Would a relegated United be the biggest shock in English football?

soapythecat

Full Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2006
Messages
3,976
Location
Glasgow resident these days.
Don’t care how much people protest, we are in a relegation fight this season. On current projection and the way we play, could this United team getting relegated be the biggest shock in English football?

No team is too big to go down and if you aren’t genuinely concerned about us then you aren’t watching us this season.
 
Nah not relegation. That's too far

But we've past the shocking horror period even finishing 8th don't get the manager sacked and 5-6th is the par for United these days

We're so bad it's not even a shock anymore these days

But if god forbid we're relegated then yes it's a fecking bottling job of the history
 
We won't get relegated.

With that being said - yes. If relegation were to happen, it would be by far the biggest shock in English football.
 
Obviously it will be.

Will we? Obviously not. We are a solid mid table team. Still capable of giving an odd scare to any top team.
 
1968-69 Finished 11th
1969-70 Finished 8th
1970-71 Finished 8th
1971-72 Finished 8th
1772-73 Finished 18th
1973-74 Finished 21st Relegated

We had just gone through a long run of managers, we had become a cup team, the clubs former matriarch was still at the club

History has a habit of repeating itself
 
Why is it not a shock if we get relegated? I see a team that can’t score and can’t defend. We’re only beaten the lower level sides in the Premier League so far.

Keep Ten Hag and it’s a relegation battle imo. Incompetent INEOS look worse than the Glazers so far. None of decisions have gone well so far, including transfers.
 
It would be, yes.

Can never really see it happening.

I remember having a similar panic a few seasons back when we were in a slump before I realised that's all it was. As bad as we are, and as mismanaged as we are the financial gap we have over certain clubs is so huge that 17 of them can't finish above us. Will always bumble our way to enough points. The same applies to a few of the other big clubs in this modern era of football.

At one time when there was a bit more parity it wouldn't have been the case. There's always been gaps but it's more pronounced now compared to the past. Maybe if we had a big financial crash but not as things are now.
 
This season seems to be developing like 2023/24 did for York City. Under Neal Ardley they appeared to be plummeting down to National League North, but he was replaced just in time by Adam Hinshelwood and everything turned about dramatically. Now they are flying and looking good for promotion to League Two. The question then, is this: can Manchester United find their Adam Hinshelwood?
 
Very unlikely within the near future (and indeed it would be a greater shock than Leicester winning the league) but I don't think it is entirely impossible. All you need is us languishing in the lower mid-table around Christmas, a particularly bad run of losses in January and February, and next thing you know we're in the dogfight.
 
Those of us who can remember 1974 said at the time that United would never be relegated. Look what happened. If history does truly repeat itself, then, to paraphrase Marx, it does so first as tragedy and then as farce. 1974 was a tragedy.
 
As fecked off as I am right now and want him sacked tonight there is no way we are getting relegated.
 
Too much quality in the squad to get relegated, but I think we will finish in bottom half of the table, which means there is a small but not non-zero chance of getting relegated.

If EtH is here next season though, I genuinely believe we will be in a relegation fight with actually a significant possibility of getting relegated.
 
Matt Varnish said:
1968-69 Finished 11th
1969-70 Finished 8th
1970-71 Finished 8th
1971-72 Finished 8th
1772-73 Finished 18th
1973-74 Finished 21st Relegated

We had just gone through a long run of managers, we had become a cup team, the clubs former matriarch was still at the club

History has a habit of repeating itself
Click to expand...
Yeah, nearly got relegated that season in 73. I blame the Boston Tea Party
 
It would amount to deliberate sabotage if Ten Hag is not sacked before relegation looks like a possibility.
 
People drama llama about being in a relgation battle every year. We're obviously not getting relegated nor are we in a relgation fight.
 
No, it's a pretty much impossible scenario so it's not even worth thinking about. It would be like Lyon or Ajax getting relegated from their league last season. Ajax ended up 5th, safe by 27 points. Lyon ended up 6th, safe by 25 points.

United have been absymal so far this season and they're still 7 points above the relegation zone. No need to be so dramatic.
 
With the way things have been going the last couple of seasons I doubt anybody would be too shocked. The trajectory is clear.
 
Nowhere near a relegation scrap, there’s at least 4, maybe 5 worse teams with a lower ceiling of improvement in them.
Pure hyperbole.
But yes, it would be a big shock if they ever did get relegated.
 
Matt Varnish said:
1968-69 Finished 11th
1969-70 Finished 8th
1970-71 Finished 8th
1971-72 Finished 8th
1772-73 Finished 18th
1973-74 Finished 21st Relegated

We had just gone through a long run of managers, we had become a cup team, the clubs former matriarch was still at the club

History has a habit of repeating itself
Click to expand...
This post is indisputable evidence of other dimensions, having clearly slipped through a wormhole from an alternate reality where we played in the 18th century and where both Busby and Ferguson were women.
 
