Must. Find. Way. To. Moan.
Must. Find. Way. To. Moan.
Must. Find. Way. To. Moan.
He's a great young player, but he also stood out more last year because we had a calamitous season. I don't think he's quite ready for a full time job and I seriously doubt Van Gaal will bench Rooney to accommodate him, especially after just having named Roo captain.That's what we heard last year, before he went on to be our most effective attacking player bar Rooney. Also before our last match, when he was comfortably our best attacking player again. There's a pattern here.
Januzaj gets into these lineups because with Di Maria we'd go back to playing wingers, and Januzaj would be our second best winger. Better to leave Rooney out/let him compete for places with RVP and Mata than play him on the wing.
Poor Woodward can't win.Must. Find. Way. To. Moan.
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Here's one. http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads...tchallenge-transfer-thread-15.2010210/page-18Are there any English-speaking Real Madrid forums floating about? Would like to see their opinions on di Maria.
I don't see how it changes anything. If LvG wants a cm, we'll get a cm. Signing Di Maria isn't a case of one or the other. If we don't sign one it won't be because we're broke.I'm torn into shreds about this. On one hand, a brilliant signing that will make our attack twice as lethal. On another, it brings down our chances of signing a good centre mid from 1% down to 0.1%. And without one, we're as good as fecked even if we have Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo up front.
Agree 100%He's just been made captain...... He's not going to be dropped.
No, it'll be because a certain lovable bunch will decide we've spent our limit.I don't see how it changes anything. If LvG wants a cm, we'll get a cm. Signing Di Maria isn't a case of one or the other. If we don't sign one it won't be because we're broke.
Herrera-Carrick behind Mata is a very good midfield. We'll likely go for Strootman in January as well. Will be rough until Carrick is back but no point buying someone now for a month or 2 until Carrick is back if we're going to go for Strootman regardless, which I think we will.I'm torn into shreds about this. On one hand, a brilliant signing that will make our attack twice as lethal. On another, it brings down our chances of signing a good centre mid from 1% down to 0.1%. And without one, we're as good as fecked even if we have Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo up front.
I don't think we'll get another player of Di Maria's level if we don't sign him. He's a perfect opportunity to get a top player into the club and Vidal looks like he won't move this summer. Even if we spent the rest of our budget on Di Maria, I think he's worth the price.No, it'll be because a certain lovable bunch will decide we've spent our limit.
To be fair, fecking around with negotiations -being stingy- has cost this club a lot of great players.. Ronaldinho, Lucas Moura, Hazard, Robben from the top of my head.As good as he is 60 million for an attacking player who doesn't score goals? Truth be told we have grossly over paid for all of our players in this transfer window. Shaw, Herrera and Rojo are worth half of what we paid for them, mabe even less. Seems like Woodward has said "feck negotiations, here's the clubs credit card, take what you want and just drop the player outside carrington this morning"
Interesting. They were worse last season when Ozil was sold.
I hope so too. Realistically it's United; how often are Januzaj, Mata, Rooney, Di Maria, RvP going to be injury-free and available at the same time? 4-3-3 with pace and guile out wide and one of our top class strikers up top is generally going to be our best lineup.I really hope this means we will move to the 4-3-3 this season and that LVG sees Januzaj as the other wideman.
We have players who should be scoring goals, but aren't. Di Maria is worth that much money because of his value to the team - 17 assists in 26 games for Madrid last season. There's a reason 80% of Madrid fans do not want him to leave (BBC). He is not the final answer, but he is a large proportion of it and this transfer is fecking prime.As good as he is 60 million for an attacking player who doesn't score goals? Truth be told we have grossly over paid for all of our players in this transfer window. Shaw, Herrera and Rojo are worth half of what we paid for them, mabe even less. Seems like Woodward has said "feck negotiations, here's the clubs credit card, take what you want and just drop the player outside carrington this morning"
http://forums.bigsoccer.com/forums/real-madrid.241/Are there any English-speaking Real Madrid forums floating about? Would like to see their opinions on di Maria.
That Rooney was different to the Rooney now.People are also so willing to put Rooney in midfield but not on the wing? Like I said before he was effective when he played when Ronaldo was here. Mata was also effective on the wing he played for Chelsea. With LVG's 4-3-3 maybe the four of them will click together. Who knows?
I never said it would be Rooney that gets dropped. It could be Mata or RVP as well. I just think if LVG uses wingers, one of RVP, Rooney, or Mata will be dropped. None of these players are better than Di Maria or Adnan on the wing.He's just been made captain...... He's not going to be dropped.
Stop whiningAs good as he is 60 million for an attacking player who doesn't score goals? Truth be told we have grossly over paid for all of our players in this transfer window. Shaw, Herrera and Rojo are worth half of what we paid for them, mabe even less. Seems like Woodward has said "feck negotiations, here's the clubs credit card, take what you want and just drop the player outside carrington this morning"
You forgot Mata you fool.----De Gea---
Rafael Evans Rojo Shaw
--Carrick/new midfielder--
----Herrera---???-------
Januzaj --Rooney/RVP----Di Maria.
One step closer to a lovely team again
Exactly. I don't know how to fit Di Maria, Rooney, Mata and RVP into a team. Rooney wide left, Di Maria right, and Mata in the middle?You forgot Mata you fool.l
You really do wonder whether it's going to be Mata or RVP who is going to lose out if he comes here.
Put Mata in that midfield trio, and Di Maria as a winger and I think that's what we'd play most of the time. Januzaj and him both offering width, skill and pace. Him being versatile would probably have them all drifting and interchanging.-----------Carrick
----Herrera-----------Di Maria
-------Mata-------Januzaj
---------Rooney/RVP
Players will get injured, so pointless even thinking about our strongest 11
Woodward will make half of that transfer fee back by December, don't you (not necessarily you) worry about that. There is a reason why he has been after a marquee signing like this and it has little to do with the football. When he is done and we are off his back keep your ears to the ground and watch him roll out the sponsorship signings- his forte.I couldnt give two fecks how much we pay for him, and unless your second name is Glazer, I'm not sure why anyone else cares either, we have as much real understanding of the budgetary workings of the United group as we do of string theory, so no one outside the CEO and finance people really know how much money we have for players. Given they are the ones writing the cheques, just let them get on with it.
I want us back to our best, flamboyant attacking players and exciting youngsters playing football that is great to watch. This is one step back to that, bring it on.
Van PersieExactly. I don't know how to fit Di Maria, Rooney, Mata and RVP into a team. Rooney wide left, Di Maria right, and Mata in the middle?
Probably more didn't want Ozil to leave. He was the one who made Ronaldo better apparently and their Crown Jewel. They even chanted at Bale's presentation -We have players who should be scoring goals, but aren't. Di Maria is worth that much money because of his value to the team - 17 assists in 26 games for Madrid last season. There's a reason 80% of Madrid fans do not want him to leave (BBC). He is not the final answer, but he is a large proportion of it and this transfer is fecking prime.
The whole point of the 3-5-2 was so we could play Mata, RVP and Rooney at the same time and not have the headache of who to drop despite probably being far more suited to 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. We're kinda back to square one with one player probably being unhappy or not as effective. I'm guessing maybe Mata in wider role.Exactly. I don't know how to fit Di Maria, Rooney, Mata and RVP into a team. Rooney wide left, Di Maria right, and Mata in the middle?
He play wide for Spain too. As you said it doesn't matter where he plays as long as the system is right.Van Persie
Mata Rooney Di Maria
Herrera New DM
Shaw CB CB Rafael
De Gea
CBs picked based on form, Mata drifting from out wide - he did that for Chelsea and Valencia, he is capable of that as long as you don't ask him to play like a classic winger would.
433 is impossible.