Who will be leaving in 2015?

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I think it's likely that we will have another big summer window. Three or four more top quality additions will really put us in a strong position on all fronts.

So who will be leaving and will we getting any money for them?

Already on loan:

Hernandez -
Will be off surely? But where? Does he even get a kick at Madrid? Cold be get £10m for him?

Nani -
Doing well at Sporting supposedly but they already ruled out a permanent move as "impossible". High wages make him unattractive to teams at his level imo.

Cleverley -
Won't he be out of contract when his loan ends?

Others:

Fellaini - Wouldn't get half our money back. Don't think he will go but if someone came ib for him at a reasonable price I reckon we'd sell.

Evans - Others have suggested he may go.

Young - isn't he out of contract in the summer?

Anderson, Fletcher - Out of contact in summer. Surely retirement or lower league.

Hopefully frees up some wages but I don't think we would raise much in way of fees from any of these.
 
I wouldn't sell Fellaini for less than £15m. He's shown great form this season, and if he's not going to be a squad player for us, he could easily be a pivotal starting player for many mid-table teams, just as he was for Everton.
 
In addition to the ones in the OP, Zaha will probably be dispensed with. I imagine Powell will be shown the door too. Lindegaard seems like he'll be off as well.

The big question is whether we can hang on to De Gea.
 
Cleverley, Anderson, Fletcher for sure. Maybe one of Powell and Zaha. Nani and Chicha only if we get a good offer for them, otherwise they might do a job here - next year we will be in the CL and probably have a longer run in the League Cup - we will need a bigger squad.
 
Anderson, fletcher, nani, Hernandez, lindegaard and Cleverley will all go.

Powell, zaha, henriquez, fellaini, mata, Evans, Rafael, m Keane and falcao probably all have question marks against them depending on how they perform and what alternatives are available.
 
Rafael: I like him and don't want him to go but I get the feeling that van Gaal doesn't rate him and there have been a lot of rumours another right back will come in and perhaps Valencia will be the cover.

Evans: I've already said on many occasions why we should get rid so I won't repeat myself. Once we get a top centre half he'll just be a passenger and we don't need those.

Lindegaard: Out of contract this summer, I'm sure he wants regular football and he's definitely not going to get that here. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he left before this window closes.

Hernandez: Clearly not part of van Gaal's plans, I reckon we can get about £12 million for him. I hope we sell him abroad rather than to another Premier League club.

Powell: The lad apparently has an attitude problem and has not impressed whilst out on loan at either a Championship team (Wigan) or at Leicester. If he can't get a regular spot in their teams then what chance has he got of getting into ours? I've said it before and I'll say it again I wouldn't be at all surprised if he ends up back at Crewe.

Cleverley: Average Premier League player at best. I really hope Villa sign him on a permanent deal and he doesn't decide to run his contract down in the hope of getting a more lucrative deal elsewhere.

Fletcher: He's been a good player and a very loyal servant to this club but unfortunately he's had his day at the highest level. I don't think we should offer him a new contract and let him leave this summer with our best wishes in seeking regular football.

Anderson: We should've got rid of him three years ago, I can't believe he's been here as long as he has. The club must've been actively looking to sell him but clearly no club can afford or are willing to pay his presumably high wages. He will go back to Brazil this summer.

Zaha: One of the most strangest signings I've ever seen in my time of supporting the club. He was barely given a chance here but like Powell he apparently has an attitude problem and has been in and out of a relegation threatened Crystal Palace team.

Nani: I'm glad he's doing well at Sporting Lisbon, hopefully plenty of good European clubs will be interested in buying him. A good player on his day but unfortunately his day is 1 in 10 matches if that.

Henriquez: Has an option to buy on his deal with Dinamo. If they can afford to buy him then I'm sure they will without question given his goal scoring form for them.
 
