Wot, no transfers? It's all happening now!

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WPMUFC said:
Say we left it till deadline day to get Sancho. Great, we get sancho. That is FIVE games into a season, then he has to quarantine for 2 weeks. SEVEN games into the season. No training, not match sharp. Likely plays from the bench for 2-3 weeks. A sancho deadline day signing is basically Sancho not starting a full game till GW 9 or GW 10. How? How can we allow this to happen?

When I say Next week / GW1 before the freak out, that's me basing it on MUFC still getting Sancho. If we are signing Brooks and nothing else, i'm starting my freak out this weekend :lol: :( and likely refusing to watch poor Ole get thrown under the bus.
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There are currently no quarantine restrictions for people travelling from Germany.
 
Can we Relax now we got Oriola . Building for the future! Obviously Ed does one deal at a time so now he can move on to Sancho or who ever is next up
 
The club only cares about achieving the minimum which is getting into the top four, we have no ambition to achieve anything higher.

We will either end up with a window like what happened under Mourinho where we signed Fred, Dalot and Grant or there will be no signings at all, only this year the excuse be because of COVID-19.
 
Womp said:
They won't respond to shite. They'll sign some inferior players on the cheap, leak some briefs about us being interested in changing the structure etc. You'll then have the top reds, who are so desperate to convince themselves we aren't washed up that it's good business, you'll have the negative nancys who will be distraught then you'll have the fans such as myself who have now become desensitized, who will let out a small giggle.

Only for us to repeat all of this again next summer. (Unless we miss out on top 4, if that's the case, expect some spending)
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Yeah, you’re probably right and I’m the same page as you.

Christ you only have to go into the Sancho thread, it’s like the jones town massacre in there, fecking tragic but I feel their pain, everyone knows that we need something.

People clinging onto the words of Raiola about projects and plans, saying Pogba wants to stay to be part of it all, then saying they are calm and there’s no rush to sign, that’s because despite the fact he’s a cnut, he’s also a smart cnut and wants to see the colour of the Glazers money before him and Pogba commit, I bet by January after we’ve signed nobody we’ll be hearing about “new challenges”

There’s so much bullshit coming out of the club you need wings to stay above it.
 
Still think Sancho will be done. Hopefully after that we manage to sell few players like Smalling, Rojo, Jones, Pereira which would give us space and funds for another signing and that would probably be a CB.
 
What's really frustrating is we're doing nothing at all. The key this summer was to offload our deadwood and to improve the first team making a few signings.

If signings aren't happening but players are being offloaded that at least gives the hope that we're expecting a few replacements.

Imagine if we start the season with all of Jones, Lingard, Mata, Pereira, Dalot and Rojo still here. A bit harsh including Mata with that lot but I honestly believed he's completely washed and has zero to offer us in the PL or CL.
 
I never expected us to spend much this summer. We've spent huge amounts the last few years, and now with Covid devastating our revenues, I can't believe the club has the ability to go spending £100m+.
 
If money is tight during these harsh economic times, then we should be doing smart deals. Not chasing 1 Marquee signing. We need some quality players who can play in multiple positions and improve the squad. We have players that we can use to smarten deals. Smalling, Lingard, Pereira, Jones, Rojo, Dalot, Mata, Fosu Mensah,

Hypothetically speaking, Villa wanted to keep Tuanzebe. He had a great season for them. Tuanzebe and Pereira go to Villa, and we sign Grealish for 30 million. Or Mata and Fosu Mensah to Ajax, and 25 million for Donny Van De Beek to come the other way. Inter Milan are interested in Smalling. Go and get the deal done, and see what we can generate. Leeds are getting Emi Buendia for 20 million. He is better than anyone on our bench, and can play on the right.

We know that transfers aren't paid in full anymore, they are paid back over 3-5 years.
 
El Jefe said:
What's really frustrating is we're doing nothing at all. The key this summer was to offload our deadwood and to improve the first team making a few signings.

If signings aren't happening but players are being offloaded that at least gives the hope that we're expecting a few replacements.

Imagine if we start the season with all of Jones, Lingard, Mata, Pereira, Dalot and Rojo still here. A bit harsh including Mata with that lot but I honestly believed he's completely washed and has zero to offer us in the PL or CL.
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None of the players rumored to be leaving were used more than a few times if at all last season. I would not be surprised if the likes of Dalot, Rojo, Pereira, Smalling, and Jones left without anyone coming in. Mata and Lingard aren’t going anywhere unless we sign someone to play in attack.
 
El Jefe said:
What's really frustrating is we're doing nothing at all. The key this summer was to offload our deadwood and to improve the first team making a few signings.

If signings aren't happening but players are being offloaded that at least gives the hope that we're expecting a few replacements.

