Why did United buy Bayindir?

Quality control
More like Buyin-nadir. That’s why united bought him.
 
Always seemed an odd choice for us and his own development, a weak error prone keeper that is probably many years away if he is to come good at all.
 
The first goal, he made a great stop, only to miss-palm the ball in the direction of Solanke.
It could have gone anywhere and our defenders could have reacted quicker, instead of being rooted to the spot.

No chance with their 2nd and 3rd.
Not his fault.
Our DM and defence was all over the place.

The 4th goal he was heavily impeded by the Swedish lad, marginally just short of a foul, but should have been stronger.
It was a wicked ball in from the corner.


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I think Kovar went for slightly more than we paid for Altay but it all came down to being able to book the entire Kovar fee in last seasons accounts whilst spreading out the cost of his replacement over five years giving us more financial flexibility. A rotten short sighted decision even without the benefit of hindsight but the consequence of a terrible recruitment strategy and paying wildly inflated fees for average players.

Likely this.The other possible is that maybe he just wanted the move too.

United release De Gea who is a little older, sign Onana who potentially has many years ahead of him as number 1. Hradecky at Leverkusen is a year older than De Gea and is now 35. In terms of long term pathways into becoming a starter, a player might have thought he has a better shot at Levekusen if you're looking at that in the summer of 2023. Sure, Hradecky is their captain so he's hard to compete against, but so is an at the time 27 year old goalie that a club has just splashed 40m+ on.

Would say Czech culture is arguably more similar to German too. German teams are a big draw to players from their neighbouring countries as well, a few more guys from Czechia in the league, as well as France, Denmark, Austria, Poland, Belgium, Netherlands etc.

None of that means we had to replace him with Bayindir specfically, could perhaps have found someone else
 
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It was without exception a signing that the foul bald’un drummed up while he was in charge. Of course, what a flop he was on his big night.
 
I doubt it’s ETH’s fault, Bayindir have no ties with Ajax or the Dutch league
 
Unsure, but whoever recommended and sanctioned the signing has hopefully been fired by now.
 
Random signing. Amorim gave him his opportunity tonight under the lights and he was poor at best. Almost certain we won’t see him again this season unless there’s a dead rubber somewhere along the way and he’ll be back to Turkey in the summer.
 
Probably something to do with his high PA in Football Manager 2019. Having known nothing else about him, I was actually pretty interested by his signing
 
I think because we couldn't get Verbruggen or anyone else that we really wanted as a number 2 behind Onana.

It's not a pressing issue right now, but I hope we find an Ortega/Kelleher level number 2 eventually.

Brighton paid 16m for him. I don't think we'd have spunked that and the 47m on Onana. Don't get me wrong, that would absolutely be the correct thing to do, but Verbruggen was breaking through and at that point in his career he wouldn't have joined behind a GK that cost almost 50m and just played in the CL final. I think we may have been looking at Verbruggen as potential #1 or looking to sign two major prospects at the same time.

Anyhow, I don't think it's a huge ask to get in either a solid 30-33 year old keeper who is good in the dressing room, or a serious young prospect who will always be in the match day squad and get minutes in the cups because they are actually good enough to warrant that. And if Onana has a period where he's dropping clangers, he's out of the team for a game or two. It's healthy.

Heaton of course is just too old.
 
It was a bizarre signing at the time.

I never understand why clubs moved away from just signing a veteran keeper as the #2 and having the best young lad at the club as the #3

There must be a tonne of goalkeepers in the 31-36 bracket who were once top, top keepers and would now be happy to play 5 games a season
It's probably because those former great keepers belonged to an era when being able to pass the ball hadn't yet become the most important asset of a goalkeeper like it is these days. And, while I am saying that in jest, there may even be some validity to it if you look at Forster's performance today, who at 36, looked like a dinosaur trying to play out from the back.
 
Brighton paid 16m for him. I don't think we'd have spunked that and the 47m on Onana. Don't get me wrong, that would absolutely be the correct thing to do, but Verbruggen was breaking through and at that point in his career he wouldn't have joined behind a GK that cost almost 50m and just played in the CL final. I think we may have been looking at Verbruggen as potential #1 or looking to sign two major prospects at the same time.

Anyhow, I don't think it's a huge ask to get in either a solid 30-33 year old keeper who is good in the dressing room, or a serious young prospect who will always be in the match day squad and get minutes in the cups because they are actually good enough to warrant that. And if Onana has a period where he's dropping clangers, he's out of the team for a game or two. It's healthy.

Heaton of course is just too old.

Verbruggen snubbed us for Brighton due to game time concerns. That to me suggests he would've been brought in as an understudy for Onana, rather than have two young inexperienced guys fight for the number 1.
 
It was a bizarre signing at the time.

I never understand why clubs moved away from just signing a veteran keeper as the #2 and having the best young lad at the club as the #3

There must be a tonne of goalkeepers in the 31-36 bracket who were once top, top keepers and would now be happy to play 5 games a season
The role of once-decent aging English keeper paid just to hang around the place in case of emergency is already filled by Tom Heaton. Man City have Scott Carson for the same reason (who replaced Richard Wright), Chelsea have Marcus Bettinelli, Spurs have Fraser Forster, etc. "Top, top" keepers generally play to a ripe old age these days. I can't think of any that'd be willing to semi-retire in their early 30s as a backup. Maybe De Gea would have had he signed his contract in time, considering he took an entire year out of the game.
 