Hernandez, Fletcher, Nani, Evans, Cleverley, Anderson, Lindegaard probably, Zaha, and Powell

Bring in a few players to replace them, make a few others just squad players from the current crop to increase the overall quality. Lindegaard is in there because I think he'll eventually want to leave to be a starting keeper somewhere as I doubt he'll want to be a #2 here forever, though he can stay if he wants as he's more then capable. The others just aren't good enough apart from Nani who could still be a top player here, but I just think it's best for both to go our separate ways.
 
Young he be 30 by the start of next season, time to bring in a younger and better player
Valencia, same as young
Fletcher, just not good enough
Nani, can do something out of nothing but they're to few and far between
Zaha, just to lazy
Hernandez, should be starting games not being a 4th choice player
Henriquez, same as Hernandez
Evans, just not good enough
Powell, not kicked on enough
Anderson
Cleverley
Lindegaard, victor Valdes to replace him
 
I would like to see leave,

Anderson - total waster should've left ages ago
fletcher - due to illness a shadow of the player he was
nani - undecided tbh if he can become consistent then he may be worth keeping
Hernandez - if he's prepared to be a bench player then we should keep him for added depth
Cleverley - like Anderson just a total waster
Zaha - never should've signed him he is lower prem/championship quality at best
Powell - same as Zaha
Evans - worst CB we have get rid ASAP.
 
I think Fellaini will be kept as a backup/rotation/supersub, he has done relatively well and we dont have a huge amount of options at CM.
 
I don't see Hernandez, Nani or Zaha returning from loan other than briefly before they are sold, and I can't imagine we'd give Anderson and Fletcher new deals. Cleverley is already gone, it's just a case of whether he stays with Villa or tries engineering a move elsewhere once the loan is up and he's a free agent.

I think LvG will bring in a top CB and Evans surely has to be the one from the Senior 4 that is sold.

The rest is more difficult as we are currently playing with a front square and no pace as well as a lack of power. I think LvG needs to decide ideally what he wants to do with Rooney positionally and then work from there. I could see 2 from Mata, Fellaini, Falcao and RvP leaving this summer to free up room for some more varied midfield and forward options.
 
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Youngs contract runs until 2016 so I don't think he will be leaving. He's been one of our better players recently and he offers versatility. Cleverley, Anderson, Zaha and Nani will all most likely be shipped out. Not too sure about the likes of Evans and Fellaini.
 
Hernandez will go. Possibly to another Spanish side. I've read Twitter rumours linking him to AC Milan as well. Unless he's happy being a squad player at Madrid and Madrid are willing to pay £10-15million for him, he could end up there.

Anderson will go. No idea where. Is he even still a footballer? Does he train? Does he play for the reserves? Who on earth is going to want to pay him to barely play football? I really wanted him to do well. Even after 5 years of meandering, I still wanted him to just kick on. I have no idea how he has been here so long.

I think Evans could go, based on performances. He's not kicked on, and given his age, he should be in his prime years. I'd play Smalling, Jones and Rojo ahead of him. I'd be hard pushed to even pick him ahead of McNair. It will be interesting to know if Van Gaal rates him.

I think the rest will stay. I think Van Gaal really values Fellaini and Young, and I can't see him wanting to lose either of them. Fletcher, I don't know. He's vice captain and he is nearly always in the squad. Perhaps he is valued in the squad for a bit more than just minutes on the pitch. It will be interesting to see if he is kept in some capacity, perhaps as a coach. Given his age, I think he should go away and play some more football before calling time on his playing career. I think he's got enough about him to keep playing. Just maybe not here.

Cleverley's already gone really. His contract here will expire in the Summer. I can't see the club resigning him. I hope he goes on to have a decent career somewhere though.
 
Anderson, Cleverely, zaha, powell, lindegaard, fletcher, evans and depends on the falcao situation whether we sell Hernandez or not.
 
Fellaini will go. He's a stop gap until we bring in another midfielder who shares his qualities (physical, strong, hard tackler, direct threat) but not his weaknesses (limitations with the ball, can be a slouch, not a top level box to box as he's made out). Strootman probably, Vidal unlikely, Schneiderlin?

