Who will be leaving in 2015?

sun_tzu said:
I don't mind... Its not like we are competing with them in the league or cl so if he can get games then it can only help hisdevelopment.
That said I'm not sure how many games he would get as they have moura?
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Dunno how much he would play tbh, but if we make the loan fee high enough then it should force their arm to give him some game time.

Would just be nice to see him play in his proper position, in a system that suits him, then we can see if he can actually develop into the superstar he looks/looked he could be.
 
First of all I think we can't look at individual players. For example the situation of Young depends on the Situation at CB. I don't rate him as a winger but did a great job as wingback. If we have enough fit defender, Blackett, Blind and Rojo are enough to cover for Shaw. I expect us anyway to play a back 4 long term. Otherwise I look at itlike this

Hernandez - loved him but won't be a starter so better he moves on as he is not happy as super sub..

Nani - was frustrating with us, performed for Sporting, expect him to be frustrating again if he returns. We should move on! Wouthout him!

Zaha - another loan in the Championship if there is still have hope he can come good.

Cleverley - thanks he is gone!

Fellaini - Keep him if he is happy as impact player or backup. Won't be starter long term but with the sqaud depth in midfield I'd keep him unless we sign 2 new CM.

Evans - always struggeling with confidence. When on a run of games and on high confidence a good defender but almost never long enough fit the get into such a run.

Young - see above

Anderson - no comment

Fletcher - great servant to club but unfortunately, with any sentiment, should make way for youth. Still love seeing him play in a United shirt. Great comeback and nerver say die attitude. Role model in any aspect! Glad that I don't have to make such a decision of his future!
 
Young has earned his place in the team fair and square, we should not be looking to offload him after his season's performances, it'd be unfair to him.
 
wouldn't be too upset to see anyone leave aside from De Gea, Di Maria and Rooney.

The rest I think have 6months to prove they belong
 
Hopefully Van Gaal.

Call me a cynic/pessimist/sensationalist or an idiot, but I am done.
 
We need to tweak the shape of our attack to 4-3-3 IMO, I'd say today put the nail in the coffin for Falcao's hopes of a permanent move and next season RvP will be in his last year and should be more of a bench option. That will allow us to play Rooney up top with Di Maria right of him and a new signing left of him.

In the midfield Carrick and Blind will share the #6 role with Blind also being able to fill in elsewhere when we get our inevitable injuries. That leaves us with the need for 4 box to to box CM's. I think 2 from Hererra/Fellaini/Mata will stay and one will be sold and we'll bring in two.

So despite some of the above posts I still think Evans, one of Mata or Fellaini, and the players already out on loan will be our only exits.
 
Jerch said:
Whole squad. Am i doing this right?
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Insanity said:
Hopefully Van Gaal.

Call me a cynic/pessimist/sensationalist or an idiot, but I am done.
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You two are a fecking joke.yeah we lost, 10 game unbeaten including wins over liverpool,arsenal and Southampton,then the first loss van gaal needs to go and the whole squad needs to be sold.

Embarrassing.
 
Players who should be gone no matter what:

Chicha
Cleverley
Anderson
Fletcher

Players who should go IF we bring replacements:

Young/Valencia
Evans
 
I didn't want to start a new thread on this so while searching for one to post in I figured this was as good as any other, I've been thinking about the amount of players we've got rid of post Fergie - Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Fabio, Giggs, Welbeck, Hernandez, Nani, Anderson, Fletcher, Cleverly & Zaha (ok some of these so far have only been let go on loan but I can't imagine they've got much future here now). While I do think it's good so much of the 'deadwood' has been let go (and if we're all honest we should probably add Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Evans & Rafael to the hit list as well) and while the lack of games this season hasn't required a huge squad (although injuries would argue that) I do wonder if we're leaving ourselves short for next season when we'll hopefully not only be back in Europe but also challenging for the title?

Players in post Fergie so far are Fellaini, Mata, Shaw, Herrera, Di Maria, Blind & Rojo (we'll ignore Valdes and Falcao as one is just replacing another backup keeper and one probably won't be here long term) that means we can probably say 12 out 7 in, requiring 5 in the summer to 'break even' (without any further departures which we surely can't really afford given we're unlikely to sign more than 5).

So yeah no real question just something I wanted to get out there
 
Anderson - Has to be top of everyone's list.
Fletcher - Obviously on the radar of other teams, can't match his pre-illness form.
Evans - Turns out he isn't as good as Smalling/Jones, so he's the first Centreback out I reckon.
Zaha - Gone already I believe?
Cleverley - Basically gone anyway.
Hernandez - Isn't going to fit if we keep all of our current strikers.
De Gea - Real Madrid will pry him away if they really want him.

