Has to be Ancelotti for me. Wins trophies, excellent man manager, doesn't take shit, has the charisma/leadership to go against people like Pep and Klopp and so fecking cool with that eyebrow.
Who replaces Ten Hag?
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Ancelotti isn’t available until the end of the season. He’s literally the only manager I can see getting us anywhere. He also has ambidextrous eyebrows which is a talent in itself. Potter has about as much passion and personality as a traffic warden.
Can't see Ancelotti being available this season, but would be a solid option if RM decide to go for Alonso.
I'd take Ancelotti too, I think we all would, him or Zidane. Can't see it at all though.
I think more realistically, Emery, Flick, Nagelsmann, Rose, Schmidt or Amorim.
Would any of them them be guaranteed successes? Nope, and barring Amorim all have blemishes on their record. I'd be willing them a go though, some more than others and see what happens should we decide to move on from Ten Hag. I'm at the point where I don't believe ETH will be a success so would be ok with trying someone else. If it fails it fails.
Potter, who we're being linked with has English experience over them all bar Emery. Potter doesn't having experience of coaching at the business end of the table with at least some success, which they all do albeit in different leagues.
I think more realistically, Emery, Flick, Nagelsmann, Rose, Schmidt or Amorim.
Would any of them them be guaranteed successes? Nope, and barring Amorim all have blemishes on their record. I'd be willing them a go though, some more than others and see what happens should we decide to move on from Ten Hag. I'm at the point where I don't believe ETH will be a success so would be ok with trying someone else. If it fails it fails.
Potter, who we're being linked with has English experience over them all bar Emery. Potter doesn't having experience of coaching at the business end of the table with at least some success, which they all do albeit in different leagues.
I know who I don't want:
- Simeone: Shit football.
- Emery: Football he plays is not very attractive. Dull personality. Didn't do too well at Arsenal.
- de Zerbi: Hasn't done nearly enough to warrant such a big job.
- Nagelsmann : Not good enough. Failed at Bayern. Cannot coach defense. Ole schooled him in the CL. We'd have beaten them again if Ole wasn't such a pussy & set us up to draw in the return leg.
- Potter: Really?
- Rose: Failed at BvB. Hasn't shown enough to warrant a top job.
- Flick: Has done nothing besides those seasons at Bayern with arguably one of the best if not the best squad in world football.
For me has to be a top top manager (Ancelloti or Zidane), a new and up coming manager with a huge personality (Don't know who) or someone internal who is well aware of our issues like Carrick or McKenna, i.e. if they prove themselves more.
- Simeone: Shit football.
- Emery: Football he plays is not very attractive. Dull personality. Didn't do too well at Arsenal.
- de Zerbi: Hasn't done nearly enough to warrant such a big job.
- Nagelsmann : Not good enough. Failed at Bayern. Cannot coach defense. Ole schooled him in the CL. We'd have beaten them again if Ole wasn't such a pussy & set us up to draw in the return leg.
- Potter: Really?
- Rose: Failed at BvB. Hasn't shown enough to warrant a top job.
- Flick: Has done nothing besides those seasons at Bayern with arguably one of the best if not the best squad in world football.
For me has to be a top top manager (Ancelloti or Zidane), a new and up coming manager with a huge personality (Don't know who) or someone internal who is well aware of our issues like Carrick or McKenna, i.e. if they prove themselves more.
The only manager I wanted when Fergie left.
I personally don't see Ancelotti making a difference. Carlos coming into United would be more similar to him going into Everton than a former champions Chelsea or a multiple champions league winning Real Madrid. He would be coming to a team that hasn't won a major trophy in a decade, with not a lot of money to spend and a majority of the squad who may not even be good enough to start for a top half team.
We have had every type of manager and all have failed. It ain't the managers that are the problems here.
People want Zidane? Jesus Christ...
Fortunately he wouldn't consider us for a second anyway.
Fortunately he wouldn't consider us for a second anyway.
Ancelotti is staying at Real or going to the national team of Brazil. He won’t start at a new project. He said multiple times that Real will be his last club job.
Is has to be Alonso I think, but will he want to come here with his Liverpool connection where he played for 5 years. Or will he wait to take over at Real or Liverpool in the next couple of years. Klopp won’t stay there forever I think.
Is has to be Alonso I think, but will he want to come here with his Liverpool connection where he played for 5 years. Or will he wait to take over at Real or Liverpool in the next couple of years. Klopp won’t stay there forever I think.
There's more chance of Zidane from Final Fantasy IX becoming the new manager than Zinedine fecking Zidane because firstly, he's a successful manger and secondly, he has said repeatedly that if he manages again he'll manage a team to win. If he comes here he won't win, he'll be fighting for top 4 spot and getting done multiple times in a season by Eddie Howe. That's as low as it gets for a CL winning manager.
We. Are. Worried.
We. Are. Worried.
Quite picky, half those managers would do a good job. Zidane and Ancelotti have zero chance. Carrick or McKenna could be like Solskjaer. Not against it completely but a gamble and it would be years until they got the required experience.