Imagine if we start the season with all of Jones, Lingard, Mata, Pereira, Dalot and Rojo still here. A bit harsh including Mata with that lot but I honestly believed he's completely washed and has zero to offer us in the PL or CL.
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Why would anyone be in a rush to buy our deadwood? Even if anyone wanted them they'll wait until the last minute to get the best deal particularly in the current situation.
 
peridigm said:
None of the players rumored to be leaving were used more than a few times if at all last season. I would not be surprised if the likes of Dalot, Rojo, Pereira, Smalling, and Jones left without anyone coming in. Mata and Lingard aren’t going anywhere unless we sign someone to play in attack.
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And this explains why our squad is quite terrible. I didn't even include Ighalo and James who aren't good enough but I know will still be here next season. Ole was playing our squad into the ground because outside of Fred, Mctominay, Bailly and stangely enough Williams, he doesn't trust the rest of our squad options.

That's why it's so important to get rid of them.
Leftback99 said:
Why would anyone be in a rush to buy our deadwood? Even if anyone wanted them they'll wait until the last minute to get the best deal particularly in the current situation.
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Correct, no one will be in a rush to sign them but why won't we transfer list them. It doesn't seem like we're actively trying to get rid of them.

It also doesn't help when the mastermind Woodward has offered most of those players new deals in the last 12-18 months, making it more diffucult to move them on their overpriced contracts.
 
Leftback99 said:
Why would anyone be in a rush to buy our deadwood? Even if anyone wanted them they'll wait until the last minute to get the best deal particularly in the current situation.
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Maybe because the likes of Dalot, Smalling, Lingard could actually be better players than what teams have in their team.

Not being good enough for Manutd does not mean they are not good enough to play football.

Lovren went for £11m
Last season Iwobi went for £25m
 
El Jefe said:
And this explains why our squad is quite terrible. I didn't even include Ighalo and James who aren't good enough but I know will still be here next season. Ole was playing our squad into the ground because outside of Fred, Mctominay, Bailly and stangely enough Williams, he doesn't trust the rest of our squad options.

That's why it's so important to get rid of them.

Correct, no one will be in a rush to sign them but why won't we transfer list them. It doesn't seem like we're actively trying to get rid of them.

It also doesn't help when the mastermind Woodward has offered most of those players new deals in the last 12-18 months, making it more diffucult to move them on their overpriced contracts.
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I don't think there is such a think as a 'transfer list'. Their agents will know they can leave, finding a willing taker is another thing and yes their ridiculous wages are a problem.
 
I get the feeling we will just hoover up more 14 to 16 year olds and be lectured by the Glazers about them "investing in the future"

There are deals to be done out there but they will highlight how little our fringe players are worth and will show up how badly our transfers have been handled so we will sit on our hands again and drift away from 4th place.

Mediocrity is in danger of becoming the new normal it seems.
 
romufc said:
Maybe because the likes of Dalot, Smalling, Lingard could actually be better players than what teams have in their team.

Not being good enough for Manutd does not mean they are not good enough to play football.

Lovren went for £11m
Last season Iwobi went for £25m
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That's not my point. Why rush? If I'm a buyer for one of that lot I bid close to deadline day when we've got no other offers on the table.
 
Leftback99 said:
That's not my point. Why rush? If I'm a buyer for one of that lot I bid close to deadline day when we've got no other offers on the table.
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As a seller, if we havent sold Dalot, Smalling, Lingard and we have not bought a replacement, there is no way we sell them.

We are not desperate for cash in that sense.
 
El Jefe said:
And this explains why our squad is quite terrible. I didn't even include Ighalo and James who aren't good enough but I know will still be here next season. Ole was playing our squad into the ground because outside of Fred, Mctominay, Bailly and stangely enough Williams, he doesn't trust the rest of our squad options.

That's why it's so important to get rid of them.

Correct, no one will be in a rush to sign them but why won't we transfer list them. It doesn't seem like we're actively trying to get rid of them.

It also doesn't help when the mastermind Woodward has offered most of those players new deals in the last 12-18 months, making it more diffucult to move them on their overpriced contracts.
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Ed wants to extend their stay because it’s cheaper. Ole know the only way he’s going to get new players is if he flogs off the deadwood. Hence the reason he runs the starting 11 into the ground. Before we had Pogba back and Bruno signed, Pereira and Lingard got a fair amount of playing time. James also played more early in the season and when Rashford was injured. Ole has his plan. It’s up to the board and the owners to back him. If they don’t, next season will be much of the same as last. Lots of ups and downs, injuries, and false hopes. Depending on what happens with COVID, if we can manage to make top 4 this season, then we might see some real investment in the squad. The problem is we could see Pogba delay signing a new deal which further exacerbates our recruiting next summer.
 
