Would You Sell De Gea to Fund 2 Shiny New Attackers?

groovyalbert

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If we still go for Griezmann yet, as reported widely today, prioritize a number 9 ahead of him we could find ourselves having to fork out close to £200m on just two players.

Seeing as our squad clearly needs reinforcements elsewhere (defence, central midfield most obviously), despite our huge transfer budget we may have to sell big in order to complete our transfer inbound dealings. The easiest way to bring in big money quickly would be to sell De Gea to Real.

With this being the case, I'm curious what the consensus of the Caf would be regarding selling De Gea in order to bring in 2 potentially world class attackers in Griezmann and, for the sake of argument, Lukaku?

Would selling De Gea mean that we have to replace him straight away? Would our weakened defensive unit be offset positively by a significantly strengthened attacking one?

I'm a bit split on this.
 
We don't need the money for De Gea. We have many many monies to spare.
 
We need to have a top class goalkeeper. No matter how good your defense is a top quality goalkeeper wins you games as well. I'm not averse to this idea, however it would probably cost us close to what we sell big dave for to replace him with a keeper of adequate quality.

So my answer to this would be no.
 
I'm sure we won't spend 200m on 2 forwards. Won't even be 150m.

There. 50m saved. No need to sell de gea.

He'll go if he wants to go and if the price is right. Or if we get a crazy offer for him. Can't see Madrid bidding crazy unless they have talked to de gea. So the second point is irrelevant.

We won't be trying to offload him to raise money.
 
Once you spend a tonne on a new keeper how much will be left for these 2 strikers?
 
Ordinarily I'd say yes. But this is our 3x POTY goalkeeper. You'll never know when we're sinking again and need him to dig us out of another hole.
 
I swear this place is obsessed with these weird 'either or' threads. Why the feck can't we have them all?
 
It shouldn't be either or. We should be able to get all three.
 
Ever since someone mentioned it on here I have never looked at de gea the same.

I'd say as far as I can remember he is probably the best reflex keeper of all time! However, alot of that is simply not needed if he managed to come off his line and catch balls and guard his box.

I would never sell him though but if he adamant about leaving then so be it.
 
Obviously no. Why would we force out our only world class player who wants to stay? This place is nuts.
 
Akash said:
Obviously no. Why would we force out our only world class player who wants to stay? This place is nuts.
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If it came down to having to sell De Gea in order to get Griezmann, I guess you could look at it as choosing between having a world class goalkeeper or a world class attacker. Given our massive lack of goals last season and the fact that our defence looked generally very strong, I think there's the potential for a situation where selling De Gea could make sense.

Obviously not ideal and I in no way want to see him go, but with a top class manager renowned for being able to sort out defences above all else at the helm in Jose, I think we would benefit more from having a world class attacker than goalkeeper right now.
 
F**k off. Unless we unearth an unknown gem his replacement will also cost a bomb. On top of that our best defensive partnership has yet to be tested at the highest level. DDG will come in handy when facing top attackers next season in CL.
 
Depends on the circumstances. I don't think united need to sell De Gea to build a PL-winning side

But if you can sign Neymar by selling De Gea, then by all means you should sell De Gea
 
Unless those two are Neymar and Griezmann, and it's 100% covered by the sale so we can make up of the loss of De Gea with a decent gk and upgrades in our defense.
Realistic? No. But so is me feeling fine with losing De Gea.
 
Sell DDG for Isco + £30m

clear out Rooney (and maybay get some cash for him) and Zlatan of the wage list

Go donkshit crazy and break all records for Mbappé (£130m should do it)

Get Fabinho, Perisic and VVD to complete the summer

--------------Romero-----------------
-----Bailly-----VVD----Rojo------
Valencia---Fabinho--Pogba-----Perisic
-----------------Isco-------------------
---------Rashford--Mbappé----------

---------------Pereira------------------
------Tuanzebe--Smalling--Blind------
Young----Herrera---Pereira-----Lingard
---------------Mkhitaryan---------------
------------Mata----Martial--------------

Become champions and playing steaming hot sexy like football
 
groovyalbert said:
If it came down to having to sell De Gea in order to get Griezmann, I guess you could look at it as choosing between having a world class goalkeeper or a world class attacker. Given our massive lack of goals last season and the fact that our defence looked generally very strong, I think there's the potential for a situation where selling De Gea could make sense.

Obviously not ideal and I in no way want to see him go, but with a top class manager renowned for being able to sort out defences above all else at the helm in Jose, I think we would benefit more from having a world class attacker than goalkeeper right now.
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It's fairly simple. If De Gea wants to stay (which it appears he does) then we don't sell him regardless of how much anyone offers for him.
 
Too many hypothetical questions nowadays. We're loaded.
 
Honestly, if we're not going to get Griezmann then we should buy a new striker for £70m or so and then buy Mahrez and Douglas Costa to add to the attack.
 
The red panther said:
--------------Romero-----------------
-----Bailly-----VVD----Rojo------
Valencia---Fabinho--Pogba-----Perisic
-----------------Isco-------------------
---------Rashford--Mbappé----------

Become champions and playing steaming hot sexy like football
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That line up only has one consistent goalscorer (Mbappe) and we've seen how that went this year (Zlatan).
 