No good having a 27m squad player when his only likely action would be cups, Stoke away. No good for his career either. Hopefully keep up his good season so far and then he'll be able to look people in the eye about his United career.
 
Could be another high turnover again I reckon.

Lindergard- £4m
Rafael-£8m
Evans- £3m
Young- If out of contract free, the guys on stupid wages as far as I remember, if not £5m
Anderson- Free
Fellaini - £18m
Fletcher- Free
Cleverley- Free
Nani - £12m
Hernandez £14m
Powell- £2m
Zaha-£5
And one of RvP, Mata, or Janujaz -£15m , £24 m ,£20 m respectively.

Safe bet all these won't go but wouldn't mind betting most will be on the market depending how things go until end of season.
 
Hernandez - whoever wants him, should have a few suitors.

Cleverley - hopefully to Villa this window but probably a free in the summer.

Anderson - who cares.

Fletcher - He'll move or retire.

Young - We will sort our fullback cover out and move him on.

Valencia - Same as Young.

Nani - A better wing option to Valencia and Young, I think he'll get a chance here next year.

Fellaini - Will stay and be a squad player.

Zaha- Gone.

Powell - Gone.

Evans - weakest senior defender by far. Will be replaced by a first choice quality player.

Blackett - won't have a future here beyond new signings.


Huge turnover once again, I think we'll probably outspend last summer too.
 
Nani, Hernandez, Valencia, Evans, Zaha and Fellaini sold, hopefully should get 35-40m for the lot.

Cleverley, Anderson and Fletcher released.

Wouldn't be averse to keeping Nani, especially since we have poor options on the wings and we'd be unlikely to get more than about 8m. Can see Young being given a 2 year extension or something, but he'll be gone before he's 30. Tide us over until the summer after, that sort of thing.
 
I think LvG will be having serious thoughts as to Phil Jones United future.

There's got to be serious doubts as to his footballing intelligence, gives away too many fouls for me.

He's a bit of a throwback, a modern day Terry Butcher. Can look magnificent on his day, but I don't think he has the all round game to thrive at the very top level today.
 
It's piss-easy to name players that we all know are all going anyway. What our club needs is pace and future, so out of RVP, Falcao, Rooney and Mata I would keep only one. Rooney probably, and spend the fees and wages of the others on faster and younger guys.
 
Could be another high turnover again I reckon.

Lindergard- £4m
Rafael-£8m
Evans- £3m
Young- If out of contract free, the guys on stupid wages as far as I remember, if not £5m
Anderson- Free
Fellaini - £18m
Fletcher- Free
Cleverley- Free
Nani - £12m
Hernandez £14m
Powell- £2m
Zaha-£5
And one of RvP, Mata, or Janujaz -£15m , £24 m ,£20 m respectively.

Safe bet all these won't go but wouldn't mind betting most will be on the market depending how things go until end of season.
These are some bargain basement prices, mate. Here are may evaluations on these players:

Lindergard- (£4m) - seems about right
Rafael-(£8m)- no way he is getting sold, but if he is he should fetch at least £12-15m
Evans- (£3m)- I doubt it he will get sold, but if he is he should fetch at least £7-8m
Young-(free or £5m)- I doubt it he will get sold, but if he is he should fetch at least £12-15m
Anderson- (Free) - no complaints here
Fellaini - (£18m) - seems about right, but I think he will stay
Fletcher- (Free) - agree
Cleverley- (Free) - I think we will get at least £5m for him in January, if not than I agree
Nani - (£12m) - he should fetch at least £15-20m, if not he should stay
Hernandez (£14m) - this seems about right
Powell- (£2m) - I think we will sell him, if someone offers £5-6m, for £2m it's probably not worth selling him
Zaha-(£5) - I think we will sell him, if someone offers around £10m, otherwise keep loaning him
RvP-(£15m) - no way, he is staying, unless we get £25m+ and we have signed another top, top striker
Mata (£24m) - no way, he is staying
Janujaz (£20m)- that's just crazy talk - he will stay at least another 5 years here; if by the time he is 24-25 he hasn't claimed a first team place, than maybe we will sell him (like Welbeck)
 
I think Evans, Anderson, Lindegaard, Hernandez, Nani, Powell, Cleverley, Fletcher & Zaha will all go for the reasons most people have given.

