Will there ever be a Woman Premier League manager?

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This a topic of discussion, I'm wondering if there are great candidates out there who is capable to manage a top level men's team?

Woman can be great and articulate when managing stuff, particularly in corporate companies. It made me wonder what stopped a woman from managing a men's team?

Out of curiosity who is the stand out candidates in recent times?
 
yeah i’m pretty sure they have managers in the women’s premier league.
 
I don’t really see why not. If you can do the job well then that shouldn’t be a problem. Just don’t let the intrusive thoughts win for the love of god.
 
With the amount of jobs going to players with a decade or two of experience playing the actual game and not corporates it's narrower than you'd think.

I don't think they're ever going to hire a woman that's "only" played at the highest level for females.
 
I don't think so, women don't normally succeed in male dominated industries. Moreover women are too emotional and to be a premier league manager you need to avoid emotions.

yes, I am, in fact, joking.
 
horsechoker said:
I don't think so, women don't normally succeed in male dominated industries. Moreover women are too emotional and to be a premier league manager you need to avoid emotions.
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Like our previous manager used to say, it's a man's game.
 
Yes, but only if they've been experience as a training ground coach in the men's game first. I think the jump women's football to the top of men's football is too big. It's like expecting a Conference League manager to takeover in the Premier League. So I don't think it's something that's going to happen any time soon, because as far as I'm aware there's no woman in the pipeline anywhere.

That raises a different question of whether a men's team would ever hire a former woman player to be a coach in the first place. That's got to be the first step and I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility right now.
 
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Devil You Know said:
Yes, but only if they've been experience as a training ground coach in the men's game first. I think the jump women's football to the top of men's football is too big. It's like expecting a Conference League manager to takeover in the Premier League. So I don't think it's something that's going to happen any time soon, because as far as I'm aware there's no woman in the pipeline anywhere.

That raises a different question of whether a men's team would ever hire a former woman player to be a coach in the first place. That's got to be the first step and I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility right now.
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Yeah, probably because football coaching career path isn't something of a viable choice for woman.

Wonder if that will ever change.
 
Reminds me of the Sacchi quote ‘To be a jockey I didn’t realise you had to be a horse first.’ The idea that a woman wouldn’t understand the men’s game has no real backing in evidence, especially if they were successful in the women’s game.

Unfortunately elite football is a closed shop almost for a certain type of manager that matches a profile, being a former players gives you a massive leg up. Being from certain countries like Netherlands, Germany and Italy gives you a leg up, as well as being white.

Read an article in the Guardian last month about managers in other continents that are excelling but never even get close to an interview for a top European job. So in that climate it’s tough for a woman to ever get a chance.
 
Yes, although not anytime soon I think. When this happens however I just hope that the decision to hire will be done judging the skills rather than having to meet some gender quotas, win PR points or other nonsense.
 
Very unlikely, in my opinion. In addition to understanding the game deeply, a Premier League manager is a profession that demands traditionally male personality traits on the extreme end of the spectrum where female representation is generally lower, such as low agreeableness and low neuroticism. So there's already a much smaller pool to pick from. And from that small pool, you'd need a woman that has decided to push on to become a Premier League manager when there's very little chance for success. And I imagine there would be more than one barrier in the way.
 
French league already did it some years ago so it should only be a matter of time. Emma Hayes perhaps
 
I do not think so. Women’s football lacks in quality compared to men’s football, it is worse than for example 15th league in male’s football. So someone who had managed only in women football is completely unqualified for a job in male’s top league.

You can envision a scenario when a woman starts in male’s lower leagues and make it to the top, but I think that chances of that happening are very low.
 
I think the best shot might be if a woman got herself involved in the youth setup (male football) at a Premier League club and worked her way up through the ranks that way.

Plenty of men coach in the Women's Super League, and have done. None of them have made the leap either.
 
Revan said:
I do not think so. Women’s football lacks in quality compared to men’s football, it is worse than for example 15th league in male’s football. So someone who had managed only in women football is completely unqualified for a job in male’s top league.

You can envision a scenario when a woman starts in male’s lower leagues and make it to the top, but I think that chances of that happening are very low.
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Is the only route to the Premier League for a woman, making it as a professional women’s manager? Can’t they work their way up the men’s pyramid?
 
I feel like clubs a lot lower on the footballing pyramid could hire a female manager and if she proves herself she could potentially work her way up the leagues. It would require her to have SAF level managerial talent though, and that is very rare.
 
Honestly Chelsea should have considered Emma Hayes. Not sure she'd take the job though.

I think we'll see one but it'll take awhile.
 
The stumbling block imo will be the ex players club that dominates management. The level of women's football is far too low for their experience to be transferable to managing a men's team. It will require a female to start out as an assistant coach within a men's team and work their way up from there.

What we could see is an ultra successful women's team coach being given a go at making the jump. Maybe Chelsea when they've run out of men to hire.
 