An Irish Red said:
That line up only has one consistent goalscorer (Mbappe) and we've seen how that went this year (Zlatan).
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Unlike with Zlatan that team has pace and alot of players with creativity and dribbling technique that would also find eachother quite well and play some sexy football that most defences in the league wouldn't be able to stop.

Most of the line ups you read on here don't include more than 1 consistent goalgetter. For one I think Rashford can grow into that role aswell.
 
No. Apart from anything else, we don't need more money than we already have, to build a decent side. Also, 60-70m is not going to buy us two (or even one) top class #9/wide forward.
 
Nononono. Having World class players in the club, will attract more star players. If he don't hand in a transfer request, keep him.
Selling one of our two world class players do not show ambitions. Like the big teams in Europe we should not be a selling club.
 
Wouldn't hesitate. How De Gea doesn't get any stick for trying to leave us before when Rooney did I don't know. But besides that the difference between De Gea and Romero this last season is marginal and Jose has said as much. We would get peak money for him now. It would be great leverage i.e. small weakening defensively for great strengthening offensively. Of course it all depends on our budget and how badly ripped off we get for each target. Personally, I think we need more than 4 players in so need to fund that with some out.
 
If I had to choose between buying two new attacking and selling De Gea or bringing in only one attacking player and keeping De Gea, I would have chosen the latter. De Gea is obviously one of the best goalkeepers in the world, and replacing him with Romero would leave us weaker in defense. But looking back at the past season, I don't think that playing Romero instead of De Gea in the league would have made a big difference in terms of our total points. If we had a player like Griezmann or Alexis Sanchez in our attack, I think we would have made top 4 rather easily.

However, I don't see any reason to let De Gea go unless he forces his way out and we get a ridiculous amount of money from Real. We should be able to make two world class signings in attack (for instance Lukaku and Griezmann) and go for cheaper options in defense and midfield (Michael Keane and Matic) without ruining the clubs economy. If we sell a couple of players (Jones, Januzaj, Rooney) and take the transfer fees from Memphis and Schneiderlin into account, we would have used about the same amount of money that we used last summer.
 
Of course, I would prefer to strengthen the team while keeping De Gea. Assuming, however, that the transfer kitty isn't limitless, selling De Gea and reinvesting the proceeds may make us a better team. If the current transfer budget only allows for a stud #9, a winger of good (but not world class) quality, a central defensive midfielder and a centre back, we should be better next season than this. However, if selling De Gea would effectively allow us to do all of that and add Greizmann, then for me it's a no-brainer. De Gea could go. We'd be much better in attack and stronger in defence, and presumably be much less reliant on our keeper. Romero could do the job for at least one season. Of course, we'd likely need to bring in another keeper as well, but assuming we're not talking about a world class keeper, that shouldn't be cost prohibitive. If Romero isn't up to the task, we could replace him next summer.
 
The red panther said:
Sell DDG for Isco + £30m

clear out Rooney (and maybay get some cash for him) and Zlatan of the wage list

Go donkshit crazy and break all records for Mbappé (£130m should do it)

Get Fabinho, Perisic and VVD to complete the summer

--------------Romero-----------------
-----Bailly-----VVD----Rojo------
Valencia---Fabinho--Pogba-----Perisic
-----------------Isco-------------------
---------Rashford--Mbappé----------

---------------Pereira------------------
------Tuanzebe--Smalling--Blind------
Young----Herrera---Pereira-----Lingard
---------------Mkhitaryan---------------
------------Mata----Martial--------------

Become champions and playing steaming hot sexy like football
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Luckily you're not the manager, that team will get murder in PL, also Mbappe not worth that kind of money,yet.
 
OohAahMartial said:
Wouldn't hesitate. How De Gea doesn't get any stick for trying to leave us before when Rooney did I don't know. But besides that the difference between De Gea and Romero this last season is marginal and Jose has said as much. We would get peak money for him now. It would be great leverage i.e. small weakening defensively for great strengthening offensively. Of course it all depends on our budget and how badly ripped off we get for each target. Personally, I think we need more than 4 players in so need to fund that with some out.
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1. Because Rooney did this at a time when he was playing in a team that was consistently winning the league and getting to Champions League finals, De Gea has been dragging us up the table the last 4 season whilst playing in a country away from his home/family/loved ones in a side that - until this season - didn't match his quality. Also, no evidence he has ever tried to leave - quite the opposite.

2. This is what made me start this thread. I would always choose having a stronger attack over defence. And if selling De Gea means we end up with the best possible attack next season, then that's a real consideration worth taking.
 
Skills said:
Ordinarily I'd say yes. But this is our 3x POTY goalkeeper. You'll never know when we're sinking again and need him to dig us out of another hole.
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I look at it a bit more positively: after eating shit for years I would like him to be part of future success.

I agreed Romero earned his start in the EL Final but felt somewhat sorry for DDG.
 
If those two forwards are Mbappe and Griezmann then yeah.

Only one problem - we need to sell De Gea at around 200m EUR.
 
No, we would not be getting any of the top 3 attackers in the world regardless of how much money we get from selling one of top 3 keepers in the world.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
No. We are not really a club that needs to sell to buy.
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I get we are loaded but when it comes to the players we need going forward and the prices being quoted, I'm not sure if there's a single club in the world who could afford to fork out all that without offloading.
 
Last I checked this wasn't an Everton or Spurs forum. We don't need to sell our better players to balance the books. The only reason he will be sold is if he wants to leave.
 
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