Blackett, Lingard & Michael Keane will all go on loan along with a few others from the reserves. Falcao all depends on him staying injury free and I do think we will buy him in the summer.

Then there are players who will be kept but need to step up in order to still be with us in 2016 including:

Rafael- Still not over his injuries, needs to hold down the right back spot or he risks facing the chop. 12/13 showed the player he can be, it's down to him now to get back to that standard.

Jones- Likewise, needs to show he's more than just potential. Hasn't been helped with being played at right back like Smalling but he still makes too many basic errors and uses the last ditch lunge to get out of trouble.

Mata- We've not seen enough of the player that was outstanding for Chelsea a few years ago. Still goes missing in games sometimes and we have several players who can step into that sort of 'free role' behind one or two strikers such as Rooney, Di Maria and Herrera.

Smalling- I think he's our best centre back but he also has fitness issues. That said, I do think he'll make it here and his distribution does look to be improving slightly and he's seems less panicky when being pressed recently too.

van Persie- Our joint top scorer this season but his overall play has been very poor at times. He got 15 assists in his first season along with all those goals but has only contributed 6 I think since Moyes took over. Hopefully he'll pick up the second half of the season, shake off some of his post World Cup rustiness and stay injury free because he's a class player on top form. May have competition from Falcao again next year and will be 32 in August.

Fellaini- Been much better this year but will need to continue this if he's to stick around now he has players like Herrera, Blind and the established Carrick all wanting game time.

Young & Valencia are being mentioned but I think both be around for a couple of seasons yet. Young has improved enough to probably earn a new contract and Valencia may be uninspiring and a shadow of the player he was, but apart from the leg break in 2010 he's never injured for long periods so he may still be a useful cover player for right back and midfield. We have players with more talent than these two, but both work their arses off for 90 minutes in games for us.

Edit: That said I still would like to see us buy another right back in the summer.
 
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We are not going to clear as many first team players as people think.

Anderson: Free
Hernandez: 10-15m
Powell: 2-4m
Zaha: 5-10m
Fletcher: Free
Cleverley : 5-7m
Evans: 5m
Nani: 10-15m (if sold)
 
Rather we keep Chica as Wilson is not a proven goal scorer and I dont see much in Wilson.

Nani - if he can stay injury free... worth the keep.
 
These are some bargain basement prices, mate. Here are may evaluations on these players:
RvP-(£15m) - no way, he is staying, unless we get £25m+ and we have signed another top, top striker
Mata (£24m) - no way, he is staying

RvP will be 32 at the start of next season, is past his best and will only have 1 year left on his contract, no way anyone pays £25M for him. As for Mata, if we are looking to reinforce the attack with some much needed pace and add Strootman to midfield then we need to balance that out at some point with sales, Mata is one of the few we'd get a decent price for and who'd be most effected by those brought in.
 
RvP will be 32 at the start of next season, is past his best and will only have 1 year left on his contract, no way anyone pays £25M for him. As for Mata, if we are looking to reinforce the attack with some much needed pace and add Strootman to midfield then we need to balance that out at some point with sales, Mata is one of the few we'd get a decent price for and who'd be most effected by those brought in.
RVP will play at a high level for another 3-4 years - we will gain nothing by selling him for only £15M - we will start renewing his contract on a yearly basis until he decides to call it a day.
Mata is currently our only #10, Strootman is not a like for like replacement - I'm pretty sure he will stay.
 
