Whose Top 4 Place Will we Take Next Season?

Never thought I'd say this but I actually agree with alastair. Plenty of chance we'll take time to get used to Van Gaal and we badly need a centre mid or two who is capable of competing at the very top level.

Everyone comes round to my way of thinking eventually. Welcome.
 
To be honest I want to see our squad before I assume we will be back in the top four. City and Chelsea don't look like they're going anywhere, the dippers will spend in an attempt to make it to the top so that leaves ze arse, and who knows what they will do.
We know LVG will spend and will hopefully attract top talent, or at least talent that will improve Utd. We still have a decent nucleus but we also have a lot of iffy players.

I just don't know where we will wind up.
 
I think Liverpool are the most likely culprit, but it will still be difficult for us to usurp one of the top fours current occupants.

Chelsea and Manchester City are the two sides who simply won't become embroiled in a top four fight at any costs given their squad quality and management. The latter might not be the same force as they were last season given their squad restrictions and spending limitations, but they still possess the strongest squad in the league and so many game-changers and players who elevate their performance level above anything their rivals can muster. As for Chelsea, Mourinho sides are notoriously stronger in the second season and he'll undoubtedly refine and mould his team the way which best suits his style. The signing of Costa will improve them sevenfold and is the perfect fit for a Mourinho team. I expect them to win the league and City to compete the whole way.

I expect Arsenal to improve enough to maintain a sizable points margin between themselves and the fifth placed team. They've won their first trophy in years which should have a massive impact on the team mentally, so I'd expect another momentous, run of form at the start of the season. Their weaknesses will likely be addressed and a lot of young players will continue to develop at a fast rate, such as Wilshere possibly, who has stagnated in the last few seasons. I think they'll experience the same short-comings as they do every year with squad depletion however and that might see a similar self-implosion as last season.

Liverpool have been massive beneficiaries of continuity throughout their first squad and having a fresh squad throughout 90% of last season. They will obviously make quite a few additions, but whether they have a sizable contribution is another question. Last season they signed Moses, Mignolet, Sakho, Toure, Aspas and Alberto; One of those was only a real success, with Toure and Sakho impressing at times. Only around 14 or 15 players really played an important role and although Liverpool will be delving into a higher bracket market, it's not a foregone conclusion they will succeed. I expect them to get a bit of a reality check, having to juggle numerous competitions.
 
if the teams stayed the same right now, i'd say we're the likeliest not to make the top 4. LVG can only do so much. until the transfer window has closed it's impossible to answer this thread, really.
 
if the teams stayed the same right now, i'd say we're the likeliest not to make the top 4. LVG can only do so much. until the transfer window has closed it's impossible to answer this thread, really.

Well Moyes was able to do more than enough to a title winning squad to annihilate their morale and get them to finish in their worst ever position in th PL era. So cannot understand this statement that LvG won't be able to do the opposite.
 
Never thought I'd say this but I actually agree with alastair. Plenty of chance we'll take time to get used to Van Gaal and we badly need a centre mid or two who is capable of competing at the very top level.

Arsenal have needed a striker badly for a couple of seasons and CBs prior to that. Yet they kept managing top 4. Our squad is good enough for getting in the CL places. If we don't add to it, which is extremely unlikely, we might not fight for the title. However I expect us to take Liverpool's place if all the teams keep the same squad.
 
I dont see a for gone conclusion with City and Chelsea being top two. I would have Chelsea favorites, but if city lose yaya, and if they take FFP seriously, they could very well drop out of the top 3.

If Arsenal sign a world class striker, RB/CB and DM i think they will be stronger challengers for the league.

I dont see Liverpool having the same or better season as they did. At this currency moment i think we will be scrapping it out with Liverpool for 4th.
 
If Chelsea don't have a good window this summer then they could drop out. This would also rely on United, City, Liverpool and Arsenal all to have good windows and seasons.