Cool - thought it would be relevant in light of recent events, happy to bump the old thread (and close this of course).As you say its been done, so not sure why we should do it again or add yet another poll.
that is incorrect, in fact the opposite is true!In order to win a league title, you have to play with style for a good chunk of the games.
Examples?that is incorrect, in fact the opposite is true!
including, say Mourinho's teams?Examples?
I'd say that every team that has won the league has gone a good 1/3 to 1/2 the games at least with lots of goals and entertaining football. Which is more than enough.
Absolutely. Mourinho's team had 41 goals after 19 games last year.including, say Mourinho's teams?
There's nothing entertaining about losing 'in style'. And I can guarantee that if one season we finished 6th or 7th, while having been involved in several games that finished 5-4, 2-4, 6-3, 3-5, etc, people would still be screaming for that managers head.
Ideally you want to win and to win in style, but if needs be, winning on its own is enough (and if you do end up winning a lot, you are by definition playing 'good football').
If you are a lower half Premier League club with limited resources you need to win any way you can. If you are Manchester United you need to play with style (and win).
Perhaps but winning with style is always the longer term aim. Winning without style is only acceptable in the immediate short term.Except in our current situation we desperately need to win to revive our season. Winning in style comes second
Winning.
Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
I became a Utd fan in the 60's because of how we played. In fact the game where my Dad and I became hard core Utd fans was when Leeds beat us at Elland road. We were standing in the Kop end at Elland road.
Speak for yourself. I watch to be entertained. Winning is great but for me it isnt everything. If I watched Utd using your guidelines i would have quit being a Utd fan the year we got relegated. This season my favourite team to watch has been Bournemouth. Are you part of the "only sing when we are winning" brigade?.Nobody watches a professional sport purely to be entertained. We wouldnt support various clubs if that were the case and would just enjoy the spectacle.
Many of us watch other leagues, and usually the better teams in those leagues. Thats because we have no affiliation with those clubs and don't have the roller coaster ride you get with the club you support.
So for the club you support, results always take priority. For those you don't, entertainments and style.
Style any day, football is about enjoment, entertainment and excitement. For those of you who can't remember the pre Fergie glory days it's perfectly possible to love the footaball you see week in week out without winning a trophy.
Speak for yourself. I watch to be entertained. Winning is great but for me it isnt everything. If I watched Utd using your guidelines i would have quit being a Utd fan the year we got relegated. This season my favourite team to watch has been Bournemouth. Are you part of the "only sing when we are winning" brigade?.
This.
Style all day long.
I don't watch football to see the team "win" as much as I do to be entertained.
Those who say "win" - I don't get it at all. Your not involved in any way. Why would you care about winning over entertainment?
Once you have the attachment it doesn't work like that though. We could be in the 4th division and most would still follow United.
We all want to win, whether we won 100 in a row, or haven't won for 10 games. We could play like Barcelona but if we lose, were all gutted. Some might beat their chest about the performance but nobody is happy, nobody is smiling.
And no, I'm one of those with patience and can see where the clubs heading, or at least what the plan is. A few years of little success in order to plan for years of success is fine by me. I'm one of those nutters who see the United way, as us playing youth and giving chances to those who wouldnt get them elsewhere.
Im one of the nutters.
You appear to have missed the fact I became a Utd fan because of style when Utd lost a game. Thats before I had any attachment. You said "Winning. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar."
Well there are plenty more "liars" like me following Utd.
At that point my father and i were regulars at Elland Road, we were Leeds Fans. I had Leeds scarves, posters etc. We stood at the front of the Kop at each game because the Leeds players in those days didnt have numbers on their shirts but wore leg tags with the numbers on those and at the end of the game they used to throw those to the fans. I still have Norman Hunter and Peter Lorimers leg tags.And had they won you would also have become a United fan, right? Is it possible just going, as a young lad, was enough? Or was this completely random?
Started following United in the 70's, long before they were "winning" anything. But yea, as i said, no one remembers losers.So why do you follow Utd? Because we win trophies?.
