Based on the fact that we had to go the extra mile with his wages, but we didn’t do so for Perisic? How was every other Jose signing shite? Clearly that’s false.
Why did we buy Fred?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
Based on the fact that we had to go the extra mile with his wages, but we didn’t do so for Perisic? How was every other Jose signing shite? Clearly that’s false.
Unless you are Ole in disguise, not sure you know anymore that what I do. I can only go off what he said unlike you who is going off what he didnt. Its funny how some players are dropped but others are rested. Not saying Fred is the answer but what we seen from Lindeloff, circumstances can change.
How's Fred rested ?
. Mourinho gave Lindelof chances , Ole didn't even bother with Fred. He is really baby faced assassin. On public he always said things people want to hear but behind , he actually didn't mind winning ugly , didn't mind shutting the door to defend lead and didn't mind dropping players when they failed to perform. It's funny how you can be so naive to not see the reality. I am 100% ole in because he did what i would too if i was a manager. Praising your fave players on public when i don't even rate them. We are going to face psg , Chelsea , Liverpool and crystal palace this February , all harder than Fulham , no chance for Fred to start except we get an injury or suspension.Definitely not for Matic. May be for Herrera but he needs to adapt his game. He makes too many touches.
This thread, very existence of this thread is vindication of bizarre transfers the club has done in past few years.
I'm sorry but it's glaringly obvious by now that Ole doesn't rate Fred. The fact he has used both Pereira and McTominay (who are both not good enough) over Fred speaks volumes.
Doubt he will make it here. Awful transfer decision yet again.
Fred hattrick in Paris to take us through the tie?
Another 'let's gazump City' transfer blows up in our faces. I swear that City generate fake interest in players just so Woodward will immediately go and buy them while Guardiola does his best Muttley impression.
Shades of SAF and Charlie Adam.
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Is Fred really worse than Perreira and McTominay? Is this possible?
Isn't it time to ask: Where is Fred, rather than why we bought him?
He's too sexy for his shirt
Think it’ll be a quiet exit in the summer and we’ll of forgotten all about him.
Sort of gets forgotten how much of a waste of £ he’s been due to the drama surrounding the club this year.
Sort of gets forgotten how much of a waste of £ he’s been due to the drama surrounding the club this year.
I actually loved seeing Scott coming in the dying minutes ahead of him.
He has no future here. He should tell his agent to start searching for offers for him.
He has no future here. He should tell his agent to start searching for offers for him.
Fred is a Brazil International. McTominay doesn't even stand out in the u23's. What an odd post.
The odd post is yours considering it has feck all with what I said.
I laughed more at this than at the Scott sub.
Who cares anymore.
Because he was on a piece of paper given by Mourinho to Woodward. But probably 3rd on the list by the looks of it.
He actually wrote Fred West on the paper for a laugh
Think he will play a part in for our next easy fixture which at this point looks like Southampton at home.
52m quid. We can’t blame Jose for everything, what did our scouts see in him!?
Poor guy.
Ole likes him even less than Jose.
Ole likes him even less than Jose.
It's hard to see him get a game. Should have just loaned him out to put him in the shop window and took back Fosu-Mensah
Often in the past Herrera has been as insignificant as Fred is now so there's still hope for him. The worry is that although maybe a solid player, he may not be an upgrade on what we already have despite his high price.
Jose's obsession with spending was probably the major reason he came even though not a priority signing but at least Fred being here has turned Herrera from Mr. Inconsistent into Mr. Dependable with the increased competition for places.
Jose's obsession with spending was probably the major reason he came even though not a priority signing but at least Fred being here has turned Herrera from Mr. Inconsistent into Mr. Dependable with the increased competition for places.
I like Pereira as young player, but even then, Fred couldn't be worse than him at the moment.
I saw this when Ole used Dalot and Tom as subs against Spurs, when Fred was also on the bench. Some made excuse this and that, but it didn't make sense then, it doesn't make sense this time also.