Verbruggen snubbed us for Brighton for game time concerns. That to me suggests he would've been brought in as an understudy for Onana, rather than have two young inexperienced guys fight for the number 1.

Didn’t we also want to sign Suzuki last year? No idea, why the club stopped looking for a decent number two.
 
Of course Ten Hag saw something in him. What else is new? Bald piece of shit.

:lol: I can't lie ten hag really did do us over with his signings and I still struggle to get over it. He sold Kovar for peanuts who is better than both Onana and Bayindir. Brought in Antony when we already had sancho, signed Mason Mount for 60 million who is now injury prone when we could have got him for free the following summer.

Turned down signing Solanke and we signed Hojlund for 72 million. I cant' pin the blame on him for Casmiro that was more of a club signing in my opinion, but can blame him for wasting an entire summer window chasing De Jong. Wanted to sign Rabiot and Arntanovic, brought in Martinez, he is now going to need upgrading soon. Signed De Light who is not much better than Maguire. Then we have Malacia who is not up to the standard when we could have promoted A;varo Fernandez

The only signings I can see that bring any long term value to the club are Marazaroui, Yoro, Zirkee and Ugarte, who I believe were pushed on him by Ineos

At least Ole's signings made sense and made major contributions to the club even to the day, the likes of bruno, maguire, amad which he doesn't get credit for and varane when he was here were key players in some time or another

And all the profile signings he made who have big weaknesses where they are either not physically or technically suited to the premiership.
 
Didn’t we also want to sign Suzuki last year? No idea, why the club stopped looking for a decent number two.

I think he must've been on the shortlist too. Maybe we'll be back in for him again at some point, as to my knowledge he's doing well at Parma.
 
Whoever scouted or recommended this guy should be spanked moderately hard.

The state of our recruitment department.
 
Two mistakes. Not his fault, cant put a player in who hasnt played football at all for months and expect him to deliver
Seriously? There can't be ANY excuse for conceding straight from a corner. He absolutely bottled it.
 
Relatively cheap unambitious player who is happy to sit on the bench and play the odd cup game.

I'm sure we could have found a cheaper one, but its still not a large amount for a backup goalkeeper
 
While Altay has no links with Dutch league, ten Hag wanted him for Ajax when he was playing for Fenerbahce. I definitely think it was a ten Hag transfer.
 
Jaysus that was one abysmal display. Look at Liverpools number 2 compared to ours.
 
I used to play FM this way. always used the main keeper unless he was injured, while the backup was benched in every competition and was always lacking match fitness. soon he would ask to leave, except this guy doesn't look like he minds sitting on the bench.

even Lindegaard used to play more from my memory.
 
If Vitek carries on doing well on loan, he should be our number 2 next season.
And probably challenge for no.1…. It’s been quite disappointing we’ve not been able to get a goalkeeper from our academy challenging for no.1 position. Foster I think is the only one that got few games.
 
He's just looked so shaky and every single game or highlights clip I've seen. Like, the opposite of what you want in a GK. Just can't understand how any scout thought he was worth signing. Heaton or our youth team GK can't be any worse.
 
The first goal, he made a great stop, only to miss-palm the ball in the direction of Solanke.
It could have gone anywhere and our defenders could have reacted quicker, instead of being rooted to the spot.

No chance with their 2nd and 3rd.
Not his fault.
Our DM and defence was all over the place.

The 4th goal he was heavily impeded by the Swedish lad, marginally just short of a foul, but should have been stronger.
It was a wicked ball in from the corner.


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The first is a soft shot that he clears into the most dangerous area he could possibly manage. A shot like that, you easily deflect either to a corner or out wide. That was terrible goalkeeping. The problem with the first is that it sets us on the backfoot immediately and it becomes hard to trust him going forwards.

The second or third he could do little about.

The fourth is not his mistake. Try running whilst someone is holding your foot - it won't work. He most likely went to hold the ball with both hands. Thus, that Swede prick (what a tosser) impeded his actions by fouling him - clear foul, and not Bayindir's mistake, imo.

His footwork was generally decent, and he likes to curl it around players instead of the more lofty, slower passes out wide that Onana prefers. When it works, it's quite efficient, but as it showed, when it doesn't, it gives the opposition an opportunity in dangerous positions.
 
Jaysus that was one abysmal display. Look at Liverpools number 2 compared to ours.

Remember when we had Romero? Arguably the best number two goalie that I can remember. Hardly ever made any mistakes and so little fuss about him. Actually a bit of a disgrace how the club handled his exit.
 
And probably challenge for no.1…. It’s been quite disappointing we’ve not been able to get a goalkeeper from our academy challenging for no.1 position. Foster I think is the only one that got few games.
Foster wasn't an academy player.

Henderson was and he made a decent stab at getting the no.1 shirt.
 
Sure, Hradecky is their captain so he's hard to compete against,
He is also a super chill guy who doesn't mind not playing every match but actually appreciates having time to rest. There is a reason why last season was his best in ages when he did not play as many games as usual due to Kovar getting about a third of the starts. Team spirit matters and if you look at this detail it's hard to find a better keeper to challenge. Other keepers have far more ego than to allow that (thinking about Neuer for example who practically makes it impossible for Bayern to sign a strong second keeper)