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For the first time I have no excitement or interest over a managerial change. If it isn’t accompanied by a structural revolution than it doesn’t even matter. That our transfer policy has just been sign whoever the manager wants is pathetic. The Antony signing should have been rejected by the club and the executives need to assist the manager by providing genuine excellence. The guy at City who came from Barcelona is such a top man for any manager to have. Proven record. We have Ed , Murtough and other clowns.
None of them will do a good job. The current infrastructure sets them up to fail. There is not a single manager in the world who would come in and turn us into consistent challenges until the infrastructure in the club is sorted out.
This is why it's utterly pointless to sack ETH until the infrastructure is sorted. At least there is some light at the end of the tunnel now that Brailsford is looking into things.
Harry Redknapp is the man, he will turn Hojlund into Harry Kane Mk II.
Stop being so bloody defensive. SAF was the greatest manager of all time. An absolute legend in his own lifetime - there is no lack of respect toward him, and it’s not disrespectful to think he might struggle too in the present situation.
That opinion isn’t a reflection of Sir Alex’s methods or abilities, but I’m not sure the modern players would take to his methods. I’m fairly confident he would lose his rag with many of them and we’d end up with multiple Sancho situations.
Thing is, I agree Erik takes his share of the blame for tactical issues and transfer decisions. I also believe we should be performing better than we are. But I also think swapping DDG for Onana and failing to buy an experienced striker has weakened our squad. I also think we are missing Fred and his energy in the middle of the park. His tenacity and firefighting covered up a lot of other players issues I think.
That doesn’t change the fact that there is no need for stupid petty labels and name calling. All it achieves is division.
I wouldn't trust Brailsford much in football unless he has a few dodgy contacts from his cycling days to have United covering 20km more a game.
When I see Such opinions delivered frequently on this forum I genuinely wonder do the posters even realise what disservice they are doing to great man one of the Sir Alex's greatest strength was excellent man management and other was regularly evolving and adapting to ever changing landscape of football he would have been just fine even with current crop of players .
Both Zidane and Ancelotti would fail so spectacularly at United that it would be funny to see the confusion on here as a result
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As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, I don't have real-time information on the current state of world football or the status of football managers. However, I can provide information on some of the highly regarded and successful managers up to that point. Keep in mind that the status of managers can change, and new developments may have occurred since my last update.
As of 2022, some of the highly respected and successful football managers included:
1. **Pep Guardiola (Manchester City):** Known for his successful tenures at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, Guardiola has continued to achieve success with Manchester City, winning domestic titles and emphasizing an attractive style of play.
2. **Jurgen Klopp (Liverpool):** Klopp led Liverpool to their first Premier League title in the 2019-2020 season and secured the UEFA Champions League in the 2018-2019 season, establishing himself as one of the top managers in the world.
3. **Zinedine Zidane (Real Madrid):** Zidane had a remarkable stint with Real Madrid, winning three consecutive UEFA Champions League titles in 2016, 2017, and 2018. His success in managing one of the world's biggest clubs has earned him praise.
4. **Thomas Tuchel (Chelsea):** Tuchel gained attention for his success with Borussia Dortmund and Paris Saint-Germain before taking over at Chelsea. He led Chelsea to victory in the UEFA Champions League in the 2020-2021 season.
5. **Diego Simeone (Atletico Madrid):** Simeone has been highly successful with Atletico Madrid, winning La Liga and reaching the UEFA Champions League final.
6. **Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid):** Ancelotti has a storied managerial career, having won domestic league titles in Italy, England, and France. He returned to Real Madrid for the 2021-2022 season.
Keep in mind that football is dynamic, and managerial success is subject to change based on team performance and other factors. For the latest and most accurate information on the best football managers, it's recommended to check current sports news and updates.
As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, I don't have real-time information on the current state of world football or the status of football managers. However, I can provide information on some of the highly regarded and successful managers up to that point. Keep in mind that the status of managers can change, and new developments may have occurred since my last update.
As of 2022, some of the highly respected and successful football managers included:
1. **Pep Guardiola (Manchester City):** Known for his successful tenures at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, Guardiola has continued to achieve success with Manchester City, winning domestic titles and emphasizing an attractive style of play.
2. **Jurgen Klopp (Liverpool):** Klopp led Liverpool to their first Premier League title in the 2019-2020 season and secured the UEFA Champions League in the 2018-2019 season, establishing himself as one of the top managers in the world.
3. **Zinedine Zidane (Real Madrid):** Zidane had a remarkable stint with Real Madrid, winning three consecutive UEFA Champions League titles in 2016, 2017, and 2018. His success in managing one of the world's biggest clubs has earned him praise.
4. **Thomas Tuchel (Chelsea):** Tuchel gained attention for his success with Borussia Dortmund and Paris Saint-Germain before taking over at Chelsea. He led Chelsea to victory in the UEFA Champions League in the 2020-2021 season.
