prarek
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Godin, Pogba, Varane and id be chuffed.
Nein.
I thought he hadn't. If LvG wants to play a front 3 that has two natural wide starting players then Felipe Anderson and Memphis would be two good choices, but doesn't Anderson have some 3rd party ownership complications?
Yes. But that's the norm with almost every South American player these days. If United can thrash out a deal to acquire full ownership of Felipe (like we did with Rojo), then there should be no hassles when it comes to a potential transfer.
What sort of price do you think he'd cost? I read the scouse are sniffing around him, not sure how Lazio are set financially these days.
Dunno mate. Serie A clubs are extremely tough to negotiate with when it comes to buying players, but conversely are frugal when it comes to actually comes to parting with their own money. Lazio doesn't have a recent history of selling quality players so it's hard to gauge a transfer fee. Because it's United they'll drive up the price by a couple million no doubt - probably more than Hernanes' £15m figure. But lower than Cuardado's £23.3m initial fee. Maybe £16-18m as a rough estimate because they're aware of the fact that United has a mountain of revenue to spend once we fixate on a target.
Shit. I'm getting him confused with that Allan bloke from Udinese aren't I.Did Felipe Anderson play as DM before he moved to playing as a wide forward?
Shit. I'm getting him confused with that Allan bloke from Udinese aren't I.
That's the one!Must be, Allan is a DM and Brazillian.
RB - Coleman
CB - Stones
CM - Pogba
Winger - Bale
Striker - N/A (not needed)
I dont think we urgently need a cm or winger, and we definitely dont need a striker.
We need quality - I dont care for the usual "prospects" who might make the step up etc (like dybala, clyne, danilo etc) but rather proven top quality players (Stones admittedly is more of a prospect himself but he is what I would describe as a sure thing)
That's the one!
RB - Coleman
CB - Stones
CM - Pogba
Winger - Bale
Striker - N/A (not needed)
I dont think we urgently need a cm or winger, and we definitely dont need a striker.
We need quality - I dont care for the usual "prospects" who might make the step up etc (like dybala, clyne, danilo etc) but rather proven top quality players (Stones admittedly is more of a prospect himself but he is what I would describe as a sure thing)
Yeah I saw that match against Juve, along with one other Serie A match - so I'm by no means an expert! But he really stood out for me, he seems highly rated and could be a much cheaper option than the majority of DMs we get linked with.He's really good, dominated Pogba a few weeks ago, seemingly under the radar or just not spectacular enough for the media to invent transfer stories about.
In the current market him and Memphis for a combined total of under £40M seems like pretty good business to me, and I'd say physically both look cut out for the PL for sure which is a bonus.
Yeah I saw that match against Juve, along with one other Serie A match - so I'm by no means an expert! But he really stood out for me, he seems highly rated and could be a much cheaper option than the majority of DMs we get linked with.
RB - Janmaat
CB - BMI
CM - Wijnaldum
Winger - Depay
Striker - Bas Dost
Indeed. One might even liken Felipe to a slightly less deft and skillful but quicker, more athletic version of Coutinho (cue guffaws from Liverpool fans). Given the latter's performance level for Liverpool this season, he'd be worth atleast £25m in an open market. Felipe has that kind of potential, so if we can wrap and Memphis us for £40m or thereabouts, that would be real value for money.
The only thing that gives me pause with Felipe is his weight fluctuation and the consequent longer term effect of him burning out before his peak. Reportedly gained 10 pounds after signing from Santos which resulted in lackadaisical play. That is a huge red flag for a player whose game is predicated on pace and high fitness levels. Then one might even question his professionalism and dedication to the cause once he gets his first big pay packet and acquires a taste for wining and dining. It's a significant concern, especially with chubster Anderson's well documented lack of effort.
That said, a few players can adjust to the extra weight - someone like Romario or even Ronaldinho weren't anatomic marvels by any means and still produced at an elite level. So if Felipe can keep his weight in check through the season and is focused, then he'd be a great addition to the squad and hopefully, our long term starting XI.
Concrete Ron,Vlaar ?I think you'll sign a right back, centre back, centre midfielder and a striker.
If I could pick for you, I'd go Clyne, Concrete Ron, Strootman and Falcao.
Very badly mixed Concrete Ron. That's who a Liverpool fans wants us to buy. I wonder why?Concrete Ron,Vlaar ?
Ah, I wonder what it is that seems to take several Brazilian players this route, many seem to lack the ferocious competitive edge of say the Argentine of Uruguayan's that come to Europe. I wonder if clubs might wait to see if he can follow up this breakthrough season with another good one before making a move, given some of the issues you mention could prove wise to use caution.
What are your views on Fekir? Personally a front 3 of Memphis--Rooney--Fekir looks pretty great to me and I have been more impressed with him than Lacazette when watching Lyon this season. he's more tenacious and I think a cleverer player, especially around the box..
Agreed.Very badly mixed Concrete Ron. That's who a Liverpool fans wants us to buy. I wonder why?
Could be wrong but I think it's a social issue with Brazilian players. While it's unfair to stereotype, but to this day, a lot of Brazil's most talented players come from favelas with a very impoverished upbringing. Maybe the lure of an extravagant lifestyle once they sign up for a major club is irresistible. Brazil does have a reputation for partying and having a good time, moreso than Argentina or Uruguay which are more blue collar. Maybe that factors in too. Anyway that's just an uneducated guess and based on my notions of Rio, maybe I'm just talking out of the arse.
Fekir is someone I rate, but again he has a small body of work, which always makes me queezy. But by all accounts he's very highly rated in French circles and thought of, if not as highly as Ben Arfa in terms of potential, then atleast somewhere in the ballpark AFAIK. @JPRouve and @Chaky_Best might have a more informed opinion.
Van Gaal's off - no shit Bene players.RB - Janmaat
CB - BMI
CM - Wijnaldum
Winger - Depay
Striker - Bas Dost
I feel we need a RB, CB, CM, winger and striker. We may need more than one in certain positions but I was just wondering who everyone would pick if the could only choose one.
Try and pick players we have been linked with. (No Messi's or Suarez's etc)
RB - Clyne
CB - Godin
CM - Pogba
Winger - Depay
Striker - Dybala
Ooooh now that's a lovely looking team.RB: Danilo
CB: Godin
CM: Veratti
WG: Depay
CF: Lacazette
De Gea
Danilo Godin Rojo Shaw
Di Maria Verratti Herrera Depay
Rooney(C) Lacazette
Lovely.RB: Danilo
CB: Godin
CM: Veratti
WG: Depay
CF: Lacazette
De Gea
Danilo Godin Rojo Shaw
Di Maria Verratti Herrera Depay
Rooney(C) Lacazette
Clyne, Hummels, Laporte, Pogba, De Bruyne and Lacazette
I feel we need a RB, CB, CM, winger and striker. We may need more than one in certain positions but I was just wondering who everyone would pick if the could only choose one.
Try and pick players we have been linked with. (No Messi's or Suarez's etc)
RB - Clyne
CB - Godin
CM - Pogba
Winger - Depay
Striker - Dybala
Thankfully LvG disagrees on the CM, we are currently having to play Fellaini and are still reliant on Carrick who'll be 34 next season. As for the winger, we only have Di Maria and Januzaj as options for the wide attacking roles in a front 3.
No, that's because we urgently need 2 CM's instead of 1.