Powell, Januzaj/Mata, Lindegaard, Young, Falcao, Amos, Nani are all maybes for me. I can't see Powell making much impact, while I can see one of Januzaj/Mata leaving (or perhaps just a loan in Januzaj's case). Falcao is touch and go depending on how well he does in the rest of the season and if a price closer to £30m can be agreed. Lindegaard might stay a bit longer if de Gea goes and his only competition is Valdes. Young is replaceable of course, but we might have to cope for a bit longer with Young/Valencia as back-up full-backs/wing-backs... They're not as bad as most people say though and I think they're content with being substitutes if it means staying at United which is good to have. Amos is older than Johnstone and still going on loan as well - I think LvG would rather keep the younger of the two in the squad. Nani is one I just can't make my mind up on...

So, like most fans on here, I do think we're in for a second-stage major clear out in the Summer. The signings will probably have to include a CB, winger, and striker if Falcao doesn't stay as the bare minimum. But we'll probably need another full back and another midfield player, with possibly another goalkeeper (though I think Valdes being no.1 for a season or two and Lindegaard staying is the more likely scenario).

Valdes, Lindegaard, Johnstone
Rafael, Shaw, Valencia, Young
Jones, Rojo, Smalling, Blackett, McNair
Carrick, Blind, Fellaini, Herrera
Di Maria, Mata, Januzaj, Rooney, Nani
van Persie, Falcao, Wilson

Add a CB, Full Back, Winger... Probably won't be too far off.
 
It's probably easier to say who's definitely going to be here at the end of the summer window.

I would only be confident that Valdes, Rojo, Shaw, Carrick, Blind, Di Maria and Rooney will definitely stay - the rest of them could all leave for differing reasons.

I'm not saying the rest will all leave in the summer, but I could see different scenarios whereby each of the players I've excluded from above leave, mainly dependent on who we bring in.

It seems remarkable that we are in a position where there are genuine question marks over 2/3 of our first team squad, given our squad stability under Fergie.
 
There is no question mark over 2/3 of the squad other than what the media and some of you invent.
 
ForlansHair said:
It's probably easier to say who's definitely going to be here at the end of the summer window.

I would only be confident that Valdes, Rojo, Shaw, Carrick, Blind, Di Maria and Rooney will definitely stay - the rest of them could all leave for differing reasons.

I'm not saying the rest will all leave in the summer, but I could see different scenarios whereby each of the players I've excluded from above leave, mainly dependent on who we bring in.

It seems remarkable that we are in a position where there are genuine question marks over 2/3 of our first team squad, given our squad stability under Fergie.
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Good post, and I completely agree. I'd add James Wilson in as someone who will be here as well though, not sure if you were counting him or not.

This is going to be a massive summer. I think he'll try to get it all done before the tour as well.
 
It's mad we seem to have lost loads of players since LvG came in, but there are plenty who could go in the summer:

Hernandez, Evans, Lindegaard, Amos, Young, one of Valencia, or Nani, one of Smalling, or Jones, then I would say we could lose one or two of our star players, De Gea, Mata, RvP, Herrera, and Fellaini probably most at risk.
 
charlenefan said:
I didn't want to start a new thread on this so while searching for one to post in I figured this was as good as any other, I've been thinking about the amount of players we've got rid of post Fergie - Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Fabio, Giggs, Welbeck, Hernandez, Nani, Anderson, Fletcher, Cleverly & Zaha (ok some of these so far have only been let go on loan but I can't imagine they've got much future here now). While I do think it's good so much of the 'deadwood' has been let go (and if we're all honest we should probably add Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Evans & Rafael to the hit list as well) and while the lack of games this season hasn't required a huge squad (although injuries would argue that) I do wonder if we're leaving ourselves short for next season when we'll hopefully not only be back in Europe but also challenging for the title?

Players in post Fergie so far are Fellaini, Mata, Shaw, Herrera, Di Maria, Blind & Rojo (we'll ignore Valdes and Falcao as one is just replacing another backup keeper and one probably won't be here long term) that means we can probably say 12 out 7 in, requiring 5 in the summer to 'break even' (without any further departures which we surely can't really afford given we're unlikely to sign more than 5).

