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Angel Di Maria | £59.7M fee agreed I Maybe tomorrow...or the day after...
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You're right. I shouldnt have bothered. He is here just to WUM.
Any news on the instagram front? I kinda expect Di Maria's wife to break the news before any other outlet. Her activities on Instagram suggest she probably can't wait to confirm the move.
Im hoping something like this will happen:
Rojo --> Di Maria --> Khedira --> Reus --> Hummels.
So you're forgetting that we've already signed Rojo in the last week?
He said additions to the title winning team. So that includes Zaha. Either way, I don't think it dramatically alters the fact that we've spent a lot and still lack a lot in centre mid. That said, hopefully the next week will rectify that somewhat.
Seeing as he didn't play Friday, he's probably playing and celebrating now.
Well I was reading RAWK and some posters were expressing their opinion that Lallana was better than di Maria.
He's forgetting that we played with Young/Valencia last season, ffs.
Carrick, Herrera and Di Maria could be a brilliantly balanced midfield worth shouting about. 2 terriers with the ability to hound opposition, carry the ball forward and create. Carrick would offer protection to the defense whilst also bringing some control.
Unfortunately I think Van Gaal will only play Di Maria in the middle in a Robben at the WC role, as striker/attacking mid only. Though I guess he'll still be doing those things I said above but with a more free role off the ball.
Im sorry are you talking about how we spend money after what your team did last year? Spent £100m on a bunch of average players except Eriksen and you barely finished above us.
No fecking way
. Their idiocy knows no boundsYet he never gets banned. Then again, it's probably because he comes and goes so much. Puts himself out of the spotlight.
Glaston is trolling somewhat and exaggerating but he does have bit of a point tbf.
Particularly about CM problems more than Defense as such. I think our spending has lacked a pattern since SAF left. Probably since SAF's last few years as well but he didn't spend huge money and made it work in his own way using horses for courses approach and a big squad.
I think he had a good plan for the summer he left as well and a decent idea of players he wanted to offload and positions he needed to sign for a new team. Him leaving ended up costing the club's pocket big.
Particularly about CM problems more than Defense as such. I think our spending has lacked a pattern since SAF left. Probably since SAF's last few years as well but he didn't spend huge money and made it work in his own way using horses for courses approach and a big squad.
I think he had a good plan for the summer he left as well and a decent idea of players he wanted to offload and positions he needed to sign for a new team. Him leaving ended up costing the club's pocket big.
Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
The idea that Di Maria will solve an important part of your CM problem is fanciful to say the least. And it's all very well saying (re. your defence and CM) that you can "look at it (further) in the winter or next summer", but by then it could be too late since you might be facing a 2nd season with no CL football ... which I gather would have consequences for your sponsorship income apart from anything else.
I think he's way overpriced tbh. We are desperate and Madrid know it.Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
Why do you have to worry about sell on value? What if he finishes his career here? He can still become a legend. I don't give a shit about the money the club spends as long as its on the right player. If we were to spend £30m on De Jong, would I be happy? Abso-fecking-lutely NOT! You have to have value when you spend money. Di Maria is definitely in the top 10-15 players in the world and to spend £55m on him seems about right. He is a world class player and we could do with one right now.Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in Feburary, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
It's definitely overpaying for him easily whichever way you look at it AFAIC. ( Transfer Muppets won't have much of it right now though.)Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
When was the last time we care about player's resale value?
Di maria was world class playing in CM last year.
No. United have plenty of money. Di Maria makes us a much better team. End of.Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
When have we ever been a club to buy a player with sell-on-value in mind? We buy players and use them (bar a few) until we no longer need them.Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
Also his age means that he is reaching his peak and will have an instant impact on the team. Certain players also peak at different ages and age itself is merely a number. Look at Robben or Pirlo - still dominating games in their thirties.
Age is definitely not a reason not to go for Di Maria.
We're getting a player at his peak, and better pay the premium now rather than risk losing out on a top winger which we really need. Who else is out there that is of a similar level and available? Sanchez just moved and Reus may end up being available soon but who says he will come to us or we are even in a position to be a serious consideration for him. It's a good move for us.Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
Almost certainly. That doesn't mean he's wrong though.
Di Maria would obviously be a great player to have around, and would be the only player in the squad to possess both lightening pace and exceptional quality - unquestionably a significant addition. He is not a cure-all though, and the defence and midfield are still something of a shambles (a point which will likely be highlighted tomorrow when a team containing an attacking triumvirate of Mata, Rooney and RvP gets completely bossed in midfield by Lee fecking Cattermole).