Pexbo said:
Is the only route to the Premier League for a woman, making it as a professional women’s manager? Can’t they work their way up the men’s pyramid?
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They can in theory, but I think it is very unlikely. Men are generally far more interested in football than females, and consequently there are far more male coaches than female ones. So, the pool of female coaches is quite a bit smaller. It is kinda similar argument to why most coaches were professional footballers.

Of course there could be other parts of the puzzle: a) women being (on average) fundamentally more agreeable than males which hinders their chances at the top; b) male footballers having easier to relate to male coaches; c) discrimination.
 
Can't be doing worse than Lampard, that's for sure.
 
Devil You Know said:
Yes, but only if they've been experience as a training ground coach in the men's game first. I think the jump women's football to the top of men's football is too big. It's like expecting a Conference League manager to takeover in the Premier League. So I don't think it's something that's going to happen any time soon, because as far as I'm aware there's no woman in the pipeline anywhere.

That raises a different question of whether a men's team would ever hire a former woman player to be a coach in the first place. That's got to be the first step and I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility right now.
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Doesn’t city have someone already in the background?

it would have to be someone who starts as background staff in the premier league and then becomes an assistant. Never a hop from the woman’s premier league straight to top management. Unless you have a team like Brighton or Leeds that needs publicity (i know some Brighton fans think they’re gonna win the PL in two seasons) but yes it’ll happen
 
I hope so. Couldn't fair any worse than many of their male counterpart ( same goes with officiating and punditry ).

However, I'd also consider the caveat that she receives her share of criticism, and people are not reticent when having an opinion for fear of automatically being branded a misogynist, or a dinosaur.
 
No. They have shorter feet for a reason.. its so they cant get as close as possible to the kitchen sink
 
I don’t know but women tend to be very methodical in their thinking. I’ve seen it first hand with the Mrs and how devious she can be with her takedown planning.

A chairman needs to be brave enough, they will fail equally as the lads out there. Nothing stopping them from being good enough if given a crack at it.
 
Speedicut75 said:
I hope so. Couldn't fair any worse than many of their male counterpart ( same goes with officiating and punditry ).

However, I'd also consider the caveat that she receives her share of criticism, and people are not reticent when having an opinion for fear of automatically being branded a misogynist, or a dinosaur.
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Imagine the headlines.
 
Yeah. I'm sure I've said before but I think young men take instructions from women better than they do from men, so women will have an advantage in the men's game.
 
If Becky Hammond can’t get a job in the NBA it won’t happen in the Premier League. Need to have a woman assistant coach first
 
KeanoMagicHat said:
Unfortunately elite football is a closed shop almost for a certain type of manager that matches a profile, being a former players gives you a massive leg up. Being from certain countries like Netherlands, Germany and Italy gives you a leg up, as well as being white.
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That's absurd... Netherlands, Germany, and Italy have provided one of the best managers ever in history of Football, that's why most teams choose managers from those countries, not because they are white.
British managers are white too, and no proper top club wants to hire british managers nowadays, because most of them are outdated when it comes to tactics.

Also you seem to forget that there aren't many black managers out there, because not many black players choose the managerial career when they retire.
 
FrankFoot said:
That's absurd... Netherlands, Germany, and Italy have provided one of the best managers ever in history of Football, that's why most teams choose managers from those countries, not because they are white.
British managers are white too, and no proper top club wants to hire british managers nowadays, because most of them are outdated when it comes to tactics.

Also you seem to forget that there aren't many black managers out there, because not many black players choose the managerial career when they retire.
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Why do you think that is?
 
I simply don’t see male players treating them with the respect that a male coach would demand. Simply because they would he thinking “what have you achieved in the game?”
Sorry but I can’t see it anytime soon
 
golden_blunder said:
I simply don’t see male players treating them with the respect that a male coach would demand. Simply because they would he thinking “what have you achieved in the game?”
Sorry but I can’t see it anytime soon
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Players already disrespect male managers who hasn't won many trophies like Pochettino and Potter, can't imagine what would they say about a female manager who has her first gig at male's team.

Not going to happen any soon.
 
golden_blunder said:
I simply don’t see male players treating them with the respect that a male coach would demand. Simply because they would he thinking “what have you achieved in the game?”
Sorry but I can’t see it anytime soon
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this was the first thought that came to my mind.

also, "what the feck could she possibly teach me?"

it might not be right or fair, but...
 
Speedicut75 said:
I hope so. Couldn't fair any worse than many of their male counterpart ( same goes with officiating and punditry ).

However, I'd also consider the caveat that she receives her share of criticism, and people are not reticent when having an opinion for fear of automatically being branded a misogynist, or a dinosaur.
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Well it would be great if it took a woman in the managerial role to realize that maybe managers in general have been receiving too much flack and toxicity
 
Bole Top said:
this was the first thought that came to my mind.

also, "what the feck could she possibly teach me?"

it might not be right or fair, but...
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What the feck could Jose teach me? (Said the Barcelona players when he was "the translator")
 
It would be good to know who are the best female managers in women’s football and what makes them the stand outs.
 
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