So yeah no real question just something I wanted to get out there
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We don't have to break even in terms of number of players in vs out. We had a bloated squad already so a trim was needed. Also if we can have some youngsters step up no need to buy to fill spots
 
Hernandez,Nani,Cleverley and Lindegaard are as good as gone.Amos will leave.I do think one of Mata/Herrera won't play for us next season.Evans and Rafael probably will be sold.Falcao big question marks.That's it for me.

These lots going won't affect us much in terms of number especially the former 4 so I can only see 5 signings at max (a RB,a CB, a CM or AM,striker if Falcao doesn't stay and maybe a winger).We should go for quality instead of mere quantity and a couple of younger lads like Pereira and co might step up.Would love to see Pereira,Lingard and Pearson to be given some roles next season.
 
khoazany said:
Hernandez,Nani,Cleverley and Lindegaard are as good as gone.Amos will leave.I do think one of Mata/Herrera won't play for us next season.Evans and Rafael probably will be sold.Falcao big question marks.
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I roughly agree with that. There are several who I would like to stay - Nani, Herrera and Rafael being the prime candidates, but for one reason or another it seems at present that LVG doesnt rate them.

I think the squad is highly unbalanced so we will need to lose some of the strikers and #10s. Falcao I think is almost certain to go (or RVP), at least one of Mata and Herrera. I suspect LVG might hang onto Fellaini simply because he offers something different, and options are always useful to have in a squad.

I am concerned about the situations regarding De Gea and Januzaj however I must admit. Those are arguably our two highest priority players to keep, but there is a lot of talk and rumour about both of them leaving.
 
Walrus said:
I roughly agree with that. There are several who I would like to stay - Nani, Herrera and Rafael being the prime candidates, but for one reason or another it seems at present that LVG doesnt rate them.

I think the squad is highly unbalanced so we will need to lose some of the strikers and #10s. Falcao I think is almost certain to go (or RVP), at least one of Mata and Herrera. I suspect LVG might hang onto Fellaini simply because he offers something different, and options are always useful to have in a squad.

I am concerned about the situations regarding De Gea and Januzaj however I must admit. Those are arguably our two highest priority players to keep, but there is a lot of talk and rumour about both of them leaving.
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Januzaj just signed a new contract so we decide if we want to keep him or not and I think we will unless someone like PSG came in with a ridiculous offer, De Gea on the other hand Im more skeptical, Losing him is one thing which will be a big blow, losing him on the cheap because he only has 1 season left on his contract to the rich fckers Madrid is sickening, if they want him it should be a record sum for a keeper, I was thinking 50m or so but why not more, why not 80m ? You have to pay that for world class players and because World class keeper are hard to come by surely it should be the same if not more for De Gea
 
Jando said:
Januzaj just signed a new contract so we decide if we want to keep him or not and I think we will unless someone like PSG came in with a ridiculous offer, De Gea on the other hand Im more skeptical, Losing him is one thing which will be a big blow, losing him on the cheap because he only has 1 season left on his contract to the rich fckers Madrid is sickening, if they want him it should be a record sum for a keeper, I was thinking 50m or so but why not more, why not 80m ? You have to pay that for world class players and because World class keeper are hard to come by surely it should be the same if not more for De Gea
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I agree regarding De Gea. As for Januzaj... I dont know, his lack of gametime this season has been worrying. Regardless of his contract situation, if LVG doesnt rate Januzaj that highly then its irrelevant. There have been rumours (shite rumours, but still) that we would use Januzaj in part exchange for Marquinhos or Coleman, for instance.
 
I actually wouldn't mind Hernandez returning. Assuming Falcao doesnt suddenly go on a crazy scoring spree he won't be staying and Hernandez has proven to be an effective back up striker. He also has speed whixh we're missing in attack. If a bid in excess of £15m comes in then sure let him go, if not I'd keep him assuming he's happy to be back up to Rooney and RVP.

I don't think it will ever work out with Nani here. His inconsistency is one thing (quite badly exaggerated in some quarters if you ask me), the fans just dont like him. His poor attitude when the referee doesn't give him what he wants turned fans against him so that every bad game he has is amplified. That's not good for us or him. Better for everyone if he moves on. Could have made it here if he wasn't such a brat, its not because of lack of talent that he didn't.
 
Jones. I for one would be happy to see him go. Not progressed and don't rate him anymore.
 
Lash said:
Jones. I for one would be happy to see him go. Not progressed and don't rate him anymore.
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Thirded.