RVP will play at a high level for another 3-4 years - we will gain nothing by selling him for only £15M - we will start renewing his contract on a yearly basis until he decides to call it a day.
Mata is currently our only #10, Strootman is not a like for like replacement - I'm pretty sure he will stay.

He doesn't look like a player with another 3-4 years at the top level to me, and if we sold him it would almost certainly mean we'd have bought Falcao and would be moving Rooney back to playing as a forward, so £15M for a 32 year old wouldn't be bad business at all. I don't really consider Mata a #10, he's more like a second striker and you don't need a #10 as a necessity, especially in LvG's favoured 4-3-3.
 
These are some bargain basement prices, mate. Here are may evaluations on these players:

Lindergard- (£4m) - seems about right
Rafael-(£8m)- no way he is getting sold, but if he is he should fetch at least £12-15m
Evans- (£3m)- I doubt it he will get sold, but if he is he should fetch at least £7-8m
Young-(free or £5m)- I doubt it he will get sold, but if he is he should fetch at least £12-15m
Anderson- (Free) - no complaints here
Fellaini - (£18m) - seems about right, but I think he will stay
Fletcher- (Free) - agree
Cleverley- (Free) - I think we will get at least £5m for him in January, if not than I agree
Nani - (£12m) - he should fetch at least £15-20m, if not he should stay
Hernandez (£14m) - this seems about right
Powell- (£2m) - I think we will sell him, if someone offers £5-6m, for £2m it's probably not worth selling him
Zaha-(£5) - I think we will sell him, if someone offers around £10m, otherwise keep loaning him
RvP-(£15m) - no way, he is staying, unless we get £25m+ and we have signed another top, top striker
Mata (£24m) - no way, he is staying
Janujaz (£20m)- that's just crazy talk - he will stay at least another 5 years here; if by the time he is 24-25 he hasn't claimed a first team place, than maybe we will sell him (like Welbeck)

While I take your point on Mata, and maybe Janujaz both of whom I don't want to be sold, the rest I stand by my fees on, you have to remember the wages these guys are on, and the length of contract they have left.
 
If I was manager then I would look to get rid of Fletcher, Anderson, Evans, Hernandez, Fellaini, Cleverley, Powell, Zaha and Nani. I'd also look at getting rid of Jones for a decent fee. We need to sign Clyne, Laporte, Strootman, Tielemans and bring back Vidic on a free. Vidic wouldn't start (maybe cup games), but he'd boost morale and our younger defenders can learn from him. And sort Dave's contract out while we're at it. I wouldn't extend Falcao's loan deal either.

De Gea
Rafael/Clyne - Laporte/Smalling - Laporte/Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Herrera/Strootman - Di Maria
Mata
van Persie - Rooney

This would give us loads of options. Laporte would be a nailed on starter and I think both Rojo and Smalling will look really good with a top partner. Then we'd have McNair, Vidic and maybe Jones as backup, with Carrick and Blind able to play there as well as Blackett (athough I'd consider loaning him out).

Our midfield is sorted too, Blind will be first choice anchor, with Carrick as understudy, and able to drop back if we need to quickly change to a five at the back formation. Herrera and or Strootman will combine with Di Maria (who can play in the AM position) to create a powerful engine room whilst Mata's creativity will work perfectly in this system.

If we need a more potent lineup then Rooney can play in the AM role instead of Mata but he will primarily be used as a ST (IMO his best position) with van Persie and/or Falcao if he stays. If we want to use wingers in a 433 then that could also work:

De Gea
Rafael/Clyne - Laporte/Smalling - Laporte/Rojo - Shaw
Strootman/Herrera - Blind (DM)/Mata (AM) - Di Maria
Valencia/Januzaj - Rooney/van Persie - Young

Maybe we can sign Bale if the 433 is the way we're going :drool:
 
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Could be another high turnover again I reckon.

