Am I the only one that doesn’t see the embedded tweets, just links?https://x.com/hemmenkees/status/1691855645325099221?s=46&t=3cSPEXx54yOkvLX_Hq8XPw
https://x.com/hemmenkees/status/1691840974979289556?s=46&t=3cSPEXx54yOkvLX_Hq8XPw
We were good without the ball in the first half and really should have created far more from our pressing.
We looked pretty clueless playing out from the back all game. We'll see the tactic of not pressing Onana but instead waiting to pounce on Wan Bissaka and Varane who are poor on the ball regularly used against us this season.
Same thing happens for every top club : Real Madrid, Barca (just see headlines this week, bad they drew), PSG, Bayern.Funny enough, we don't see this discussion when other teams win but play poorly.
As much as people talk about people overdiscussing ABU's, only United would have media in uproar over a poor home performance and a 50/50 penalty after one game. Usually with other top teams, a spell of poor form brings this discussion, we literally won a game and it's made to look like a mini crisis.
What I'm trying to figure out is if the media are causing it or our pool of overreacting fans are causing this. I don't think this happens to any other team on the planet. Would threads be made on fan discussion sites? of course. But would media outlets and podcasts be discussing it with this much depth, I certainly do not think so.
My take, as well.Same thing happens for every top club : Real Madrid, Barca (just see headlines this week, bad they drew), PSG, Bayern.
It's quite simple really, the most followed clubs generate clicks, the most loaded headlines get more engagement. Journalists will take every opportunities to create engaging drama around the very top clubs.
The day the media don't care about us will be the day we're finished as a top club. Then again decision makers at the club seem keen to speed up that process.Funny enough, we don't see this discussion when other teams win but play poorly.
As much as people talk about people overdiscussing ABU's, only United would have media in uproar over a poor home performance and a 50/50 penalty after one game. Usually with other top teams, a spell of poor form brings this discussion, we literally won a game and it's made to look like a mini crisis.
What I'm trying to figure out is if the media are causing it or our pool of overreacting fans are causing this. I don't think this happens to any other team on the planet. Would threads be made on fan discussion sites? of course. But would media outlets and podcasts be discussing it with this much depth, I certainly do not think so.
It looked like one of those games where one team are a couple of weeks ahead in pre-season in terms of fitness and sharpness.
It was shocking how athletic some of the Wolves players looked in comparison with ours. Rashy and Garnacho easily outpaced and dealt with, our midfield utterly blown through at pace.
Hopefully just a loose tactical performance and we're up and running now.
Yes, that was also very good.
I’m so happy we’re finally starting to get some decent football tactical analysis after decades of “pundits” going over the same catalogue of cliches.
Not sure if serious.Eh I will take playing like shit every game if we still win. Do people really forget we play like shit a lot while still winning under Fergie ? "Zombie passing" was the term used here a ton. I would be concerned if we play like shit and LOSE. These next few games will be a good indicator.
Yeah this bs excuse of "us playing shite and still winning under fergie" needs to stop. We are playing shite for a long while now (second half of last season mostly).Eh I will take playing like shit every game if we still win. Do people really forget we play like shit a lot while still winning under Fergie ? "Zombie passing" was the term used here a ton. I would be concerned if we play like shit and LOSE. These next few games will be a good indicator.
For the literal minded: Sarcasm alert. Mercy buckets, PMI only lasted 5 minutes but will save everyone the full 17 minutes by summarising the answer he gives to the clickbaity title. Because we’re a shit team full of shit, predictable players. Which makes our third place finish last season a little confusing but ho hum.
Great analysis by Tifo. Thats why eth want a hybrid cb-rb to replace wan-bissaka.
This was actually my main analysis point too. I saw time and again players like Shaw, Antony, Garnacho, Martinez beaten for pace, Rashford and Wan Bissaka couldn’t outpace opponents, Fernandez and Mount less intense than the opposition, and Casemiro an out right sorry sight as the game progressed. This looks to me like physical form curve past heavy training, and no tactics or individual qualities are going to look good when every player is constantly half a yard behind their game.
We have tactical puzzles to improve and figure out, but this was much more than that. The las twenty minutes were straight up farcical, and with how measured Ten Hag was in his criticism outwards (no ‘this is not acceptable’ this time), it hints to me that he knew some of the reasons for how bad we were towards the end was not on the players.
so basically:
1. AWB is crap on the ball so he was given all the time in the world by the wolves players. Reminds me when we faced Ajax in EL Final few years ago, Davidson Sanchez was Ajax's weakest link so Mourinho let him have the ball knowning that he cant really hurt us.
2. Casemiro was isolated by players lining up in front of him, again. Bruno and Mount were too high, Garnacho and Antony were too wide.
These are the same old stories just like last season, no? people loved talking about how we played more "structured" under ETH (whatever that means) but how can he is so blind to these obvious problems? Signing Amrabat wont change anything, because the real problem is how we "structure" our football, not the quality of our players.
They had so many chances to score dont know what game you were watchingThe way some people are going on you'd think we didn't win the game. Did Wolves really test Onana? Nothing clear cut that I can remember. We weren't great but we weren't that bad either. An actual striker will make a world of difference.
Don't let Wolves poor finishing cloud your judgementThe way some people are going on you'd think we didn't win the game. Did Wolves really test Onana? Nothing clear cut that I can remember. We weren't great but we weren't that bad either. An actual striker will make a world of difference.
We are not behind on fitness though,So the question has to be:
Why are our players ALWAYS behind when it comes to fitness and physicality?
This issue has been going on for many many years and every manager fails to get these players performing to a high physical level.
Eh I will take playing like shit every game if we still win. Do people really forget we play like shit a lot while still winning under Fergie ? "Zombie passing" was the term used here a ton. I would be concerned if we play like shit and LOSE. These next few games will be a good indicator.
We are not behind on fitness though,
We saw this last season, United got off to a very slow start yet managed to maintain fitness better than any team by playing two games a week for most of the season.
EtH looks to have set the fitness regime up to bring the best out of them as the season progresses, rather than burning them out.
I guess (and I mean no disrespect) - Greece managed to win the Euros playing the most underwhelming football I've seen from champions in a top-tier tournament. My point being we may get lucky in the cup competitions but not in the league.Do you really think there's a way to play like shit and generally win? If you play like shit, you'll mostly lose. Just because you beat the odds one time, that doesn't make it one bit less worrying that you played like shit.
We are not behind on fitness though,
We saw this last season, United got off to a very slow start yet managed to maintain fitness better than any team by playing two games a week for most of the season.
EtH looks to have set the fitness regime up to bring the best out of them as the season progresses, rather than burning them out.
Because intelligent YouTubers vs thick ex-footballers.It's funny that Youtubers are delivering a bit of tactical insight while the former top level professionals on the subscription TV channels are busy singing Usher songs.
I guess (and I mean no disrespect) - Greece managed to win the Euros playing the most underwhelming football I've seen from champions in a top-tier tournament. My point being we may get lucky in the cup competitions but not in the league.
We are physically ready, just probably not at optimal peak condition.There is no way ten Hag has deliberately set it up so that the squad is not physically ready for the start of the season.
Yea. Which is why I hope we survive the Spurs game, not surprised if we lose there, but I expect us to be much better by the time we meet Forest.Shrewd analysis, fits all the way. There were jaw-dropping occurences here - like Garnacho getting the ball in his feet in stride with a meter or so on the defenders, just to get overtaken within three seconds. Or Martinez being crushed on a short sprint in our box by Cunha (I think it was). Or, as you say, EtHs very uncharacteristically sunny take in the post-game interview.
We all know the clear deficiencies in the team: Central midfield, no 9 and possibly RB.
But in other positions some of players we have are good but clearly not as good as we think. For instance, Rashford is a good player but not good enough to carry the attack, Bruno is another example. The only players that I would not change are Shaw, Licha, Varane, Casemiro and obviously Onana because he is new. I've never been convinced by Mount.
For Man utd to get back to the top, we need obviously to address the weaknesses but also upgrade on our strengths when possible. Until then, top 4 is our best hope regardless of how good the manager is.
