You're not. I wish for a different sort of keeper than De Gea. There's a lot more to goalkeeping than making spectacular saves.
Will De Gea reach all time clean sheet record?
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You're not. I wish for a different sort of keeper than De Gea. There's a lot more to goalkeeping than making spectacular saves.
No, we’d just have a different keeper to DG, made far too many mistakes now. He’ll be panicking since we signed butland today.
I don’t think many are saying that De Gea is currently better than big Pete, but you’re also debating who is the best goalkeeper for a club that’s almost 150 years old. It’s hard to find keepers.
I think Allison is the ideal blend of sweeping, 1v1 and shot stopping, Liverpool paid 80 million for him five years ago. We’d be quoted over £100 million now. We’ve seen with teams like Chelsea, those average all round keepers are generally pretty crap anyway.
Because one mistake deletes all the good games before, if only real world worked like that.
Welcome to the internet, where recency bias deletes long term contributions in an instant.
I can only remember the one against WBA at home. I think that was the only home league game we failed to win at OT that season. But at least it didn't cost us a CL place eh.
When he makes a mistake it's usually an absolute howler that it's almost absurd a professional goalkeeper could make an error that bad.
Even in one of his "good" seasons he's got the Brentford howler and Everton howler to his name and we're not even half way through the season.
Even in one of his "good" seasons he's got the Brentford howler and Everton howler to his name and we're not even half way through the season.
Definitely not alone in your opinion. He’s statistically the 4th worst keeper in the league and he’s consistently been below average for the past few years.
This particular mistake was also pretty atrocious
.ETH has done a great job preventing the number/quality of shots we face. If we can get a real top keeper in we’ll have a world class defensive unit.
I'm not asking Ten Hag to bench De Gea, but I honestly do feel that most people forget how many ridiculous goals De Gea has conceded during the years. I'm not saying that he's not a good goalkeeper, but I think there are many better options out there. His consistensy of poor goals conceded makes the team vulnerable. Defenders are less comfortable around a goalie like De Gea, compared to VDS and Peter. That's my point.
Mentioning other keepers' mistakes doesn't make sense because De Gea has been doing those types of mistakes frequently for the last 5 seasons.
no idea who by when Neuer was obviously that. DDG showing just why Spain didn't want him near the team tonight
Forgot about that one, the one I thought of was Vs Liverpool believe it was a Wes Brown own goal.
Because one mistake deletes all the good games before, if only real world worked like that.
Dodgy keeper label sticks. Ignorant to call it recency bias when it has been a part of his game all his career. There's a reason why he was watching the world cup on his TV while Brentford and Brighton keepers were in Qatar ahead of him. Also a reason why United are desperate to cut his wages. Wouldn't even be a conversation about it his long term contributions were so good.
You can't be serious. Pundits, fans and media alike rated him right up there.
Not now, but a mistake tonight doesn't change the past.
you're saying he was better than Neuer? sorry, just no. never head pundits say DDG was best in the world
Yeah of the 3 VDS made the least (obvious) errors. Certainly that I can remember. On the flip side I think Schmeichel and DDG have won us more games on their own. VDS I think had the best centre backs in from of him as well. Swings and roundabouts but if I was rating them I'd go Schmeichel (just) over Edwin and Dave third. All great though and head and shoulders above every other keeper at United in my lifetime.
It's very bizarre that you didn't given he was regularly described as such by pundits and commentators during his peak years. It's one thing to say they were wrong but it's very strange to not have heard them say it.
which pundits said it: never heard it from gary neviile or keano or rio or even souness or carragher
I can't think of many proper mistakes by Schmeichel while he played for us. VDS was more conventional at times and he maybe came across as safer due to that but I'd pick the former any day. De Gea is what you're saying about Schmeichel for me, at his peak he's fantastic on his day but too many howlers to be in the same category as those two.
You said De Gea isn't and was never up there as one of the best.
That's simply not correct. He was rated by many as exactly that - up there with the best, ie Neuer.
Just a few seconds of googling - Carragher, a pundit saying this.
https://oldtraffordfaithful.com/pun...ter-united-have-one-of-the-best-in-the-world/
I thought I was losing the plot pal - he was well regarded as right up there for years by almost everyone
Rival bitter fans would say how we were utter sh!t, but give De Gea his dues!
Obviously that World cup seemed to break him, as he came back and made tonnes of errors and all such talk ended.
However, last season and a half he's been much much better like old times, bar tonight!!
In face it's an utter joke wasting time on you pal.
Souness
https://www.thesportreview.com/arti...st-david-de-gea-best-in-world-graeme-souness/
Oh apologies, Rio as well
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/622121/Rio-Ferdinand-David-de-Gea-Manchester-United
Check out 99 season, can probably find a road to CL 99 on youtube, you will see some.
That disallowed goal. Could he have came out and try to affect something before the ball came to Calvert-Lewin? Looked like he was aware and anticipating the cross to come in judging by the little movement he did with his right hand when DCL made contact.
I saw all those games at the time. He had some, but so has any keeper. He had far less than most and a similar amount to VDS over their United careers. They were both great players for us.
Several of those exact pundits, for a start. You can hear Keane and Rio say he's the best goalkeeper in the world in the below video (along with the likes of Lampard, Fletcher, Given, Scholes, etc)
And Carragher regularly did. Like here:
Here:
Here (while talking about Alison):
And so on. If you watch back videos of De Gea's highlights from that time with commentary you'll also hear commentators describe him as "the best in the world", "arguably the best in the world", etc.
As I say, you can think they were all wrong to think that. But it's weird that you missed it being said given you presumably followed us throughout that period where he was the PL goalkeeper of the year in five out of six years, which naturally generated that discussion.
I’m sure your memory of a season from over 20 years ago where coverage was somewhat limited is 100% reliable.
Big critic of his but he's done better of late (tonight aside). Wouldn't renew his contract though.
As compared to one from the VDS period? I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean anyway as it's normally pretty clear what players are better when it comes to the absolute top and Schmeichel was in that exclusive list.
Your initial comment was “I can't think of many proper mistakes by Schmeichel while he played for us”, to which you were told to go back and watch footage because there were plenty, but you think your memory is sufficient to not have to go and watch back.
My comment in reply to that is pretty self explanatory.
And the last one for you pal
Keano
I thought by the title Roy Keane was going to say: "De Gea is best keeper in the world but.... its not good enough"
The comment in response was related specifically to 1999,. I can't remember many mistakes apart from one major one and from looking I can't find any more (although there is likely to be I'm sure). I'm happy to be corrected if there's more but there was no video linked in the post to show them. Coverage was pretty good then by the way.
I do remember a bad spell for him in the early 99 season, but he turned it around in the second half.
It's probably the wrong thread for this anyway.
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If De Gea did that, he would get slaughtered in here
He seems to make weirdest mistakes. And by weird i mean wtf?
As if he thought he was in some sort of charity match.
As if he thought he was in some sort of charity match.
Even in the final he was badly positioned for the Bayern goal.
Still our second best keeper after VdS, though.
There was one year where he was widely believed to be the best, but that was more due to Neuer having a dodgy season. Overall he was generally considered second to Neuer during that period.
On the one hand, being second to Neuer isn't exactly harsh criticism (probably the best keeper in history). On the other, it was at a time where there was very little competition, with the older guys either retired or not as good anymore and the next generation not having stepped up yet. He probably wouldn't have been second if it had been 5 years earlier or 5 years later.