5. **Diego Simeone (Atletico Madrid):** Simeone has been highly successful with Atletico Madrid, winning La Liga and reaching the UEFA Champions League final.
6. **Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid):** Ancelotti has a storied managerial career, having won domestic league titles in Italy, England, and France. He returned to Real Madrid for the 2021-2022 season.
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Offer Jose a shit load and see if he bites. Should never of sacked him in the first place.
Go away.
Go away.
As opposed to some of the names being spouted in this thread?
Our most successful manager since Fergie and proved right about a number of players he called out. In hindsight we didn't realise what we had and certainly hasn't been any better since.
If it wasn't for a clueless micky mouse board refusing to back him in transfers and against waste of space players, we'd have been twice as successfull since he left.
I know it won't happen, but not a bad shout either imo.
Jose is a horrible, horrible manager and had been found out in Premier league by the time the board stupidly appointed him. Charlton was vehemently opposed to him and he was right. A nasty individual, motivates by fear and picking on certain individuals, no interest in building for the future, no interest in youth. And his football was awful. We might moan about ETH and single pivot but Mou invariably insisted on playing two DMs with limited mobility against weak teams. He was not the answer and never was.
Amazes me people talking about Alonso when at the minute he's essentially the new Ten Hag. A hipster hero with a very short CV.
You see I have the opposite view.
Brailsford is all about performance excellence and how to achieve it.
He will input the required structure to improve both physical and mental improvements.
And boy, don't we need that.
Jose was never a manager I wanted and I dont disagree with alot of what you wrote about him.
But he had won the league only a few months previously with Chelsea. Managers dont lose the ability to win trophies in a couple of months. His record before United was impeccable. No matter how much you dislike him, his career declined AFTER he joined United. Its the same story for pretty much every player who joins United.
Seriously, at some stage, our fans have to accept that the common denominator in the failure of every manager and player since 2013 has been our club. We cant keep acting like the problem is simply that we ALWAYS choose the wrong players and the wrong managers and its just a simple case of changing this one thing. Its much more then that.
Our club is setup to fail, that is really irrefutable at this stage. The only debate is whether a manager or the players here should be doing a bit better but the debate is never that "the current manager/players should be challanging for the league/CL". That says it all about how the club is being run, no matter what you think of the players or managers. We are a super club that cant even consistently qualify for the CL. There is no other super club that suffers this indignity, the worse they suffer is no CL or League title.
As far as I am concerned, it shouldnt matter who Uniteds manager is, we should NEVER be below top 4 given our resources. Thats the football infrastructure failing miserably, not the managers.
I agreed with a great deal of what he did and said.... initially.
But, for a whole host of reasons, things did become toxic. And at the end, it was right that Jose was sacked.
So not again.
He is doing it in a better league and people are hoping that he isn't dumb enough to throw everything good he knows and play transition bs football.
Very good post. I don't believe that any manager would be able to succeed at the moment given the structural problems.
That is what I support the introduction of Sir Jim Ratcliffe takeover of the football side. And the quicker the better.
God no. We all saw how Ancelotti fared at Everton. He needs a good structure and world class players to succeed. Plus he's 400 years old.
We need a project now, something we're going to stick with long term both on & off the pitch. Too many of our fans want success NOW. Doesn't work like that.
Come on now Plant, you don't want another threadban especially this close to Xmas.Go away.
Wtf are you on about?? EtH is doing a pretty rubbish job this season , and it's because he's bought rubbish that's his fault.. I've got nothing but respect for SAF . But he wouldn't get a tune out of this lot .. so what your on about I don't know !!
With the help of a jiffy bag or two.
But wouldn't Zidane kind of fall into the same category as Flick?
It’s a terrible shout. He failed at United. We were looking for PL and CL trophies and he delivered a league cup and EL. He had Pogba, Sanchez, Ibra, Lukaku etc…. and his self proclaimed best achievement was 2nd.
He subsequently failed at Spurs and has become irrelevant at Roma. He is done.
You can go away too newbie WUM.
Refusing to back him on transfers is rich, spent as much as any other manager and just did the same as Ten Hag and brought in all his contacts. All four players in one window were Raiola. Pogba and Lukaku were huge transfer fees and Ibrahimovic and Sanchez were huge wages. He bitched and moaned like he does in every third season in a club, it's not a United thing, he's done it 5 or 6 times in his career now.
I would also have issue with him being considered our most successful manager, it's much of amuchness between them all. One 2nd place and two cups. But the Europa League covered up for finishing 6th in the league (by comparison Ole finished 3rd and 2nd in his two full seasons at the club). As for the League Cup, Ten Hag won the League Cup too, and Van Gaal won the FA Cup. He left the team in such a toxic state that Ole arriving led to the greatest new manager bounce I've seen, which shows how bad it had got in the dressing room.
This is not true. Mourinho won the league a year before we got him. He had been fired for I think 6 months by the time we had got him because he'd fallen out with his Chelsea team who were in the bottom half by the time he left. The cracks started to show during his last season at Madrid when he'd fallen out with all the players there too.
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