I saw this when Ole used Dalot and Tom as subs against Spurs, when Fred was also on the bench. Some made excuse this and that, but it didn't make sense then, it doesn't make sense this time also.
Yeh. That happened when changed the manager.
I never wanted us to buy him but I'm surprised just how far down the pecking order he is, I was sure he'd get a game against Fulham last week and now I can't see where he's going to get a game, Crystal Palace and Southampton are no pushovers and even if Ole rested one of the main 3 CM's I fancy it would be McTominay or Andreas that came in.
Our 4th highest all time transfer yet struggles to even get subbed on. Honestly if there is any value left in him I'd get rid and try and recoup that loss. Bring in midfielders we can depend on.
Good question, him being preferred over Allan and Fabinho for Brazil made me hopeful that our scouts and Mourinho weren't the only ones who rated him. Still holding out hope for him.
Is he trying to get Pereira to sign and tell him he’s a future here ?
Strange how he started the last game as a holding midfielder and comes on for mata this time around .
Strange how he started the last game as a holding midfielder and comes on for mata this time around .
He's so far down the order I'd expect Ashley Grimes to get a run-out ahead of him...
It speaks volumes that going into a week like this one, we leave him on the bench while Matic plays on a yellow since before the hour mark and then those subs. Ridiculous transfer this is turning out to be.
Starting to remind me of Kleberson
I don’t really get why he’s seeing zero minutes. When he’s played he hasn’t been THAT bad, just sloppy.
I hope that we’re just giving him time to settle in and feel more at home before putting him under the spotlight. a bit like what klopp did with Fabinho.
the other issue is Herrera is just too important to us, and I don’t think they trust Fred to do matics job.
I hope that we’re just giving him time to settle in and feel more at home before putting him under the spotlight. a bit like what klopp did with Fabinho.
the other issue is Herrera is just too important to us, and I don’t think they trust Fred to do matics job.
Maybe the journalists in the press conference can ask ole what's going on. It's truly baffling he can't get any minutes at all. The way we used him off the bench if we remember oles first game -it freed up pogba and we pushed Lingard to the false 9 who then combined for the last goal.
It's nonsense to believe fred couldn't play for us against the likes of Fulham . Perhaps he's carrying an injury?
It's nonsense to believe fred couldn't play for us against the likes of Fulham . Perhaps he's carrying an injury?
I think he has not done himself any favours in being so sloppy with his passing when he has gotten a chance. If he had of just kept things simple and pressed well he would have been in a better position and could have started being a little more expansive once he settled a little bit and had some sharpness. I think Ole has justified concerns that he may give the ball away in a dangerous position, that is a big problem when you are in a close fight for top 4 (which obtaining could change Ole's entire career).
I think he will play against PSG in Pogba's absence because we need goals and it feels like a no lose situation. If he plays well there then we might see a bit more rotation in the league. I literally never watched him at Shaktar but I hold out hope despite being hugely unimpressed as knowledgeable people did seem to absolutely rave about him.
I think he will play against PSG in Pogba's absence because we need goals and it feels like a no lose situation. If he plays well there then we might see a bit more rotation in the league. I literally never watched him at Shaktar but I hold out hope despite being hugely unimpressed as knowledgeable people did seem to absolutely rave about him.
He is not as good as Pogba, although i am surprised he has not come on for him, perhaps towards the end of matches.
He does not work as hard as Herrera and is probably not as careful in possession. Fred probably has better vision than Herrera. Herrera is so important, like Rakitic is for Barca.
He is not considered for the DM role. Matic has made that his own with his tackling ability and his ability to snuff out attacks. Matic is much taller as well.
Could start against PSG instead of Pogba.
He does not work as hard as Herrera and is probably not as careful in possession. Fred probably has better vision than Herrera. Herrera is so important, like Rakitic is for Barca.
He is not considered for the DM role. Matic has made that his own with his tackling ability and his ability to snuff out attacks. Matic is much taller as well.
Could start against PSG instead of Pogba.
I think City were after him too.