Who is leaving us then?

Adamsk7 said:
Varane
Casemiro
Evans
Amrabat
Sancho
Greenwood
Van Der Beek?
Martial
One of McTominay or Maguire
Lindelof
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Out of Contract - 100%
Varane
Evans
Bailey?
Amrabat
Martial

Want to offload at any offer, asking wage is decent - 80% certainty
Greenwood
Van Der Beek

Keen to move on, might accept lower wage - 70% certainty
Eriksen

Want to offload but wage demand is huge gap, unless we subsidise - 30%
Maguire
Casemiro
Antony

Might want to keep unless good offer available, but very unlikely under current market condition - 30%
Lindelof
Sancho
McTom
Bruno
Rashford

I doubt the last category is moving unless attractive offer coming in, we have simply too many In and Out to work on.
 
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cyril C said:
Out of Contract - 100%
Varane
Evans
Bailey?
Amrabat
Martial

Want to offload at any offer, asking wage is decent - 80% certainty
Greenwood
Van Der Beek

Keen to move on, might accept lower wage - 70% certainty
Eriksen

Want to offload but wage demand is huge gap, unless we subsidise - 30%
Maguire
Casemiro

Might want to keep unless good offer available, but very unlikely under current market condition - 30%
Lindelof
Sancho
McTom
Bruno
Rashford

I doubt the last category is moving unless attractive offer coming in, we have simply too many In and Out to work on.
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The biggest barrier to selling a lot of our players are the wages.

I think this is a good list, but I feel we could offload a bunch of them if we didn't give stupid wages.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
We might keep AWB if Dalot is the player to cover for Shaw. We might not afford a new full back considering we need to buy a RCB, DCM and a striker.
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AWB has to go or we need to find another back. I can’t stomach another season of his poor positioning and horrifyingly bad ball skills. I feel like the team started to try and avoid passing him the ball.

Hopefully Shaw is back healthy and we can go back to him on the left and Dalot on the right. If Malacia is not back then they’ll need to find 2 or see if the Academy kids are ready to back up.
 
Didn’t even see Martial during the celebrations. The lazy git couldn’t be bothered to dance around a bit and drink some champagne in the sun.
 
leeroyTX said:
AWB has to go or we need to find another back. I can’t stomach another season of his poor positioning and horrifyingly bad ball skills. I feel like the team started to try and avoid passing him the ball.

Hopefully Shaw is back healthy and we can go back to him on the left and Dalot on the right. If Malacia is not back then they’ll need to find 2 or see if the Academy kids are ready to back up.
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I think Shaw’s days of playing a full season are over. Ten Hag said so in the voetbal interview that the injury early in his career means he cannot be relied on to stay fit for full season.
 
Adamsk7 said:
Nah. He’s put in like 3 good performances in a row but we can’t forget the rest of the season. Even in these good games he has only shown commitment and desire. He’s not good enough on the ball.

He’s also gonna cost us £20m
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The price was fixed at 15mm euro in the loan deal? So he’s 12m pounds. The 10m we paid for the loan is a sunk cost

He’s not good enough for us but that’s also not terrible to sign our reserve #6, if that’s what he wants.

We definitely need a starter in front of him to replace Case though.

I’d be against it if he’s supposed to be our starter, but ok if he’s our backup
 
Adamsk7 said:
Nah. He’s put in like 3 good performances in a row but we can’t forget the rest of the season. Even in these good games he has only shown commitment and desire. He’s not good enough on the ball.

He’s also gonna cost us £20m
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I’m not arguing he’s been poor most of the season but it’s not just three games, it’s three games where he seems fit, not being asked to play FB and (most importantly), playing in a formation/midfield/position that works… def mid with other MFers close because we have one more instead of a 9.
 
cyril C said:
Out of Contract - 100%
Varane
Evans
Bailey?
Amrabat
Martial

Want to offload at any offer, asking wage is decent - 80% certainty
Greenwood
Van Der Beek

Keen to move on, might accept lower wage - 70% certainty
Eriksen

Want to offload but wage demand is huge gap, unless we subsidise - 30%
Maguire
Casemiro
Antony

Might want to keep unless good offer available, but very unlikely under current market condition - 30%
Lindelof
Sancho
McTom
Bruno
Rashford

I doubt the last category is moving unless attractive offer coming in, we have simply too many In and Out to work on.
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I think that's a good list.
 