Lindergard- £4m
Rafael-£8m
Evans- £3m
Young- If out of contract free, the guys on stupid wages as far as I remember, if not £5m
Anderson- Free
Fellaini - £18m
Fletcher- Free
Cleverley- Free
Nani - £12m
Hernandez £14m
Powell- £2m
Zaha-£5
And one of RvP, Mata, or Janujaz -£15m , £24 m ,£20 m respectively.

Safe bet all these won't go but wouldn't mind betting most will be on the market depending how things go until end of season.

£3m for Evans, are you having a laugh?
 
Hernandez/Anderson/Fletcher/Cleverley/Powell/Zaha/Lingard/Thorpe/M.Keane/W.Keane maybe Evans too. Don't think Fellaini will leave as we have found a use for him.
 
Definitely won't be in the squad:

1) Fletcher - I think he has a contract which runs until the summer? He only plays when we need to rest someone or if there is genuinely no one else who can fill the holding role. A squad place wasted in reality.

2) Anderson - Stealing a living since 2010.

3) Hernandez - I don't see any way back for him here. When you talk about philosophy, he definitely doesn't fit.

4) Nani - I think when a player goes on loan abroad, back home to their first ever club, they're done. I think he's a far better winger than most of our current wingers, but his United career is surely over?

5) Zaha - Like Nani, going back to Palace makes it seem as though he's a goner. Never really watched him play either so I have no real judgement on the guy. Doesn't seem to have developed since playing in the PL.

Possible exits:

1) Evans - This is more a personal point of view, but surely no one with any authority thinks he is currently playing well? He might fetch a few million rather than running his contract down to 2016.

2) Powell - Liked the look of him whilst on loan last season, but I think it was one of those where the top tier of Premier League is probably way above his level and he took a very bad loan this season.

3) Lingard - He won't make it here. I'd be surprised if he stuck around to fill the squad.

Possible sales for 'football reasons':

1) Mata - He's been hot and cold with LVG. Seems quite dispensible when everyone is fit, but over the last month or so he's played really really well. With Rooney's form tailing off, I'd say he's our most in form outfield player. However, for football reasons, I agree with the few who say he could be gone this summer. Would be bizarre unless we were getting a much better player in - and the only name I can think of who doesn't play for a direct rival and is genuinely a step up would be Rodriguez, which obviously isn't going to happen.

2) Fellaini - If we believe that midfield is still an area of concern and more new players arrive, you can't have Carrick, Blind, Fellaini, Herrera, Di Maria, Rooney and a new guy or two. LVG seems to rate Carrick as high as anyone in the squad, he's praised Herrera today, showered Blind with a lot of praise and I think naturally Fellaini is the odd one out. Fair play to the oaf for being useful in some games this season, but I remain unconvinced by his ability to help us control games. He's far better being the underdog and that was what we needed a year ago when we were simply shite.
 
Lindegaard - he's fine as back up, although I can see him wanting to leave to more first team football, which you couldn't begrudge him.

Evans - he's what, 27? He is the senior defender in our defence, and he just doesn't look anywhere near good enough. Mid table defender at best.

Fletcher - contracts up, and we'd be stupid to offer him a new one. He's not good enough anymore.

Anderson - contracts up.

Cleverley - contracts up.

Zaha - he isn't returning from his loan. Someone will take him off out hands.

Lingard - isn't going to make it at United. Could forge a career at a lower premier league side.

Hernandez - Madrid won't sign him, but someone will. Won't be here next year.

Powell - lazy attitude will stop him ever reaching his undoubted potential. Shame.

Valencia/Young will both go if we can get someone to take them off of us, but wages will be an issue. Same with Nani.

Older reserves (M. Keane, W. Keane etc will be sold too).

Another huge summer here.
 
Definitely going to be another massive turnover, and i reckon we will outspend or at least match last year. huge summer ahead. first choice RB,CB, CM, FW coming in with tons of fringe players gone and a switch to a 433 type system.

Anderson,
cleverely
Fletcher
powell
evans
hernandez
zaha
and some reserve players.

The proper clean up we've wanted for years.