And have most of our fan base whinging again. Counter attacking won’t win us many games because under Ole the smaller teams knew that was all we was good at so they sat deep. How can you counter a deep team? This season teams know that we leave spaces open left right and centre hence why we get attacked on a lot more. Hopefully this is the start of a clear out and bringing in players who fit the style the owners want the manager to implement and stick with it. If we finish 7th but have at least shown improvements in the style of play then so be it and then we just build again the year after which by then most of the squad should be comfortable playing that way.
Who replaces Ten Hag?
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McKenna or poch probably are the best option from a bad bunch. Really don’t rate zerbi
There isn’t one option that I’d be buzzing about.
Unless they bring in Ryan Giggs with Keano assistant.
Unless they bring in Ryan Giggs with Keano assistant.
He's won a league and 2 cups with PSG and reached a CL final with Spurs. Even if you think he should have won more, he's definitely achieved more than Potter or Southgate
I'm not saying we should keep him because of Chelsea, but holding Chelsea up as an example of how to run a club would almost be a reason to just do the opposite.Wait, what? Chelsea parting ways with Pochettino means we should stick with Ten Hag?
Bizarre take
Failing to get to CL was failure. They had no Europe to contend with either.
De Zerbi could be miles ahead of Mckenna. We don't know how Mckenna will do in top league. De Zerbi brought Brighton to Europe.
Tuchel is clearly the most accomplished available manager but he is apparently not on the shortlist.
Don't think he's leaving unless he chooses to go. We can't afford the payout needed to fire him.
Why are you lumping Poch, a guy who got Tottenham into the champions league final for goodness sake in with those other 2?
Unlikely anyone will be capable of this within the next 3 years, so don't think that's a valid reason to disqualify Poch. We can always make another change in 2-3 years if we think we need someone else to bring us to title contention
What do people think of Stefano Pioli? He is available now after leaving Milan
Fair point. But I meant in general is he capable? He came close in the 16/17 season. Just don’t really see him as a winner.
That is my point. Everyone has his favorites and valid pros and cons reasons . Even between Klopp and Pep fanbase would be 50:50.
I would never go for McKenna for example but i would love to see Tuchel or Poch.
A fair question in the long-term, but for now we should probably be focused on who's going to help us progress, and he definitely did that at Spurs even if he never quite got them over the line. I'm still in favour of Tuchel btw, but I see the benefits of Poch too. I'm hoping that we see progress and establish ourselves as a CL team again for the next couple seasons. Then, regardless of who the manager is, we can hopefully look to push for a title challenge. If Poch doesn't look up to it, we can look to the manager market again. Managers should only stay at a club long term if they're succeeding.
Winning a French league with PSG or any domestic cup isn't worth taking about as it's low hanging fruit. How under his watch that he somehow allowed lille win the league title is worth discussing though and something I doubt Potter or Southgate would have managed if in charge. Ten Hag with Ajax took out of a lot of the big hitters in that CL campaign and Ajax left a CL final appearance behind them v Spurs.
His seems to get built up higher and for longer than most for that CL final appearance. Does Roberto Di Matteo get talked up as much? after all he led Chelsea who was the 6th best in the PL to the CL title in 2012.
He took over halfway through that season, so half of the blame for that needs to go on Tuchel. Poch did make Spurs into a consistent CL team also and had them competing for the title in several seasons. It's not just getting to a CL final that was impressive. The teams that finished above him in the league on most occasions were spending more money than Spurs.
Btw, your point on Potter or Southgate managing to beat Lille taking over halfway through the season is based on what exactly? Because I doubt many would seriously claim Southgate and Potter are better managers than Tuchel and Poch. In the end PSG only finished 1 point behind Lille.
Not sure where he disappeared to, but clearly he'd rank higher than the non cup winners.
Id take Tuchel, Pochettino or De Zerbi to give them as season to see how they would perform.
I have no confidence in Ten Hag long term.
I have no confidence in Ten Hag long term.
If we are going to sack ETH then I hope we are actually working on his replacement behind the scenes now. Chelsea and others seem well on with getting their coach sorted, and it would be typical of us to wait until everyone is gone to sack him and then start wondering who to go for.
It's gotta be Poch now! C'mon we all wanted him earlier so what's changed? Why the doubters?
Maresca and McKenna, apparantly favoured by Chelsea, should be two candidates Man Utd know well and have much input on.
PSG was one point off the top of the French table when Tuchel departed. It's a low hanging fruit of a competition that no PSG team regardless who they are managed by should be losing.
People can moan all they want as long as we’re finishing in the top 4.
The managers job is to get the best out of the current players and coach them to be better. If that means counter attack until he can get different players in or coach the current lot to be better then so be it.
Players like Rashford and Bruno are still going to be here, and we’re not going to sign De Jong and De Brunye to replace them so this will be a process. Winning games is more important than playing to a system.
Horrible alternatives to ETH. No one inspires confidence, including poch who just gives me nice guy but underachiever vibes.
What managers in the world, regardless of whether or not they're realistic, would actually inspire confidence in you?
I would rather stick with Eric than this shitty depressing list.
Would definitely take him as England manager
There isn’t one option that I’d be buzzing about.
Unless they bring in Ryan Giggs with Keano assistant.
Giggs isn't the most likeable fellow so i wouldn't be buzzing
Why is everyone saying the market is shit? Isnt it better than any year? Loads of good managers available both experienced and young managers. Ok they are not Pep but if thats what we are waiting for then we might as well give ETH a 20 year contract. I think United fans are just mind fkd from so many disappointments that its better to stick with the sht we have than get their hopes up just to be disappointed again. I think we are broken
Surely the club can identify seriously overachieving managers across Europe, but known failures is something we should be avoiding as a given.
McKenna has seriously overachieved, though.
I have a feeling it'll be Pochettino.
How about Rob Edwards?
People on here just want to complain no matter what I think
how was ole not an apprentceship ??? the bloke was relegation bliss and we gave him a go because he beat psg away
I honestly don't know which manager would please them outside of Klopp and Pep. People seem to want these obscure managers coming out of nowhere that can surprise, but the truth is, with the way media works now, everyone is known. There is no untainted manager. In addition, the relatively obscure ( in a big league) ones are risky. Look at ETH. If he managed in Italy, Spain or Germany, we could have been able to spot a lot of his managerial gaps prior to his arrival. There's a reason Brendan Rodgers can dominate in Scotland.
For me, another weird take that's getting thrown out is this idea of a short term manager. Unless, like LVG, the manager is old; a manager's term has to do with their will and their success at the club. Pep would have been considered a short term manager by many here given how he left Barca and Bayern, but look how long he's been at City.
Just have this feeling it will Di Zerbi.
yeah , avoided us getting relegated as per his other gigs
cmon he never even remotely comes close to a job like that given his mangerial resume , he was clearly backed on his reputation within the club and nothing more ...more time wasted
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