Who would you like to see Suceed Fergie as manager?

Donaldinho

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Personally, I would like someone from the continent. I've always said this and will continue to say this, that British managers alike, are tactically nieve and uncreative compared to their European counterparts. Don't get me wrong, British managers make good man management managers and are great at building up team spirit and a belief in their team, but they just seem to fall short tactically. An example would be El Tel at Leeds, whom I predicted would do this badly. Same goes with Graham Taylor at Villa too. So to my original point... Who could possibly come in and fill the shoes of Alex? Who could come in and satisfy everyone? You could throw in a few names, like Toppmollér at Leverkusen, Capello, Beckenbaeur, Trappatoni who I think could bring in something different to Old Trafford.
 
It'll be Martin O'Neill imo, perhaps SGE. My preference would be MON though, he has the passion and the character for United and he must be getting bored north of the border.
 
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> I'll reiterate that! If it does end up being a British manager I'll slit my.......No, I'll slit HIS wrists!
But seriously I don't believe British managers have anything to offer, with the exception of Ferguson. Hence, why Arsenal are now successful under a French manager, Liverpool under a French manager too.
 
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
<strong>it'll be david moyes.</strong><hr></blockquote>

David Moyes will need at least another five years to prove himself and even then the job maybe too big for him. Now let's suppose by chance but god forbid, Houllier actually wins a big trophy for the first time at the end of this season, ie the PL, and does quite well in the ECL - say semi finalists, he might just think about applying for a move to United, being a bigger and more famous club, in an attempt to really prove himself. If a vacancy comes up that is!!.
 
Don't get me wrong! I LIKE O'Neill and I think his character can do a lot to the teams he manages, especially lower table teams, but Is celtic really a great test of this man's ability as a manager? I'd like a manager who would come in and encourage us to play a more technique based game that European managers like to adopt. Someone with some real tactical knowledge, as well as some astuteness in the transfer market. I like motivation managers but he has to have a little more than that.
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>But seriously I don't believe British managers have anything to offer, with the exception of Ferguson.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bit harsh when you consider we seem to have reverted to having more British managers than ever (including the full set of ex-England bosses) and the Prem is looking more exciting than ever.
 
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
<strong>it'll be david moyes.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd keep a close eye on him too. He's just right for United and by the time SAF does retire he will have more than enouygh experience under his belt. Did a superb job at Preston with little funding. If he can keep on progressing at Everton he would be a top candidate - but he needs to keep progressing. Look at George Burley. Everyone said he'd be a great manager for a top team - now where is he? Same for Dave Jones.
Another couple of seasons of improvement at Everton and he could be the man. He's big on youth development - he completely changed the set up at Preston during his time there and almost took them to the Premiership. he ran the club from top to bottom - much like SAF when he first took over at United. He's a Scot who takes no nonsense - and ther are precedents for his type at Old Trafford.
Not sure if a foreign manager is what United should go for at all, despite the success of Wenger and Houllier.
 
Yeah, but that's because British managers love to play a lot more long ball stuff that makes the game itself fast paced. I'm really Anti Long ball! It's just unpleasing to the eye. Maybe I'm the only one with this opinion but British managers only ever bring a determined long ball style. That's why despite how exciting Premiership football is, European players always ridicule the way we play (Carew, etc), they recognise that our game despite it's thrilling nature of being fast paced, is often tactically behind that of our European counterparts. Next time you get the chance to watch an English team vs a European team, notice that European teams and players take less touches and always know where their team mates are without having to look up constantly to look for players, and then look at an English team and notice how much more, restrained the play is and disjointed. Maybe I'm being more sceptical because I'm a coach myself at a high level.
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>Yeah, but that's because British managers love to play a lot more long ball stuff </strong><hr></blockquote>

Watched Everton recently? Their problem was playing long ball stuff thinking Duncan Ferguson was up there to win the header then fight for the loose ball. Moyes is keeping it simple, using his players in the right positions and getting the best from a mediocre bunch (save Rooney). I'd love to see what he can do with better players. Pity United didn't get him as assistant when McClaren went to 'Boro, Then again, he needed Premiership managerial experience...
 
