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No they weren’t, they are a good team. If they were over rated af then Sweden would have won by 4

No. People were saying Japan would beat USA 3-0. And USA dominated Sweden pretty much for the majority of that game.

The same people assumed Japan would steamroll Sweden or at least win.

Instead Japan were badly outplayed and could have lost this game 3-0 or 4-0, it would have been more telling from what transpired on the pitch than 2-1 which was flattering for Japan.

In the 1st half it looked like girls vs women out there.

So on the basis of that Japan accomplished nothing on the big scene when they faced a quality team in elimination games, hence why I label them overrated.
 
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No. People were saying Japan would beat USA 3-0. And USA dominated Sweden pretty much for the majority of that game.

The same people assumed Japan would steamroll Sweden or at least win.

Instead Japan were badly outplayed and could have lost this game 3-0 or 4-0, it would have been more telling from what transpired on the pitch than 2-1 which was flattering for Japan.

In the 1st half it looked like girls vs women out there.

So on the basis of that Japan accomplished nothing on the big scene when they faced a quality team in elimination games, hence why I label them overrated.

I dont recall anyone saying Japan would beat the USA 3-0, nobody I know of assumed Japan would steamroll Sweden.

What are you smoking?

1 missed penalty in the second half, a free kick that was of the crossbar and post, a flurry of late chances, 2 really good saves from the Swedish keeper, all in that last 25 minutes. Japan were outplayed but saying they were badly out played is just hyperbolic nonsense.
 
I dont recall anyone saying Japan would beat the USA 3-0, nobody I know of assumed Japan would steamroll Sweden.

What are you smoking?

1 missed penalty in the second half, a free kick that was of the crossbar and post, a flurry of late chances, 2 really good saves from the Swedish keeper, all in that last 25 minutes. Japan were outplayed but saying they were badly out played is just hyperbolic nonsense.

Just read this thread during the USA-SWEDEN game. People were writing that Japan, Spain, England and France would beat the sh1t out of USA. Which means that they would also own Sweden who were dominated in large by USA but managed to sneak through on penalties.

It was 8-0 attempt in the 1st half for SWE, should have been 2-0 or 3-0 at halftime. Game should have been over at half time.

Japan had their 1st attempt on goal in minute 63. Then got some late life after a soft AF penalty when Sweden dropped back to defend their lead, which is always stupid.

When it was 0-0 Japan showed zero offensive threat or intent to attack.

Overall Japan was outplayed and outclassed in this game.
 
No. People were saying Japan would beat USA 3-0. And USA dominated Sweden pretty much for the majority of that game.

The same people assumed Japan would steamroll Sweden or at least win.

Instead Japan were badly outplayed and could have lost this game 3-0 or 4-0, it would have been more telling from what transpired on the pitch than 2-1 which was flattering for Japan.

In the 1st half it looked like girls vs women out there.

So on the basis of that Japan accomplished nothing on the big scene when they faced a quality team in elimination games, hence why I label them overrated.

Flattering for Japan?

They missed a pen and hit the crossbar

Personally I don't think the Swedish pen should be handball either but the rules are daft nowadays

Sweden deserved the lead in first half though, good game in general
 
Just read this thread during the USA-SWEDEN game. People were writing that Japan, Spain, England and France would beat the sh1t out of USA. Which means that they would also own Sweden who were dominated in large by USA but managed to sneak through on penalties.

Well, it was 8-0 attempt in the 1st half, should have been 2-0 or 3-0 at halftime. Game should have been dead at half time.

Japan had their 1st attempt on goal in minute 63. Then got some late life after a soft AF penalty when Sweden dropped back to defend their lead.

When it was 0-0 Japan showed zero offensive threat or intent to attack.
Well I know not to take you seriously.
Hyperbolic nonsense
 
Well I know not to take you seriously.
Hyperbolic nonsense

Well, you could not refute any of it, so you were out of arguments and resorted to nothing.

Anytime a team is beaten 0-8 in attempts and could be down 3-0 by halftime and does not have a shoot on goal until minute 63, I would say they were outperformed. Just because sweden dropped back a bit at the end does not mean it was not a dominant performance.

If you think Japan was not beaten soundly today you are pretty alone at least from what I can see on facebook womens soccer groups.

Not sure why you cant have a discussion without just slating the other poster either.

Its why its a forum, people can have opinions, if you just declare every other opinion than your own nonsense, then not sure why you bother to engage with anyone else in first place.

I do not agree with your opinion whatsoever, but I would never just call it nonsense.
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Maybe the people who thought Japan, Spain, England and France would trash USA was using hyperbole, I dont know, I just took what they said at face value.
 
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Well I know not to take you seriously.
Hyperbolic nonsense
Same sentiment.

His take about Sweden is ridiculous; it's not like they had many ideas in building up attacks outside of playing Mourinho's "hoof the ball to Fellaini" during the entire game. As for the USWNT, they have been there for the taking ever since their draw against the Netherlands and especially with their goalscoring ability going dry after Vietnam.

What I can blame Japan is that the coach chose his tactics poorly by treating Sweden like Spain by conceding possession. If the Japanese coach had a brain, he would have asked the Japanese players to storm the Swedes from the very start. A couple of players had no business starting this one unless there were some individuals on the bench who were not fully fit today.

Anyway, I'm now rooting for Spain to comeout on top in this half of the playoff tree. It's more than time for the remaining presence of alehouse football to get the boot out of the women's game.

edit: I finally saw the penalty incident in the Spain vs. Netherlands game. The VAR chickened out on that one because it was penalty and red card all day long.
 
