He won't be a good in the Number 10 position.
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I honestly couldn't think of anything worse.
Don't think this has been posted..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...vic-romelu-lukaku-can-have-no-9-will-play-10/
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...vic-romelu-lukaku-can-have-no-9-will-play-10/
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Obviously it might not be a good idea against the top 6 sides, but against the rest let's throw both barrels at them!
Having those 2 upfront is guaranteed goals as long as the rest of the team do their jobs. If we can service them properly they'll both score shedloads. I hope we can get a proper winger for the right who can whip in a good cross.
Having those 2 upfront is guaranteed goals as long as the rest of the team do their jobs. If we can service them properly they'll both score shedloads. I hope we can get a proper winger for the right who can whip in a good cross.
Can you both expand on why you don't think Ibra will be a good 10?
I can see it working personally, he won't be shoved off the ball like Mkhitaryan all the time, can pick a pass, can flick balls on to the number 9 and play off him. I don't think a number 10 in our system necessarily needs to be a speed merchant either.
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Martial Ibra Rashford
Pogba Matic
Martial Ibra Rashford
Pogba Matic
This. There's a bit of revisionism on his contributions last season. He did slow us down at times and would often prefer to hold up the ball on counter attacks. He also had a brief stretch of games where his finishing dipped and was good for missed sitters that could have won us games.
His build up play included beautiful flicks that others could play off of. Drawback is he wouldn't exactly bust a gut to run into spaces a poacher would. The attack had to wait for Zlatan to get in place.
Admitting this doesn't mean he wasnt an overall net positive to our play
He's too static, doesn't have any of the qualities I'd look for in a no10. He'd effectively end up playing as he did last year as a striker that drops deep, does something with the ball, then slowly moves forward. If you want somebody to spot passes and open up defences then he's not the man. If you want your no10 to work hard off the ball then he's not your man. He won't take players on or orchestrate the attack.
I'd rather see Mata or Pogba there. Even the likes of Martial would be better there in the style of football I'd like to see. However, if Mourinho is looking to employ a direct, lobg ball style with physicality being the main attribute of his attack then he might go for this.
I think that Zlatan would do a better job in the number 10 role than Mkhitaryan is doing at the moment. What people are forgetting is the reason we dominated games like we did last season and creating so many chances was because of Zlatan dropping deep and linking up with Pogba and Mata. His game has never relied on speed but his technique, passing and creativity is still at a high level. He won't be bullied of the ball and he will help us impose ourselves in games more. Infact his presence alone will make teams drop just that little bit deeper and I hope to see it happen.
Can't be any worse than Micky T
The first part i agree with by default, Miki looks dreadful and i cant imagine even Rooney doing any worse in that position.
Point 2 isnt true, we didnt dominate games at all never mind due to Zlatan dropping deep, lets not forget we finished in 6th place last season.
Point 3; what are you basing this on? If he's playing as no 10 i dont think it will impact on how deep teams drop, it will be Lukaku and/or our wide players who will cause this, currently they arent which is very frustrating but thats another discussion. If employed as a no 10 he'll float between CM and CF not play on the last man and i think we'll rarely see him run past Lukaku.
I rather have Ibra in no10 than watch Mkhi lose possession all day long.
And it's repeated this year too...
Not to mention he scored out of nothing sometimes.
I honestly think he will do well. Is he a natural no10? Well, it depends on what system we play and how we are set up. Everyone’s ideal no.10 is different. What matters is how the manager have a skilled and quality player set up and the team set up with that quality player as a puzzle piece.
My prediction is, he’ll do well in some games and not be as effective in others. Fans here will praise him like a god and then dog him like dirt.
One other thing to keep in mind is that he might need some time to readjust after coming back from such a long layoff and a severe injury like he had.
My prediction is, he’ll do well in some games and not be as effective in others. Fans here will praise him like a god and then dog him like dirt.
One other thing to keep in mind is that he might need some time to readjust after coming back from such a long layoff and a severe injury like he had.
True. How do you quantify things like that when there was no chance to begin with but scored out of nothing?