Ronaldo was only two years younger when Madrid signed him from us for £80m. Our main goal is to get back to where we belong as soon as possible and who knows, in 5 years Januzaj could be as good, if not better than Di Maria. Basically, sell on value doesn't matter when you're signing a superstar that's going to drastically improve your chances on the pitch for 5+ years. You certainly wouldn't be complaining if he helped us win another league and CL title, would you? Madrid wouldn't have won it without him last season IMO.Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
5 years is plenty service for that fe.. IMHO, if he contributes, in that period, to us winning only one or two major trophies it would have been worth it!Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
Someone has to tell Glaston that we have adressed our problems by buying Shaw, Rojo, Herrera, our lack of good wingers was also a problem and that's also being worked on.
To be honest we haven't addressed our problem in midfield yet. But that could change in the next week.
Thanks you lot guys for giving me another perspective. We will make £80-100m every year to potentially spend on players, we can buy new world class players and its our money (no, it's not mine. We will still not be effected by FFP.
I think everyone is aware and has stated that opinion. It's not like Glaston was challenging a poster that stated that, he just dropped a pointless post out of nowhere and is getting the reaction he wants.
It is £210m (if Di Maria costs £60m) on additions to the title winning squad. You've left out Zaha, omitted the £5m for Nani's wages that you'll still be paying despite losing him as a squad option (making Rojo's fee effectively £21m) and left out bits and pieces concerning Varela and others.
We needed a CM, maybe two but Herrera is a huge step forward from our midfield last season. When everyone is fit, I dont think the CM position is a huge problem anymore like it was.
He is in the prime of his career, and he will come in and make an immediate impact, which is what we need. He will give us several good seasons if he maintains his current level. He was arguably Real Madrid's most consistent player last season, and was the man of the match in the Champions League final. He's an elite player, so if we want him, we have to pay what it takes.Just want to know one thing about your opinion on this:
Di Maria will turn 27 years old in February, do you care about spending £56m on a player with no sell on value? He will give us 5 years max though, which is enough until new talents come in, right?
I am torn on this. Do you care about the money? Normally if you are going to spend huge money on players, they are on young players. This is an exception.
Someone cheer me up...
Barca paid more for a slightly older Luis Suarez. Ronaldo will be 30 in February, and left here when he was 25 for a record breaking fee. Transfer fees are pure silliness at this level.
And Van Gaal thinks more deeply about football than the whole caf put together, so he will have a cogent plan for Di Maria if he is shelling out 50 million. This is not a random Fellaini-type signing.
I think sell on value is important but I think, for whatever reason, we became a little too obsessed with sell on value from 2009 to 2013. The last 4 or 5 years under Fergie contained a lot of transfers that were players with potential rather than ready made first team quality, and players that we theoretically could get our money back for eventually. I don't know if our strategy was to try and get another Ronaldo situation but there was a definite switch to the cheaper younger transfer in Fergie's last few years.
The problem is when those players fail to live up to potential they don't have much sell on value anyway. Look at Nani or Anderson. I don't think any Utd fan thinks signing Di Maria will solve all our problems. If we do sign him though, it's a massive improvement on every winger we have at the club, it's a desperately needed injection of pace into the side and it's a marquee signing that would give everyone at the club a lift.
If there are Utd fans out there moaning about this signing then I don't know what would cheer you up. You're not going to get a world class player in his prime for £15m. Those days are gone.
The problem is when those players fail to live up to potential they don't have much sell on value anyway. Look at Nani or Anderson. I don't think any Utd fan thinks signing Di Maria will solve all our problems. If we do sign him though, it's a massive improvement on every winger we have at the club, it's a desperately needed injection of pace into the side and it's a marquee signing that would give everyone at the club a lift.
If there are Utd fans out there moaning about this signing then I don't know what would cheer you up. You're not going to get a world class player in his prime for £15m. Those days are gone.
If everyone is fit? We only have Carrick and Fellaini injured. Thats it. We just have to hope Carrick comes back like was playing two years ago but thats a long shot since he is getting older.
Would anyone still go after Reus next year? Di Maria on the right, Reus on the left and Adnan as a no.10 (the position he prefers, said in a MUTV interview). That would be epic. That will provide so much pace, a complete contrast to previous seasons.
We can't pass on a £25m clause on Reus, can we?
We can't pass on a £25m clause on Reus, can we?
Hell yeah we should. RVP hasnt got much in the tank if he continues to keep getting injured. Rooney up top with Reus, Mata/Januzaj and Di Maria behind him would be absolutely lovely to see. He will be my muppet target next summer.
Ahhh the ignore feature, I suggest that you all make use of it.
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