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
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David Moyes will need at least another five years to prove himself and even then the job maybe too big for him. Now let's suppose by chance but god forbid, Houllier actually wins a big trophy for the first time at the end of this season, ie the PL, and does quite well in the ECL - say semi finalists, he might just think about applying for a move to United, being a bigger and more famous club, in an attempt to really prove himself. If a vacancy comes up that is!!.</strong><hr></blockquote>

youre kidding surely. houllier wont make himself hated on merseydive for the rest of his days - he's followed the Thieving Minstrels since the 60s anyway. this one's a no-no.
unless the board pull another crazy, i'd expect it to be between MON and SGE.
my own choice would be steve maclaren.
 
Liverpoo play the most obvious long ball game in the Prem, but they're managed by a Frenchman. Taylor has never hid from this tactic either. Beyond that, and especially Man Utd and Arsenal, there's very little evidence of long ball being preferred. Granted European footy sacrifices speed for a more patient build up and more quality on the ball, but its not all down to use of the long ball ...
 
Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
<strong>Liverpoo play the most obvious long ball game in the Prem</strong><hr></blockquote>


simply not true.

to watch you lot lately and see beckham, gary neville and veron in the same team is to watch a LOT of long balls being played. . .
 
Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
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Bit harsh when you consider we seem to have reverted to having more British managers than ever (including the full set of ex-England bosses) and the Prem is looking more exciting than ever.</strong><hr></blockquote>

bobby robson's still a superb manager. mclaren's looking like becoming a top manager, too.

peter reid's available. ;)
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>look at an English team and notice how much more, restrained the play is and disjointed. Maybe I'm being more sceptical because I'm a coach myself at a high level.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's all your fault then ;)
 
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
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to watch you lot lately and see beckham, gary neville and veron in the same team is to watch a LOT of long balls being played. . .</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're right you know. :( Just wish they were all 'long passes' but most of the time they're not.
 
My list, IN ORDER:

1. Ottmar Hitzfeld, he's got it all.

2. Capello, don't let Roma's performance fool you, their squad is very thin and is not allowing Capello to work effectively in their league and ECL.

3. Del Bosque, if you want the ECL only then he's the man.

4. Sven - boring old man, but is very steady.

5. Guus Hiddink - very professional, very diversified and very experienced. he's doing wonders again at PSV so i would not be surprised to see him here soon.
 
In order of preference:

1. Hitzfeld
2. O'Neill
3. Capello
4. Ericsson
5. McClaren

Outsider: Moyes
 
Some of the viewers have said that a european manager might bring a little more tactical astute than a Brit and I totally agree, and this is one reason I personally wouldn't like to see O'Neil get the job. He has done a tremondous job at Celtic, but last year in Europe although they had an unbeaten home record, but in the away game in Portugal against Boavista, his tactics were totally wrong. He also plays a style of football I don't think United fans would relish. Throughout his career he has played a more long ball game with strikers such as Heskey, Sutton, Hartson, etc. You may agrue that he has been successful with this system, but this type of game will never bring success in European football. Also there has been increasingly more positive vibes from Parkhead that he may sign a new contract. I think he has definite goals about getting Celtic into the English league.
 
Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>Some of the viewers have said that a european manager might bring a little more tactical astute than a Brit and I totally agree, and this is one reason I personally wouldn't like to see O'Neil get the job. He has done a tremondous job at Celtic, but last year in Europe although they had an unbeaten home record, but in the away game in Portugal against Boavista, his tactics were totally wrong. He also plays a style of football I don't think United fans would relish. Throughout his career he has played a more long ball game with strikers such as Heskey, Sutton, Hartson, etc. You may agrue that he has been successful with this system, but this type of game will never bring success in European football. Also there has been increasingly more positive vibes from Parkhead that he may sign a new contract. I think he has definite goals about getting Celtic into the English league.</strong><hr></blockquote>

whoever we get, it will be someone who has enormous experience in Europe, i don't think the board will take chances with managers that have unproven or poor records in Europe.. Celtic scored their way to a couple of titles in the past year, but they still have not had even minimum success in Europe.

even if Celtic does win the UEFA cup this season, i still wouldn't feel O'Neill is ready for the job. i think someone else said this, and i agree, that O'Neill will need about 5 more years of top club management before even qualifying to become a candidate.
 
I liked the Brazillian national team manager, i watched the way he brought Brazil along through qualifying etc i thought he was very smart in the way he did it. I dont know what he's doing now or whether he could do a job in the prem but someone to think about anyway...
 
Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
<strong>Liverpoo play the most obvious long ball game in the Prem, but they're managed by a Frenchman. Taylor has never hid from this tactic either. Beyond that, and especially Man Utd and Arsenal, there's very little evidence of long ball being preferred. Granted European footy sacrifices speed for a more patient build up and more quality on the ball, but its not all down to use of the long ball ...</strong><hr></blockquote>

It hasn't been the case for decades. Sure you'll always have your odd club playing a safe get it up the park type game, but for the most part English clubs don't play the long ball like some continentals would have you beleive.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
[QB]My list, IN ORDER:

1. Ottmar Hitzfeld, he's got it all.

[QB]<hr></blockquote>

I agree with Hitzfield. When Fergie retired, United should try their best to sign him.
His record says it all, and I really like the way he command respect from his players. Munich, before he arrived is a disgrace. Not in the term of quality, but in team spirit and unity.
But he managed to turn it around and made the won the Bundesliga again. United superstar players need someone with this quality.
 
Maclaren would do for me, has all the importnat attributes for the job. Knows the players and the club, has reasonable experience (by the time SAF leaves) and has proved a good coach wherever he's gone.
 
Originally posted by reelworld:
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I agree with Hitzfield. When Fergie retired, United should try their best to sign him.
His record says it all, and I really like the way he command respect from his players. Munich, before he arrived is a disgrace. Not in the term of quality, but in team spirit and unity.
But he managed to turn it around and made the won the Bundesliga again. United superstar players need someone with this quality.</strong><hr></blockquote>

exactly.. the respect he commands from his players is sky high..

he is the only other person i know of that also completed a hat trick of "ECL, domestic league, and domestic cup"

he would relish the chance of completing 2 hat tricks with two different clubs and i think this will be the main indication of how much he will be committed to taking this club places.

He will get all my votes come poll time after SAF steps down.
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>Maclaren would do for me, has all the importnat attributes for the job. Knows the players and the club, has reasonable experience (by the time SAF leaves) and has proved a good coach wherever he's gone.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree that McClaren is a good manager.. but i think he lacks management ability in the Europe.. he only coached us when went on this.. but never managed the team.. IMO there's a big difference.. remember he's only managing Boro in the league.. if they qualify for Europe next year, then we should get a clearer picture of how he will do at United. Although i really doubt McClaren will have enough time to prove himself as SAF could be stepping down sooner than everyone thinks.

Despite all that i said, it does help that McClaren knows our players so well, so i would expect him to be among the top candidates anyway.
 
The crucial issue is when will Fergie's successor be required to take up his post. If it is , as I think, at the end of this season, then people like McClaren, O'Neill and certainly David Moyes will be excluded due to lack of experience. If it is in two seasons time, meaning that Fergie has managed to regenerate that old magic and restored United to its rightful place at the top, then the field may be a lot wider. In the short term it seems that Hitzfeld, Capello and maybe SGE would be the leading candidates.
 
Who ever it is the plan should be for someone to manage the team long-term. They should be given an open-ended contract until 2010. Stability will be what is needed when the great man retires. So the board will have to be 100% behind the new man with no wavering at all if times get tough. IMO.
 
Originally posted by Rory 7:
<strong>Who ever it is the plan should be for someone to manage the team long-term. They should be given an open-ended contract until 2010. Stability will be what is needed when the great man retires. So the board will have to be 100% behind the new man with no wavering at all if times get tough. IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, I doubt the Board will agree to that in case something goes wrong. Also the incumbent might not want to be tied down to such a high pressure existence for such a long period. Age obviously comes into it. Having said that in this business people seem to break contracts whenever it suits them !
 
Roy Keane! :)
Just read the book! (Ok so I have a life too)
What a gr8 manager he would make! Kick some ass Roy it is the only way! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
Originally posted by dicko:
<strong>Mick McCarthy did well with a poor Irish side. He's now available. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

:eek:

Can you imagine it!
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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:eek:

Can you imagine it!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Mick WHO?!?!?!

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Originally posted by SheDevil777:
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Mick WHO?!?!?!

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Not quite Liv's point methinks . . .
 
Originally posted by RedorDead6899:
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Not quite Liv's point methinks . . .</strong><hr></blockquote>

Indeed. Or indeed not I should say.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Indeed. Or indeed not I should say.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oops! Sorry! That wasn't what I meant really........no offence! not very good at this malarky! But I am learning........slowly!

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Chalk another one up for Hitzfeld.

Maybe mathias Sammer in a couple of years too. he's really taken to management and he can still relate to today's players well. Not sure about his English though, but then we have survived this long with Fergie. :D