Why don't our players score hat-tricks anymore?

Samid said:
Tomorrow will complete our sixth consecutive season without a league hat-trick. 232 games.

Tomorrow will also see our last hat-trick scorer in the league retire from football. He left the club four years ago.
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I think he left a season too early. Just a class footballer in my opinion. I think he was the top scorer throughout the leagues as well that season - if memory serves me correctly.

I guess he didn't expect Sir Alex to retire and playing for Moyes was possibly not in his plan.
 
K13 said:
I think he left a season too early. Just a class footballer in my opinion. I think he was the top scorer throughout the leagues as well that season - if memory serves me correctly.

I guess he didn't expect Sir Alex to retire and playing for Moyes was possibly not in his plan.
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In a cohesive team he probably could have stayed until around 2017.

He burnt a lot of bridges coming to us, hopefully he feels it was worth it despite only getting one season before the club's downfall.
 
Samid said:
In a cohesive team he probably could have stayed until around 2017.

He burnt a lot of bridges coming to us, hopefully he feels it was worth it despite only getting one season before the club's downfall.
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I hope so as well. Playing a crucial role in a title winning team hopefully made it all worthwhile.
 
Samid said:
Remember the last league hat-trick? van Persie vs Villa to seal the league 4.5 years ago. That's 167 league games ago.



Hat-tricks for PL teams in PL since the start of 13/14 season (ever-present teams only):
Code: 
+------------+-----+------------------------------------------+
| Team       | HTs | Players                                  |
+------------+-----+------------------------------------------+
| Man City   |  7  | 5xAguero, Yaya, Sterling                 |
| Spurs      |  6  | 6xKane                                   |
| Chelsea    |  5  | Eto'o, Hazard, Schurrle, Costa, Morata   |
| Arsenal    |  4  | 2xSanchez, Giroud, Walcott               |
| Everton    |  4  | 2xLukaku, Naismith, Kone                 |
| Liverpool  |  3  | 3xSuarez                                 |
| Soton      |  2  | 2xMane                                   |
| C. Palace  |  1  | Bolasie                                  |
| Stoke      |  1  | Walters                                  |
| WBA        |  1  | Rondon                                   |
| W. Ham     |  1  | Carroll                                  |
| Swansea    |  0  |                                          |
| Man Utd    |  0  |                                          |
+------------+-----+------------------------------------------+

Even Leicester and Bournemouth have two each and they've played respectively one and two seasons less in the PL.

To put this into context, Lukaku managed to score a hat-trick for WBA vs United, moved to Everton, became their all-time PL top scorer and moved to United; all after United's latest league hat-trick.


Hat-tricks for United in all competitions since the start of 09/10 season:
Code: 
+--------+-----+----------------------+
| Season | HTs | Players              |
+--------+-----+----------------------+
| 09/10  |  3  | 2xRooney, Owen       |
| 10/11  |  4  | 3xBerbatov, Rooney   |
| 11/12  |  3  | 2xRooney, Berbatov   |
| 12/13  |  3  | 2xvan Persie, Kagawa |
| 13/14  |  1  | van Persie           |
| 14/15  |  0  |                      |
| 15/16  |  1  | Rooney               |
| 16/17  |  1  | Ibrahimovic          |
| 17/18  |  0  |                      |
+--------+-----+----------------------+

From averaging over 3 hat-tricks per season in Fergie's final four years, we've barely managed 3 hat-tricks altogether since he left and none of them in the PL.

So why don't our players score hat-tricks anymore? Don't get enough chances? Don't have the hunger? Poor finishers? Lack of composure?
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A dead right flank

One creative midfielder.

Simple as
 


Even Norwich players are bagging hat-tricks these days :( Will we get one this season?
 
A proper, top class, selfish, goal-hungry centre-forward. You don't necessarily need one to win things or be a good team (although it helps!), but statistically this is where the vast majority of hat tricks come from.

It's telling that Zlatan didn't get one. You hear a lot now about how good he was that first season, and 28 goals is certainly an achievement. But my overriding memory of him that season is of the disappointing misses as much as the goals - he should have turned so many of those braces into hat tricks.

If either Rashford or Martial truly succeeds at earning our #9 spot this season, we'll see at least one. I'm not sure if either will, though. Rashford has the drive and determination, but possibly not the profile of that sort of player - the thing he strives for seems to be to play well, rather than to score goals. Martial is more of a hard-nosed goal-getter, but I'm not sure he has the drive or the hunger.

Time will tell!
 
It is better that the team wins instead of one player trying to be selfish.
 
