Have you seen who he was up against?
Who is the best Asian footballer of all time?
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The thread is about the best ever Asian player...Have you seen who he was up against?
Where did I say decorated is individual awards? I can tell, you are once again cannot read. When I said ‘’Individual discussion’’, it doesn’t point to individual awards specifically. And beside, Park has been nominated in ballon dor nominee and UEFA Firwards nominee. Footballers being decorated is about being iconic, it’s an individual discussion what makes player an icon in Asian football.
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in UAE, he was awarded as the best ever foreign player to play in the domestic league there.
Check my posts. I definitely think Son is one of or if not the best Asian footballer.
I just don't think he is decorated that's all. Its a silly discussion over a word anyway.
Decorated team is different to decorated player. Thus, you are wrong about team’s achievement to be relevant to individual discussion.
A decorated player has won a few trophies. Thus, you are wrong to consider Son a decorated player.
Son, top player and top Dad...
He clearly isn’t the best.
He clearly isn’t the best.
Hakan Şükür maybe? Played for the Turkish team that came 3rd in the 2002 world cup, and scored about 0.5 goals per match on the international level (51 goals in 112 matches). Granted, he did stay in Turkey for large parts of his career, but was surely a greater footballer than Son.
Or any of the many soviet legends. Rinat Dasaev is Asian, and was considered among the best goalkeepers in the world in his prime. Many of the best soviet players were born in Moscow, so I guess they don't count.
Or any of the many soviet legends. Rinat Dasaev is Asian, and was considered among the best goalkeepers in the world in his prime. Many of the best soviet players were born in Moscow, so I guess they don't count.
Son’s better at football...
Haha
Is this achievement not enough to label Son as one of the decorative player in Asian football? That's one hell of achievements that at least all Asian Footballers apart from Park & Cha would dream of and willing to take as an example of. You just need to understand how to be decorative, not many Asian Footballer can do what Son has done or achieved and they are all dream about it.
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Most of those are awards based on popularity decided by a another person, rather than objectively winning a trophy.
I wouldn't class most as "achievements" at all.
So no
Son is probably the best Asian player ever. One of the most decorated? Nah.
that list would be much thinner if you took out goal of the month/season awards.
Achievements still achievements mate. Majority Asians would be dream to achieve what Son has done so far, that's what makes him decorative. The iconic in Asian football.
I grew up watching football in the 90's, when Seria A was the dominant force! So for me, its Hideotoshi Nakata
Dunno..... I would argue that Park's talent as a central midefielder are easily the equal of Son's as a winger/wideforward. Park has battled with some of the best in the world and of an era and come out on top. Park is provem quality at the highest of high levels.... the only opponents who took the piss a bit were Xavi and Iniesta. Styles make fights as they say.
Talent wise Ali Karimi was by far the best Asian player has ever walked in the pitch but he was lazy az feck in training.
Ability- Nakata
Consistency - Son
Consistency - Son
Son falls behind many Japanese players in terms of being iconic
Based on your username, are you Japanese?
No I'm English. Based on your posting style are you Korean as I'm white texting you buddy.
No I'm not. But you can named those Japanese players though.
Regarding goalkeepers from that continent, would Ali Al-Habsi be considered the greatest?
Not counting Australians as Asians.
Not counting Australians as Asians.
Son is the best winger in the prem currently, if you count Salah as a winger, then a toss up between the both of them. He is probably top 5 or even top 3 in the world.
He has reach a level far beyond Park's. And since when Park was a central midfielder?
I would say that Ali Ashfag is as good as him if not better. 52 in 80 games. Plus he carried Maldives all on his own and was voted among the best 11 players in Asia. also the IFFHS International goal scorer of the year in 2013.
A lot of these players mentioned including Ashfag has not played in Europe and did not get the lime light.
Son is definitvely not the best winger in the PL.
And he's not even the best South Korean to play for Bayer Leverkusen.
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Son definitely.
How about Karim Bagehri? Scored 57 goals in 80 International games. He played as a DM. He surely should be on that list. I would also say Son is the best Asian player. To me he certainly is a much better player than Park.
Cha was a top player too.
Cha was a top player too.
Nah, surely Rinat Dasaev (Soviet, born in Asian part of Russia) was a greater goalkeeper than Al-Habsi. Also Rüştü Reçber, with 120 caps for Turkey.
The disrespect Nakata gets on this thread makes me wonder if some posters had actually ever watched him play. Sure, the hype surrounding him leading up to Japan/Korea 2002 was too much, but stats are not the end all and be all for players like him.
My mate Seran was a legend in the South London Tamil football league
It depends on what you value. Football is a team sport and Park is the definition of a team player. He's also the most decorated, so there's that. Is he the most skilled Asian player? No. Son probably takes that title.
Son is the most talented Asian player I have seen in my life time. Not sure if he has had the same cult following that Park did for us though.
I know you like Cha but what has my post got to do with him? Or even Bayer Neverkusen?
You can add Grealish into the mix but its just matter of personal preference. My original point still stands.
Nakata was a great player and the first Asian I really remember impacting on the European game. Probably a lot of people in this thread are too young to really remember him or may have just seen his short stint with Bolton. Didn't he retire at a young age to pursue fashion?
I agree that Kagawa's highs(2010 - 2012) beats Son's highs. And he's won more major trophies as well. Son clearly beats Kagawa on longevity/consistency, though.
I'm happy to see him mentioned in here! Fecking cool player. Excellent passer, great freekicks, rarely put a foot wrong. It's a damn shame he never played in Europe.
Soooo... do turkish players count?