Same sentiment.

His take about Sweden is ridiculous; it's not like they had many ideas in building up attacks outside of playing Mourinho's "hoof the ball to Fellaini" during the entire game. As for the USWNT, they have been there for the taking ever since their draw against the Netherlands and especially with their goalscoring ability going dry after Vietnam.

What I can blame Japan is that the coach chose his tactics poorly by treating Sweden like Spain by conceding possession. If the Japanese coach had a brain, he would have asked the Japanese players to storm the Swedes from the very start. A couple of players had no business starting this one unless there were some individuals on the bench who were not fully fit today.

My take was that Sweden outperfomed Japan on the pitch today by ALOT!

None of what you wrote changes the fact that Sweden played Japan off the pitch , that was my take, and neither of you have come close to refuting it in any sense.

I also thought it was odd that Japan just sunk deep in the 1st half with no intention off attacking other than counters = the exact opposite of what team USA did to dominate sweden.

I´ve seen some excuses like that Sweden are too strong, or play too direct for Japan, or that Japan had the wrong tactics etc - which I dont debate.

Still does not change the fact that Japan was outplayed badly, so I dont why people are so mad at me for declaring that.
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If you dont like the way sweden plays football, well then thats a completely different topic.

If you like to safeguard womens football from bad style of football, you should have rooted against Japan today as they showed no threat of going forward at all, which was the reason why the game was pretty boring until the last 25 minutes when they finally moved forward while sweden dropped back to protect their lead.
 
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Same sentiment.

His take about Sweden is ridiculous; it's not like they had many ideas in building up attacks outside of playing Mourinho's "hoof the ball to Fellaini" during the entire game. As for the USWNT, they have been there for the taking ever since their draw against the Netherlands and especially with their goalscoring ability going dry after Vietnam.

What I can blame Japan is that the coach chose his tactics poorly by treating Sweden like Spain by conceding possession. If the Japanese coach had a brain, he would have asked the Japanese players to storm the Swedes from the very start. A couple of players had no business starting this one unless there were some individuals on the bench who were not fully fit today.

Anyway, I'm now rooting for Spain to comeout on top in this half of the playoff tree. It's more than time for the remaining presence of alehouse football to get the boot out of the women's game.

edit: I finally saw the penalty incident in the Spain vs. Netherlands game. The VAR chickened out on that one because it was penalty and red card all day long.
Yikes, if you think Sweden just hoofed the ball all game i don´t think you watched the correct game?
 
Yikes, if you think Sweden just hoofed the ball all game i don´t think you watched the correct game?

Indeed. I have honestly no idea where that notion came from in this game. I can see that argument being used against sweden in other games or historically when sweden has played deep and been outplayed, like for example VS USA in the 16th finals. And for sure when you have Blackstenius you will send her some long balls. But if you re-watch the first 30 minutes, it was actually pretty much all small passing plays that lead to swedens dominance as the game was played in Japans half. Which was also highlighted by experts in the studio.

What is it? 3 or 4 people that have entered the thread to complain about swedens way of playing football today? And yet none of them were concerned with Japan sitting in their own half doing nothing, which in my opinion is the least attractive for watchers. Sweden was rightly bashed for doing nothing Vs USA and parking the bus, but Japan apparently has a different set of standards.

If you look at players like Kaneryd, Asllani, Jonna Andersson, do they resort to hoofing the ball? No and they dont do it at their club teams either.

For the 2 penalties, I think neither should have been given and it was a shame for the game on the 1st one that lead to 2-0 as it killed much of the nerve in the game.
 
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Chelseas upcoming starlet Maika Hamano being consoled by teammate Jonna Andersson.

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Japan may have got the game plan wrong expecting to counter. I feared Japan would be a good technical team but lightweight if they come up against a good all round team and not be effective. They have also switched game plans from heavy counter to passing previously and got into the game late on today.

Wil be interesting if the semi final is all European within a small radius of France England Sweden and Spain. Looking at the leagues I think we can all see western Europe becoming really strong and would take the US. It's been more competitive though, Aus and Col could still go through and we've seen good games from teams around the world.
 
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Yes, at Barça. In the starting team there were 6 Barcelona players and 3 Madrid players. Even Madrid's goalkeeper, Misa Rodríguez, well known to the fans, lost her place after the match against Japan.
I also like Hermoso a lot,she already did very well in the previous World Cup.

Spain do have some talented players. It's funny; after the Japan game I started to think Spain's style—as pretty and intricate as it is—wouldn't bring success, and all any decent team had to do was be defensively disciplined, lie in wait, and counterattack. But watching them against the Netherlands made me rethink that. They dominated a very good Dutch team, and should have won by a bigger margin.
 
Sam Kerr still on the bench for Australia. France team lineup as expected. No goals so far but France looking smoother at the start.
 
Poor game so far. Lots of mistakes and bad touches.
Yep, France have had most of the ball but are making so many errors and poor passes that it's not translating into any kind of control. Australians looking more confident going forward as the match goes on.

26 minutes, no goals
 
Best chance of the game for Australia. What a block on the line.
 
Defensive fumbling by France but a great goalline clearance saves them.
 
France living very dangerously now. Especially with Sam Kerr on for Australia.
 
Kinda comical that we keep hearing Hervé Renard yelling and yet the TV people zoom the camera on the Australian coach. :lol: