Television Why is Netflix so bad?

lsd

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I can't remember the last time I watched anything even half decent on Netflix whether film , television or documentary.

Everytime I scroll through what's new it is just so depressing how terrible everything they have seems.

Their films and shows are just woeful, poor quality in their making and terrible acting.

Who are greenlighting their ideas recently? I can only imagine they Google what's trending at the minute and try and jump on that bandwagon with an idea. Then they get people to make that happen who have no clue what they are meant to be doing and cast the same bland people based on looks rather than any acting skills.

It pains me as a hater of all things Apple how much better Apple's shows are in every single measurement.

Disney plus also has much more of an idea what they are doing and even Prime Video have a far superior selection of films to go through.

Netflix though just had nothing of interest and I'm sick off getting emails from them saying hey we just added some shows you may like. No you fecking haven't. You just added more absolute nonsense and boredom.
 
I’ve seen some good content produced by them but most of it seems wank to me too. Lots of HR-department-influenced rom coms and murder porn. I get why they opt for that, but that ain’t my kind of thing.
 
lsd said:
I can't remember the last time I watched anything even half decent on Netflix whether film , television or documentary.

Everytime I scroll through what's new it is just so depressing how terrible everything they have seems.

Their films and shows are just woeful, poor quality in their making and terrible acting.

Who are greenlighting their ideas recently? I can only imagine they Google what's trending at the minute and try and jump on that bandwagon with an idea. Then they get people to make that happen who have no clue what they are meant to be doing and cast the same bland people based on looks rather than any acting skills.

It pains me as a hater of all things Apple how much better Apple's shows are in every single measurement.

Disney plus also has much more of an idea what they are doing and even Prime Video have a far superior selection of films to go through.

Netflix though just had nothing of interest and I'm sick off getting emails from them saying hey we just added some shows you may like. No you fecking haven't. You just added more absolute nonsense and boredom.
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Because their business model is built around proliferation. They are betting that if they flood the zone with more, often mediocre original content; that this will keep subscribers from unsubbing, which in turn keeps their share price high.

Unlike others like Amazon, Max, Apple, Disney, and Paramount - streaming is pretty much Netflix’s only revenue stream, so they wind up offering a lot of low quality stuff, which is predictably beginning to frustrate many subscribers.
 
It’s crazy to think that it used to be the complete opposite. Netflix would produce or host really high quality contentS
 
I don't use it, but my sister does. whenever I come to visit them, she asks me to take a look and recommend something for her and her husband to watch. half of the content offered look bad, cheap or simply for teens. even browsing through all that shyte is depressive.
 
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The new TV interface is an eye sore, everything is so big and in your face, you can barely skim through it properly without getting a migraine.

Netflix is currently infected by greed, they are so fixated on increasing the share price that they lost sight of what made their product good. It's now in a slow tailspin... they actually had the brass neck of automatically changing my account to show ads, these start as only a few seconds long but that will undoubtedly change in the future (like YouTube).

Their original content is 95% wank and the other stuff they have is getting worse all the time.
 
Is it a knock on affect of the writer’s strike? Maybe there will be a load of good quality landing soon.

But on the whole I agree, haven’t been engrossed in anything on there for a long time. My 5 year old uses it a lot so won’t be getting rid anytime soon.

One thing I will say, is their apps are still the best by far in terms of speed, responsiveness, ease of use etc.
 
99% of it is shite. There’s just so much of it though, and they’ll occasionally fluke a diamond.
 
At the start they had basically no competition in the streaming industry. And although you’d think competition would increase quality - I think it’s had the opposite effect.
 
Netflix seems like it's run by AI.

Ryan Reynolds is trending. The Rock always does numbers. Horny men find Gal Gadot hot.

Action comedies are in right now.

Red Notice.
 
I have Netflix, Disney+ and HBO Max, and Netflix easily beats them all.
I find myself watching Netflix content 90% more than I watch the other 2 streaming services.
Pluto, Scavengers reign, Kingdom, 3 body problem, Beastars, Dark, all the shows I binged in 2 months and they were all brilliant.
In the meanwhile, I only watched new Lion King and some old cartoons for nostalgia reasons @ Disney+.
Max, I don’t even know why I’m paying sub to be honest
 
If you can't find anything on there that you consider entertaining then it probably isn't Netflix at fault.

That said there's a lot of shite on there these days and it's due to the length of time the good shows take to make. In order to fill the gaps and keep up new content algorithms there's more and more shite. The top 10 on netflix lists are nearly always 9/10 of shit TV.

They're supposedly moving back towards normal TV principles now they've disrupted the market. Expect less of full series dropping at once, less movie stars in shows etc.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Rarely use it these days. My daughter and wife use it a fair bit, though.
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My partner watched so many Korean shows on my profile that my home page recommendations are all Korean dramas. I mainly just watch Shudder now. That's right up my street.
 
What's a good Netflix show that didn't drag out and also had a decent ending? I can only think of Dark. Does Better Call Saul count as Netflix? That too then.
 
I agree so much of it is shit. I also feel the tendency to fill gap of good stories with prolonged sex scenes just becomes more and more frequent. When i was in puberty i would thought that was awesome now just really want good writing. Having shameless nudity and sex scenes is not breaking into new frontiers anymore. When a series is 20 hours long my body has its limits on how many times i can have a wank.
 
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It’s because they’ve optimised to metrics that favour certain programmes and writing and doubled down on it.

All comes down to what gets commissioned and since 2020 it’s gotten more and more bollocks.
 
Scandi Red said:
What's a good Netflix show that didn't drag out and also had a decent ending? I can only think of Dark. Does Better Call Saul count as Netflix? That too then.
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Better Call Saul is AMC.

I’m struggling to think of one. I didn’t like the 3rd season of Dark.
 
youngrell said:
Is it a knock on affect of the writer’s strike? Maybe there will be a load of good quality landing soon.

But on the whole I agree, haven’t been engrossed in anything on there for a long time. My 5 year old uses it a lot so won’t be getting rid anytime soon.

One thing I will say, is their apps are still the best by far in terms of speed, responsiveness, ease of use etc.
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Its a knock on effect of their business model. The likes of Max, Paramount+ and others are putting out less content, but at a higher quality level.
 
Pretty much the same model as the Xbox gamepass and to a large degree Sky.

Throw lots of stuff out early, get the subscribers in thinking it's all so wonderful, then have to start making profit somewhere down the line when the investors get tetchy and then cut plenty of corners/lower the standard of content and rely on the fact that there will always be people paying. Also, see the likes of Uber and how they've changed.


Raoul said:
Its a knock on effect of their business model. The likes of Max, Paramount+ and others are putting out less content, but at a higher quality level.
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Yep. The whole model is still in it's infancy though, those guys will also hit the wall where people begin to realise sooner rather than later. Luckily for them all, most of us don't care. I myself am the worst for subscriptions I barely even use still running, despite rarely (if ever) using them.
 
Redlambs said:
Pretty much the same model as the Xbox gamepass and to a large degree Sky.

Throw lots of stuff out early, get the subscribers in thinking it's all so wonderful, then have to start making profit somewhere down the line when the investors get tetchy and then cut plenty of corners/lower the standard of content and rely on the fact that there will always be people paying. Also, see the likes of Uber and how they've changed.




Yep. The whole model is still in it's infancy though, those guys will also hit the wall where people begin to realise sooner rather than later. Luckily for them all, most of us don't care. I myself am the worst for subscriptions I barely even use still running, despite rarely (if ever) using them.
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I think the trouble with their model is there are only a finite numbers of subscribers on the planet and they appear to have already come close to maxing out (as evidenced by their share price struggling to crack its all time high right now). Other companies can mitigate that by relying on other business units to continue innovating (examples: Disney through its theme parks, Apple through the next iPhone release etc.). The only outlet Netflix have is to generate a bit more revenue through cracking down on account sharing and adding a cheaper ad supported option. That is about as much as they can do at this point given that the there are a finite amount of subscribers, and a fair number of them are experimenting with other platforms these days.
 
Raoul said:
I think the trouble with their model is there are only a finite numbers of subscribers on the planet and they appear to have already come close to maxing out (as evidenced by their share price struggling to crack its all time high right now). Other companies can mitigate that by relying on other business units to continue innovating (examples: Disney through its theme parks, Apple through the next iPhone release etc.). The only outlet Netflix have is to generate a bit more revenue through cracking down on account sharing and adding a cheaper ad supported option. That is about as much as they can do at this point given that the there are a finite amount of subscribers, and a fair number of them are experimenting with other platforms these days.
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And even those with other business interests still are beginning to look again at these subscription based models. As we've already seen with ads coming in more and more, there are going to be changes that should annoy people but will ultimately work in the longer run.

It's the same in the gaming space with the subscription models attempted, but also the live video space with the likes of Twitch. They are owned, run and funded by the mighty Amazon, and yet they are putting out more forced ads, price hikes, and still run low quality in terms of bitrate and definitely effort with how many they've covertly laid off lately leading to lower standards all round.
 
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Half way through ep2 of the Laci Peterson documentary. Hooked on it so far. In my opinion, when Netflix get their documentaries right, they're very good.
 
Isn’t the current film industry just trash in general? You don’t get as much quality in quantity as we did 10, 20 years ago. Also, content is made for the masses so maybe the general population are more easily satisfied nowadays with below-par content.
 
I think its the only streaming service with a real future.
It takes me about 2 weeks to catch up on a years worth of Apple content. A monthly subscription just doesn't make sense for what they're selling. Convenience and goodwill is the only reason to stay subscribed. Which is fine when they're throwing truck loads of money at the best actors and directors to build the platform but wont end well when they look to start clawing the money back.
Disney doesn't have the width of selection for a general audience. Which is kind of funny after spending billions buying up every franchise thats ever existed. Its a subscription for young kids, which they could have probably sold with just the old disney cartoons really.
Prime will survive by virtue of being attached to amazon. Its not very good, they make feck all. Consumers probably wouldn't miss it if it was gone. The industry I guess would because its one less person to throw money into a black hole.
Netflix make mountains of crap but they make as many good shows as apple at their best along the way. They make a lot of random, niche stuff that just wouldn't get made elsewhere. They add stuff to it every week. They still probably have the best selection of movies unless you want to watch Napolean every night for the next 6 months.
Streaming tv as an idea would survive without Prime or Disney or even Apple. It wouldn't without Netflix.
 
caid said:
I think its the only streaming service with a real future.
It takes me about 2 weeks to catch up on a years worth of Apple content. A monthly subscription just doesn't make sense for what they're selling. Convenience and goodwill is the only reason to stay subscribed. Which is fine when they're throwing truck loads of money at the best actors and directors to build the platform but wont end well when they look to start clawing the money back.
Disney doesn't have the width of selection for a general audience. Which is kind of funny after spending billions buying up every franchise thats ever existed. Its a subscription for young kids, which they could have probably sold with just the old disney cartoons really.
Prime will survive by virtue of being attached to amazon. Its not very good, they make feck all. Consumers probably wouldn't miss it if it was gone. The industry I guess would because its one less person to throw money into a black hole.
Netflix make mountains of crap but they make as many good shows as apple at their best along the way. They make a lot of random, niche stuff that just wouldn't get made elsewhere. They add stuff to it every week. They still probably have the best selection of movies unless you want to watch Napolean every night for the next 6 months.
Streaming tv as an idea would survive without Prime or Disney or even Apple. It wouldn't without Netflix.
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Just read an interesting article about this. And basically, you’re spot on.
 
anyone having issues recently with Netflix? Sometimes takes a good bit longert to load when I start a show and for the first 2 or 3 mins when it eventually does load is all blury and low res but then does fixes itself and is grand again


Ive tried it on my 2 game consoles and the SKY Q app and same accross the board. But checked my phone and iPad and they seem fine
 
That Baby Reindeer show was good. That’s the last thing I watched on there.
 
I watch crime stuff and the Mrs likes dating style shows like Love is Blind. Between us we generally always find something to watch - every now and then we don't really have anything to watch but I don't expect there to always be something that I'm interested in. In those cases I just find something on Prime, Disney or IPTV to watch.
 
caid said:
I think its the only streaming service with a real future.
It takes me about 2 weeks to catch up on a years worth of Apple content. A monthly subscription just doesn't make sense for what they're selling. Convenience and goodwill is the only reason to stay subscribed. Which is fine when they're throwing truck loads of money at the best actors and directors to build the platform but wont end well when they look to start clawing the money back.
Disney doesn't have the width of selection for a general audience. Which is kind of funny after spending billions buying up every franchise thats ever existed. Its a subscription for young kids, which they could have probably sold with just the old disney cartoons really.
Prime will survive by virtue of being attached to amazon. Its not very good, they make feck all. Consumers probably wouldn't miss it if it was gone. The industry I guess would because its one less person to throw money into a black hole.
Netflix make mountains of crap but they make as many good shows as apple at their best along the way. They make a lot of random, niche stuff that just wouldn't get made elsewhere. They add stuff to it every week. They still probably have the best selection of movies unless you want to watch Napolean every night for the next 6 months.
Streaming tv as an idea would survive without Prime or Disney or even Apple. It wouldn't without Netflix.
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I largely agree with this.

I could take or leave Prime video, whilst it's included with Prime subscription people are happy to have it. If it was ever detached, or the cost to add it on was similar to that of competitors then I don't think half the people subscribed would choose to keep it. However, the addition of Premier League games was a big thing previously. If they can ever get a substantial amount of games it might be the case that enough people see the value. I don't have Prime now as I wasn't purchasing enough stuff from Amazon to make the free delivery worth it (which I actually think ends up being the case for a lot of people who stay subscribed, unless they buy like every birthday gift on there or something). The only time I kept Prime for long periods was when I had access to a Student Card of some form due to apprenticeships/qualifications at work.

I'm subscribed to Disney+, but the main reason I have kept it is mentioned by caid in the quoted post as well - the Disney/Pixar content and the fact that my 4-year-old nephew uses the account. If it wasn't for him, I would have cancelled it due to how much they've increased the cost. I assume this is largely down to them adding in things like Hulu (or however it's spelt) in the US, and the additional content from STAR. I think they'd have enough 'extra' stuff on there from all the Simpsons, Marvel, Star Wars etc they bought up to keep people interested, but they want to try and branch out to other things. It's understandable to want to monopolise as much as possible for a business, but regardless of how good the extra stuff is on Disney+, the average consumer will buy it for the things that are more 'Disney' - regardless of how good The Bear is!

I've never tried Apple's service, but none of the stuff I've seen trailers for has ever gripped me enough to want to. The only thing I've seen was Ted Lasso but I watched that through 'other means' shall we say? I don't really understand why Apple have bothered to try, I'd be surprised if it's something that makes them significant profits.

The OP does say some things that I agree with about Netflix, but I think branding, advertisement, and price are what keeps them top of the game. They're basically like the McDonald's of streaming. It's well-known, generally fairly priced, you know what you're getting and it fills the need more often than not. I actually think a lot of their original content, or some things that they have bought from elsewhere ended up being some of my favourite shows - Stranger Things and Cobra Kai for example. I've enjoyed some of the limited series and they do have a lot of the most critically acclaimed shows still on there. You could argue Netflix are becoming a bit complacent I suppose, but I do think they have a wide variety of content releasing and to keep it churning along I think mixed quality is to be expected. But I don't think I'd really call it bad. If you can't find anything to watch on there, I'd just research a release schedule and cancel it for a few months to let the content build up and see which shows reviewed well.
 
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