World Cup Betting Thread

AngeloHenriquez said:
Any tips for a beginner? I'd like to have a go at a few this WC, give me an incentive to watch more.
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Not huge gambler myself but I'm looking at few options, best I've seen so far on PP are:

Man utd Top Scorer @WC: Shinji is 18/1! He has 3 goals in his last 4, takes freekicks sometimes and seems in good form, as do the entire Japan team

Dzeko is 40/1 for TS. Stick €5/€10 on that Each way

Also a little double for later: Brazil v Croatia - Draw and Mexico win tomorrow - €10 returns €120 I think it is.

If you fancy a little accummalator: Go for Switzerland, Mexico win with Eng v Ita & Ivory Coast v Japan both to draw. I think a tenner returns something like €490!
 
Cantonarightboot said:
Not huge gambler myself but I'm looking at few options, best I've seen so far on PP are:

Man utd Top Scorer @WC: Shinji is 18/1! He has 3 goals in his last 4, takes freekicks sometimes and seems in good form, as do the entire Japan team

Dzeko is 40/1 for TS. Stick €5/€10 on that Each way

Also a little double for later: Brazil v Croatia - Draw and Mexico win tomorrow - €10 returns €120 I think it is.

If you fancy a little accummalator: Go for Switzerland, Mexico win with Eng v Ita & Ivory Coast v Japan both to draw. I think a tenner returns something like €490!
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That does seem good, so there isn't really an outright "best" site, it's more the best odd's for the bet you want?
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
That does seem good, so there isn't really an outright "best" site, it's more the best odd's for the bet you want?
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I'll be doing my bets in bookies... try to keep away from online betting.

I'd say most sites are offering deals with it being WC. Seens some great offers on Coral, betfair usually do some good offers too..
 
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I've put $45 on my Betfair account and I'm willing to put more after the weekend.

So far the punt I want to get is Brazil -1 at 2.06. It seems like good value, Croatia will probably take time to adjust to Brazil and Brazil will want to get off to a good start, 2.06 is fair price in what I think will be a rather comfortable win for Brazil (1.35 for straightforward Brazil win is however underpriced IMO).
 
William Hill are offering evens on Brazil to beat Croatia at 12pm for a limited time, 20 quid max
 
Cantonarightboot said:
ah looking at a mortgage and the feckers track everything... any sign of online gambling and they crucify you!

Yet you can do as you like with cash bets in the bookies :lol:

My mate advised against me doing online betting for that reason...
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Wow I never knew that, can't even work out how that makes sense as both span from your name I thought.. still good fact to know, thank you.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
Wow I never knew that, can't even work out how that makes sense as both span from your name I thought.. still good fact to know, thank you.
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Well he said they research your bank records, anything at all that looks dubious they will query it... Especially online betting, anything with a bookies name on it is "frowned upon" apparently. Had two friends tell me this. 3 of my mates whom all went for mortgages in the last 2 years approx have stayed away from online betting. They bet in cash at the bookies from time to time though.

BTW this is just the case for Ireland, of course it would vary country to country...but with the current climate Irish banks are now tighter than a nuns knickers on valentines day!! :lol:
 
Gone e/w on Jackson Martinez @ £80/1 to be ts.

Also Coral offering new customers 2/1 on Brazil to wear yellow tonight, think it's only a tenner max, but surely it's buying money...?
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
If you haven't bet before, anyone in the loop know of any good deals to any sign up sites? such as free credit etc?

Any tips for a beginner? I'd like to have a go at a few this WC, give me an incentive to watch more.
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Bet365 give you double your deposit(maximum 200$£)
 
Cantonarightboot said:
ah looking at a mortgage and the feckers track everything... any sign of online gambling and they crucify you!

Yet you can do as you like with cash bets in the bookies :lol:

My mate advised against me doing online betting for that reason...
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You could still bet through Paypal. Send money from your bank account to a paypal account. Deposit money into betting sites using your paypal account. That way, it will never show up on your bank records that you are gambling. :D
 
unitedbhoy said:
@Brwned

Got Japan bet at Betfair. It is under World cup outrights, and Top Rest of World team.

I got Korea goals bet at betright. Signed up especially for it :D
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Quoted the wrong one! I meant the...

Neymar more goals than Sturridge / Rvp more goals than Rooney @2.2
 
iBoss said:
You could still bet through Paypal. Send money from your bank account to a paypal account. Deposit money into betting sites using your paypal account. That way, it will never show up on your bank records that you are gambling. :D
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sounds like a fair bit of hassle! Poxy banks screwing us all over!! :mad:
 
maba723 said:
Bet365 give you double your deposit(maximum 200$£)
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It means they have to rollover up to £3000 though, which isn't something you want to be doing as a beginner.
 
Gone for Brazil 2-0 tonight @ 11/2.