Mata should have one against Liverpool at Juanfield a few years but Rooney took the penalty instead (and missed). Ibra might have got one eventually had he not got that injury but other than that we haven't really had an outstanding striker for years so it should be no surprise.
 
Daniel James is my best bet this season simply because I can see him having a blinder, scoring two screamers and then coverting a penalty Rashford let him took because he is on a hat trick. Otherwise, no, we are not close to a one.
 
"Why don't our players score more than one goal a game anymore?"
 
All hat-tricks since our last one in the league:

  1. Christian Benteke vs Sunderland
  2. Daniel Sturridge vs Fulham
  3. Kevin Nolan vs Reading
  4. Romelu Lukaku vs Man Utd
  5. Luis Suarez vs WBA
  6. Luis Suarez (4) vs Norwich
  7. Adam Johnson vs Fulham
  8. Samuel Eto’o vs Man Utd
  9. Eden Hazard vs Newcastle
  10. Andre Schürrle vs Fulham
  11. Yaya Toure vs Fulham
  12. Luis Suarez vs Cardiff
  13. Diego Costa vs Swansea
  14. Sergio Aguero (4) vs Tottenham
  15. Charlie Austin vs WBA
  16. Jonathan Walters vs QPR
  17. Harry Kane vs Leicester
  18. Christian Benteke vs QPR
  19. Yannick Bolasie vs Sunderland
  20. Sergio Aguero vs QPR
  21. Sadio Mane vs Aston Villa
  22. Theo Walcott vs WBA
  23. Callum Wilson vs West Ham
  24. Steven Naismith vs Chelsea
  25. Alexis Sanchez vs Leicester
  26. Sergio Aguero (5) vs Newcastle
  27. Raheem Sterling vs Bournemouth
  28. Georginio Wijnaldum (4) vs Norwich
  29. Harry Kane vs Bournemouth
  30. Arouna Kone vs Sunderland
  31. Riyad Mahrez vs Swansea
  32. Jermain Defoe vs Swansea
  33. Andy Carroll vs Arsenal
  34. Sergio Aguero vs Chelsea
  35. Sadio Mane vs Man City
  36. Olivier Giroud vs Aston Villa
  37. Romelu Lukaku vs Sunderland
  38. Alexis Sanchez vs West Ham
  39. Jamie Vardy vs Man City
  40. Salomon Rondon vs Swansea
  41. Andre Gray vs Sunderland
  42. Harry Kane vs WBA
  43. Romelu Lukaku (4) vs Bournemouth
  44. Harry Kane vs Stoke
  45. Joshua King vs West Ham
  46. Harry Kane (4) vs Leicester
  47. Harry Kane vs Hull
  48. Sergio Aguero vs Watford
  49. Alvaro Morata vs Stoke
  50. Callum Wilson vs Huddersfield
  51. Wayne Rooney vs West Ham
  52. Harry Kane vs Burnley
  53. Harry Kane vs Southampton
  54. Sergio Aguero vs Newcastle
  55. Aaron Ramsey vs Everton
  56. Sergio Aguero (4) vs Leicester
  57. Mohamed Salah (4) vs Watford
  58. Sergio Aguero vs Huddersfield
  59. Eden Hazard vs Cardiff
  60. Mohamed Salah vs Bournemouth
  61. Roberto Firmino vs Arsenal
  62. Diogo Jota vs Leicester
  63. Sergio Aguero vs Arsenal
  64. Segio Aguero vs Chelsea
  65. Gerard Deulofeu vs Cardiff
  66. Raheem Sterling vs Watford
  67. Lucas Moura vs Huddersfield
  68. Ayoze Perez vs Southampton
  69. Raheem Sterling vs West Ham
  70. Teemu Pukki vs Newcastle
  71. Tammy Abraham vs Wolverhampton
  72. Bernardo Silva vs Watford
  73. Ayoze Perez vs Southampton
  74. Jamie Vardy vs Southampton
  75. Christian Pulisic vs Burnley
 
The outcome of hiring defensive managers. If Lampard was our manager, Greenwood would have two hatricks by now. If Pochettino was our manager Even our average players would have hattricks as well.
 
Amadaeus said:
The outcome of hiring defensive managers. If Lampard was our manager, Greenwood would have two hatricks by now. If Pochettino was our manager Even our average players would have hattricks as well.
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Your Poch fetish is genuinely interesting, have you spoke to a specialist about it?
 
Even the greatest strikers ever to have played the game never converted every one of their chances into a goal and we are lucky to create four chances a game, I can say no more.
 
The only hat trick we could get this season is if Ole pulls a top four finish out of one.
 
Am I right in Zlatan is the only player to have got a hattrick in any competition since this time? (St. Etienne?)

That is some sad shit.
 
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