Wheato said:
If money is tight during these harsh economic times, then we should be doing smart deals. Not chasing 1 Marquee signing. We need some quality players who can play in multiple positions and improve the squad. We have players that we can use to smarten deals. Smalling, Lingard, Pereira, Jones, Rojo, Dalot, Mata, Fosu Mensah,

Hypothetically speaking, Villa wanted to keep Tuanzebe. He had a great season for them. Tuanzebe and Pereira go to Villa, and we sign Grealish for 30 million. Or Mata and Fosu Mensah to Ajax, and 25 million for Donny Van De Beek to come the other way. Inter Milan are interested in Smalling. Go and get the deal done, and see what we can generate. Leeds are getting Emi Buendia for 20 million. He is better than anyone on our bench, and can play on the right.

We know that transfers aren't paid in full anymore, they are paid back over 3-5 years.
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Not sure how we get Grealish for 30m, the estimates from everywhere appear to be over 60m for him, and our players are barely worth anything transfer wise as noone wants to play 75k a week for Lingard/Pereira
 
romufc said:
As a seller, if we havent sold Dalot, Smalling, Lingard and we have not bought a replacement, there is no way we sell them.

We are not desperate for cash in that sense.
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We won't give them away but all are already surplus to requirements regardless of purchases. Dalot is at best 3rd choice right back, Smalling wasn't even here last season (although I would keep him), same with Rojo. Lingard could stay with no incomings similar to Pereira. And for any if I'm buying a take my chance late, it's no surprise none have gone yet.
 
Leftback99 said:
We won't give them away but all are already surplus to requirements regardless of purchases. Dalot is at best 3rd choice right back, Smalling wasn't even here last season (although I would keep him), same with Rojo. Lingard could stay with no incomings similar to Pereira. And for any if I'm buying a take my chance late, it's no surprise none have gone yet.
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It looks like we are stuck. We cannot sell players because we are not getting players in. So until we get players in, I am sure Ole cannot lose players.

This is where a plan would come in handy.
 
pocco said:
Yeah i agree, just can't see it right now. Any signing from abroad needs to be made this week or they're not going to be able to play the first game due to quarantine rules, if I'm not mistaken or getting my dates mixed up.

I think the club would want to avoid that, so if we don't see anything this next week then it's clear that things aren't going to plan.
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The quarantine depends on the country, I believe? Anyway, I think that we will get the signings in reverse order. We will sign 1-2 squad players for reasonable fees and then , if we manage to muster 40-50 million from sales, we might sign an higher profile player.

Not brimming with confidence.
 
ArjenIsM3 said:
Don't you realize this is the meltdown thread?
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People need to relax, we’ve been down this road before. It is known that United take a while to make signings; they are in a unique position where sellers treat them like the big oil clubs, but unlike the City’s and PSG’s of the world, United actually have a budget to worry about. As such, we get stuck in a difficult spot when negotiating. That being said, after the wait, we almost always bring in transfers for big money, now whether those transfers actually pan out is a different story. I’m confident we will make signings this summer, not so confident that they will be for the right players.
 
Valencia's Left Foot said:
People need to relax, we’ve been down this road before. It is known that United take a while to make signings; they are in a unique position where sellers treat them like the big oil clubs, but unlike the City’s and PSG’s of the world, United actually have a budget to worry about. As such, we get stuck in a difficult spot when negotiating. That being said, after the wait, we almost always bring in transfers for big money, now whether those transfers actually pan out is a different story. I’m confident we will make signings this summer, not so confident that they will be for the right players.
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right players need to be Sancho, Grealish & CB, however would pass on Jack if we actually believed we could get Thiago
 
Is this our most boring transfer window ever so far?

Even in the worst ones, we are usually at least linked to a few players at once.
 
buchansleftleg said:
I get the feeling we will just hoover up more 14 to 16 year olds and be lectured by the Glazers about them "investing in the future"

There are deals to be done out there but they will highlight how little our fringe players are worth and will show up how badly our transfers have been handled so we will sit on our hands again and drift away from 4th place.

Mediocrity is in danger of becoming the new normal it seems.
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I don't feel its a bad strategy in our current predicament.

We are being taken the mickey out of in the transfer market. Everytime we go in for a player, we get a 100% "tax" on the price tag because we're Manchester United.

I'd rather we go about it the way Bayern do. Just quietly tap up these players and get them to run down their contracts until either the selling club is forced to sell on the cheap or we sign on a free transfer.

That and continue to raid other clubs academy players.

Sick and tired of seeing us being quoted insane prices for unestablished players.
 
romufc said:
Maybe because the likes of Dalot, Smalling, Lingard could actually be better players than what teams have in their team.

Not being good enough for Manutd does not mean they are not good enough to play football.

Lovren went for £11m
Last season Iwobi went for £25m
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Most likely because these "deadwood" are considered "assets" on the book. They can just put any price for these "assets", like Lingard is a 40m asset. So trimming the squad isn't to the best of Ed interest.
 
Chelsea sign Chilwell for £50m, no mucking about. Identify player, go and get him. Dithering Woodward will again gives us second best too late if anything at all.
 
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