When you look at the injury records of our defenders, two incoming centre backs are ideal IMO. Which means two of our senior centre backs should make way. Evans should be a certainty to leave as he has regressed/peaked and is the worst of the quartet; Rojo is constantly improving and our left-footer which van Gaal requires in his back four, so it basically means a straight shoot-out between Jones and Smalling. As far as I'm concerned that would be a very easy decision - Smalling is a far better defender - so Jones goes.
 
Glanville95 said:
Thirded.

When you look at the injury records of our defenders, two incoming centre backs are ideal IMO. Which means two of our senior centre backs should make way. Evans should be a certainty to leave as he has regressed/peaked and is the worst of the quartet; Rojo is constantly improving and our left-footer which van Gaal requires in his back four, so it basically means a straight shoot-out between Jones and Smalling. As far as I'm concerned that would be a very easy decision - Smalling is a far better defender - so Jones goes.
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Exactly, Smalling, despite his sending off, has been reasonably solid throughout the season. Jones is so erratic and I genuinely cant say he is any better than when he joined. I know he's young, but it doesn't look like he's going to improve here, he's better and we're better off with him somewhere else.
 
Wouldn't be surprised to see Di Maria go. His wife is completely unsettled now, after the break in and is refusing to go back to the house so they've moved into a hotel and they've got a Utd security guard with them wherever they go. That's no way to live and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he moved on.
 
soapythecat said:
Herrera will be sold. God knows what he is or isn't doing in training, but he clearly doesn't fit in the philosophy.
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Do you not feel that he perhaps isn't being played due to him currently being in court accused of match fixing? This has gone largely unnoticed (due to the ruling that the press can't print or talk about current court proceedings).

I'm pretty sure if I felt I was going to prison it would affect my training amongst other things.

 
Rednotdead said:
Wouldn't be surprised to see Di Maria go. His wife is completely unsettled now, after the break in and is refusing to go back to the house so they've moved into a hotel and they've got a Utd security guard with them wherever they go. That's no way to live and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he moved on.
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That would be extreme to say the least. He won't leave due to that. She's also very aware that United are paying him (and his family) very handsomely to play for us and I'm sure they wouldn't fancy unsettling everything for a move somewhere else. She'll get over, he'll buy a bigger house with more security. If this was the 10th break in I may be inclined to agree with you.
 
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If he comes through this court case, he will be fine. In a way I can understand people saying about Di Maria though. I am not sure he wanted to be here in the first place and these idiots might have just given him the excuse to move on. Evans and Jones are the most at risk to me and even maybe Rafael if he thinks he can get better.
 
Rednotdead said:
Wouldn't be surprised to see Di Maria go. His wife is completely unsettled now, after the break in and is refusing to go back to the house so they've moved into a hotel and they've got a Utd security guard with them wherever they go. That's no way to live and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he moved on.
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I assume he lives in Cheshire? I'm sure it feels like a ghetto compared to Where he hails from in Argentina.
 
My opinion (for what it's worth):

Lindegaard: Sub keepers generally sacrifice 4 to 5 years of their career before the move on.
Jones: Hasn't progressed, hampered by injuries.
Evans: Seems to have regressed when given the duty of being United's most senior CB.
Cleverly: Free contract if he's not gone already.
Mata/Herrera or Januzaj: Same type of player so one of them will have to make way or learn to play on the wing.
Van Persie: Hasn't performed well since Fergie retired.
Falcao: Not worth the money Mendes wants for him. Will end up in Italy.

Others (maybe not this summer but short on time):

Nani: Will get a season to prove himself if we can't find a buyer.
Fellani: Offers a different option but will go when we can secure Strootman or a similar type of player.
Young/Valencia: The second we can secure better wingers they will both be moved on.
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
You say that, but didn't Lee Bowyer play some of his best football both prior to and during court appearance?
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Any post that has the word 'Lee Bowyer' and 'play his best football' in is surely a wind-up?

In all seriousness, I think that speaks more volumes about a man that believed beating someone up because they were a different race was completely justified.
 
crossy1686 said:
That would be extreme to say the least. He won't leave due to that. She's also very aware that United are paying him (and his family) very handsomely to play for us and I'm sure they wouldn't fancy unsettling everything for a move somewhere else. She'll get over, he'll buy a bigger house with more security. If this was the 10th break in I may be inclined to agree with you.
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Are you married? ;)
 
Who I hope will leave:

Fellaini
Smalling
Evans
Cleverley
Chicharito
Young
Falcao
Blackett
(Maybe: Valencia)

Who I think will leave:

Rafael
Herrera
Nani
Cleverley
Chicharito
Evans
(Mata?)
(DDG?)
 
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