Also gone for France, Brazil, Argentina and Colombia all to win their groups @ 4.3/1 Good chance of that happening (providing the French turn up this time round which I'm confident they will!).
 
To qualify : Brazil, Spain, Colombia, France, Argentina, Belgium, Germany

£100 Free Bet
£240 Return
 
Put a fiver on Spain to win/ Neymar top goalscorer double at 80/1.Thoughts?
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
Wow I never knew that, can't even work out how that makes sense as both span from your name I thought.. still good fact to know, thank you.
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as an ex underwriter and then financial adviser its simply an added risk factor - and risk is something you seek to mitigate - either by loading a loan or you decline.

Also I remember somebody who used to spend everything on credit card in order to get cashback and it was a massive struggle to get them a morgtage because of underwriting rules at banks (they always paid in full at the end of the month thus incuring no interest but earning points for flights etc) - some banks state that regulary spending over a certain % of income on a credit card per month is an automatic decline - others will make you seperate out mortgage, car payments, food etc and list them as expenditure and also if you have regular payments (such as a credit card each month) - which effectivley doubles the outgoings

the rules are often rigid and result in an instant decline especially if they are using a computer based scoring system.

In the end after talking to the client we ascertained that several years ago somebody had tried (unsuccesfully) to spend fraudulently on their bank account so I suggested placing a note on their credit file to state that. - The result is that once there is a note on the system people can rarely computer score it without a real person looking at the file to underwrite it - and real people make common sense judgements (some of the time at least) - Though this will result in a delay in applying for anything - store cards, credit cards, hire purchase etc!

But as a general rule avoid online bookies if going for a mortgage etc... also pay day loans as they are viewed as a sign of potentially mis-managing money

Also avoid multiple applications as this can score negatively (looks like people are desperate for credit) - now companies can do a search that leaves no trace - but they by default dont (money saving expert have a facility on their website that does so can be useful if shopping round for a credit card etc)

On top of that ensure you are on the electoral roll - make sure that you get a copy of your credit file from experian or similar before you apply and check details are correct and if anything is wrong get a mark registered on your file to show dispute - plus any linked people are relevant (and will be more likely to help rather than hinder your file)

payment records are shown for the last 12 months - i.e any payments you are behind will show for 12 months after they are brought up to date and any defaults are shown for 6 years.

basically pay all your stuff on time not using a credit card and you should be fine -

other things to note large regular payments to pubs are viewed with suspicion - I had an underwriter once question payments to the pub of around 500 per month!... turns out the client regularly used premier inns to stay in for work - easy enough to sort out as his work paid his expenses a month in leu and this tallied but a lot of people would have just taken the fact that they wanted further info as a problem and walked away from it

I rarely use online bookies but if I knew for exaple I was going to apply for a mortgage in over 6 months time I would transfer a lump sum to my online account via my bank and then bet from the online account - if it was less than 6 months away I would transfer using a credit card then pay the credit card off at the end of the month as it wouldnt show bookies on the bank statements (it is rare to be asked for more than 6 months)... but dont withdraw any winnings till after the mortgage is finalised because if it takes several months they may ask for up to date statements - also as it would be a one of payment to a credit card it could be a holiday or a tablet etc so wouldnt be classed as ongoing spending (if you transfered every month and paid off then it would - but they wouldnt see the bookies as they very rarely ask for credit card statements in a mortgage application as they can track all the spending and payments through experian / equifax)
 
Just had a long shot £5 acca on top scorers for 7 countries.

Dzeko Bosnia
Benzema France
Higuain Argentina
Lukaku Belgium
Drmic Switzerland
Kokorin Russia
Slimani Algeria

............Only returns just over £33k. Hay, you never know:wenger:
 
Mr Bridger said:
Just had a long shot £5 acca on top scorers for 7 countries.

Dzeko Bosnia
Benzema France
Higuain Argentina
Lukaku Belgium
Drmic Switzerland
Kokorin Russia
Slimani Algeria

............Only returns just over £33k. Hay, you never know:wenger:
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if somebody is joint top scorer for their country does that count as a win or a loss?
eg say higuain, messi and aguero all score 3
 
Haven't checked any site rules so only guessing but if you bet on tournament top scorer (not golden boot) and there's a tie your stake is divided by the amount of players that are tied. Guessing with a team top scorer bet the same applies...
 
Japan to win their group 4/1.

Also placing 3 on this to return just shy of 100k. :D

Brazil 1st, Croatia 2nd.
Spain 1st, Holland 2nd.
Japan 1st, Columbia 2nd.
Italy 1st, England 2nd.
France 1st, Switzerland 2nd.
Argentina 1st, Bosnia 2nd.
Germany 1st, Portugal 2nd.
Belgium 1st, South Korea 2nd.
 
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