IMO Ibra has a better final ball and ball retention than both Mata and Mkhi, the main thing Mkhi has over Ibra is speed and I would say that both Mata and Mkhi have more work rate. There were many times last season where Zlatan would play as our no.10 and leave a space up top because we had no recognized no.10.
Ibra will also be a massive upgrade on Fellaini; he does everything fellaini can and way more on the ball.
Ibra will also be a massive upgrade on Fellaini; he does everything fellaini can and way more on the ball.
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Want to see him on the pitch again
Wow, somehow missed this. Zlatan, Pogba and Rojo back in one shabang? Can’t fecking wait.
I can only imagine what zlatans thread would have looked like if he went 7 pl games without scoring, nore creating chances and barely getting to the ball for 90 min. Im sure most ppl here would be saying that he is still in form and superb he just needs better service...
Zlatan if has not been set back by the injury will be invaluable to this team. Lukaku is the one who will benefit the most of his return imo.
Zlatan if has not been set back by the injury will be invaluable to this team. Lukaku is the one who will benefit the most of his return imo.
He might not be the no.10 that United have been searching for, but if his inclusion would play Miki at his "best" position at the right and be at end of things whether it is to provide the final ball/assists or goals, I am into that idea.
Assuming that he will back to normal after the long layoff, he is much better than Miki at holding up the ball and play.
Miki can start from the right and play at his best position as per his best season at BD. He would be at the end of things be it to provide assists or goals instead being the one conducting the play.
Assuming that he will back to normal after the long layoff, he is much better than Miki at holding up the ball and play.
Better ball retention and hold the ball up much better. Assuming Ibra will back to his normal self after being out for a long time.
Miki can start from the right and play at his best position as per his best season at BD. He would be at the end of things be it to provide assists or goals instead being the one conducting the play.
7 months it was being out then. Is it a quick recovery or overrated thing to say just because it's Zlatan?
It's very quick afaik. It often takes a year to fully recover from an injury like that.
On a free, he's fixed his knee
Still cost us fecking 0.
6ft5......
Still cost us fecking 0.
6ft5......
I am really excited about having Zlatan back but my mind keeps going back to Falcao who joined us after a long term injury and was only a shadow of a player he once was.
Even if Zlatan comes back a shadow of his past standards he'll still be much better than Radamel "Bambi on ice" Falcao.
Yeah, carried us to a 6th place finish. Doing a Cantona is about turning a team in 5th place into champions, nothing that Ibra has been involved in. He himself contributed to missed chances.
I don't know how him playing the 10 would work tactically, as he doesn't have the work rate to be running around pressing like Mikhi does without the ball. He shouldn't even be expected to do that though, considering his size, weight and age. This would be like loosing a midfielder, which maybe doesn't matter as much though, when we're expected to dominate possession.
If Mourinho is looking to play him with Lukaku regularly it will probably be in a formation with two strikers(in some cases). Even then he would still be dropping deep as usual, looking to provide for others, with Lukaku further forward. Only difference to having him at 10 would be that you need to have someone to compensate for his lack of involvement when we defend.
It's easy to say that we should play all of Lukaku,Zlatan, Rashford and Martial against teams outside of top 6, but I feel there aren't too many teams that should be underestimated in this league. I would still expect only one of Rashford and Martial to start most of the games. I think keeping a sensible balance is important.
If Mourinho is looking to play him with Lukaku regularly it will probably be in a formation with two strikers(in some cases). Even then he would still be dropping deep as usual, looking to provide for others, with Lukaku further forward. Only difference to having him at 10 would be that you need to have someone to compensate for his lack of involvement when we defend.
It's easy to say that we should play all of Lukaku,Zlatan, Rashford and Martial against teams outside of top 6, but I feel there aren't too many teams that should be underestimated in this league. I would still expect only one of Rashford and Martial to start most of the games. I think keeping a sensible balance is important.
I'm still gutted he didn't take #7
On the bench today. Will definitely get minutes I'd imagine.
So what do we expect from him realistically?
So what do we expect from him realistically?
Minimum of a goal.
Back from an ACL injury at age 36 within 7 months, what an absolute machine
We want Zlatan!
Here he comes
Return of the King.
Loved the Lion yawn as he came on
The 10 makes him look even more imposing
Some lovely touches.
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