Moriarty said:
Those of us who can remember 1974 said at the time that United would never be relegated. Look what happened. If history does truly repeat itself, then, to paraphrase Marx, it does so first as tragedy and then as farce. 1974 was a tragedy.
Click to expand...
Most of us knew in December that relegation was inevitable, the season before was the warning bell and the board failed to act
 
Not anymore. I've said it before, in terms of stature, standards and culture we're closer to the likes of Palace/West Ham than we are to the real big clubs. And them getting relegated isn't a suprise.

If a manager, say got second and a trophy the season before and then had us loitering in the relegation zone the following season they'd be allowed to see out the entirety of that season. The club wouldn't act at all, and that could result in genuine relegation.
 
There’s effectively 8 pts to relegation right now. 6 pts from top 4. Nonsense thread really, even though we’re shite.
 
Can't say I'd be shocked if we were genuinely in danger of relegation, as I seen the danger signs last season and have maintained for over a year that Erik Ten Hag is a dreadful manager. What I find more shocking is the inaction of Ineos which is enabling this rapid decline to continue
 
It would be a huge shock, but even though things are bad at the moment, as others have said, there's at least 4 teams who are shocking.


I think we'd need to end the season on 30-33pts to get relegated,I don't think we're that bad!
 
Fingeredmouse said:
This post is indisputable evidence of other dimensions, having clearly slipped through a wormhole from an alternate reality where we played in the 18th century and where both Busby and Ferguson were women.
Click to expand...
This is from someone who wasn't around at the time, we had spent several seasons as a cup team, slowly slipping down the division, by the December of 73 most fans knew it would be Div 2 football, but the board and the media kept telling us is wouldn't happen, United could "buy their way out of trouble", but managers relied on the old guard, and failed.
I'm not saying it will happen, but anyone who thinks it can't is deluded, the league is littered with once great teams who though they would never be relegated, just look at the Championship, Leeds, Blackburn, QPR, Coventry, Stoke City, West Brom, Sunderland I can remember them all being in the top flight.
 
Skills said:
Not anymore. I've said it before, in terms of stature, standards and culture we're closer to the likes of Palace/West Ham than we are to the real big clubs. And them getting relegated isn't a suprise.

If a manager, say got second and a trophy the season before and then had us loitering in the relegation zone the following season they'd be allowed to see out the entirety of that season. The club wouldn't act at all, and that could result in genuine relegation.
Click to expand...
Yeah, sure. Like Palace and West Ham have won 2 trophies in 2 years, signed players like De Ligt, and have one of the biggest fan bases in the world.

The most successful English team of all time getting relegated would absolutely be a shock. Imagine the shoe was on the other foot, and it was Liverpool we were talking about. While it would be hilarious, you wouldn't have your pessimist hat on then.

We'd all quite rightly conclude that it's not going to happen
 
Yes but it's practically impossible for any big team to be relegated these days. The gap between the PL and the Championship is too big.
 
We're 7 points clear. We have nearly 3 times as many points as the team in 18th. You just want to be dramatic.
 
ROFLUTION said:
There’s effectively 8 pts to relegation right now. 6 pts from top 4. Nonsense thread really, even though we’re shite.
Click to expand...
You obviously haven't looked at our games for November and December, Chelsea, Leicester, Ipswich, Everton, Arsenal, Forest, Man City, Bournemouth, Wolves, Newcastle 30 pts up for grabs, realistically how many do you see us getting?
 
AnotherLondonManc said:
Yeah, sure. Like Palace and West Ham have won 2 trophies in 2 years, signed players like De Ligt, and have one of the biggest fan bases in the world.

The most successful English team of all time getting relegated would absolutely be a shock. Imagine the shoe was on the other foot, and it was Liverpool we were talking about. While it would be hilarious, you wouldn't have your pessimist hat on then.

We'd all quite rightly conclude that it's not going to happen
Click to expand...
In 1974, we were still the only English team to have won the European Cup, and that was when it was a straight knock-out competition.
 
I fecking hate the Glazers but at least they kept us respectable.

INEOS and Brexit fecking Jim are ten times worse.
 
If were in a relegation fight were also in a top 4 fight. Were equally as far pointswise from both.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
Can't say I'd be shocked if we were genuinely in danger of relegation, as I seen the danger signs last season and have maintained for over a year that Erik Ten Hag is a dreadful manager. What I find more shocking is the inaction of Ineos which is enabling this rapid decline to continue
Click to expand...

100%. Fans can keep blaming Erik but ultimately the board has failed to act so far. They have the power to change things and are choosing not to. It’s a complete failure.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.