Hanky panky said:
Marcus looked very emotional in Fa cup win celebrations. And also a bit confused. Is he leaving?
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MyOnlySolskjaer said:
He was dropped from the England squad, then days later wins with his boyhood club against his local rivals in the FA Cup at Wembley at probably the biggest game of his career. Why wouldn't he be very emotional?
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He seems to have had a tough season mentally. He’s probably struggling with not following up the previous seasons good form, he’s got press and fans on his back and has missed out on the Euros. It looked very much to me like an emotional release, the dam breaking so to speak. Hope he gets a good rest/holiday and comes back once again next season to silence the doubters. In a United shirt of course.
 
It depends who we sign, and what offers we receive. But as a rough guess.

Martial, Varane, Greenwood, VDB definitely out. Amrabat will leave, and it's unlikely we should sign him permentantly unless we fail with multiple other targets. If ETH stays Sancho will leave, either loan or permanent. If ETH goes, I'd hope a new manager can get more out of him.

Eriksen, Evans, not opposed to giving them an extra year for squad depth depending on other signings/departures.

If we can get any half decent offer we should sell Casemiro.

If we get replacements and decent offers we should consider selling all/any of AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Antony, arguably Rashford (market value is still high imo). Could add McTominay to the list but as long as he's not utilised as a CM and instead as a backup/impact sub AM then probably keep him.
 
i think i’m going to be off. i’m not sure the club is matching my ambitions.
 
CasaStreets said:
The price was fixed at 15mm euro in the loan deal? So he’s 12m pounds. The 10m we paid for the loan is a sunk cost

He’s not good enough for us but that’s also not terrible to sign our reserve #6, if that’s what he wants.

We definitely need a starter in front of him to replace Case though.

I’d be against it if he’s supposed to be our starter, but ok if he’s our backup
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The price in the loan deal is 20M euro to make him permanent. We have limited funds this summer and cannot be wasting that much on a bit part player. In an injury ravaged season he has rarely been trusted, if we keep him there is every chance he just rots on the bench and becomes yet more deadwood.
 
Adamsk7 said:
Nah. He’s put in like 3 good performances in a row but we can’t forget the rest of the season. Even in these good games he has only shown commitment and desire. He’s not good enough on the ball.

He’s also gonna cost us £20m
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To be fair he’s only played about 3 games in his proper position.
 
Completely unrealitic in terms of numbers but here are who I would like to go - to make way and to provide a kitty to renovate the squad!

Maguire (£30m)
Varane (free)
AWB (£25m)
Evans (free)
Fernandez (£10m)
Eriksen (free)
Antony (£30m)
Casemiro (£20m)
Pellistri (£10m)
DVdB (free)
Mctominay (£30m)
Martial (free)
Rashford (£70m)
Greenwood (£30m)
Sancho (£45m)

That is £300m and if I add £50m budget then we have £350m to spend:-

RCB starter - Todibo (£30m)
RB back up - Archie Gray (£20m)
LB starter - Theo Hernandez (£50m)
LB back up - Milos Kerkez (£25m)
DCM - Jaoa Palinha (£50m)
RF starter - Michael Olise (£55m)
LF starter - Eze (£50m)
AM back up -
CF back up - Guirassy (£15m)

There you go - complete muppetry!!
 
JohnyBuckets said:
Probably sell one of H. Maguire or lindelof. Harry would probably bring in more money.
Wan Bissaka only if a good offer came in as he would be more expensive to replace and does bring in excellent one v one qualities.
Sancho and Greenwood will probably bring in decent fees
Mctominey also.
Erickson and Casemiro to leave on a free.
Pellistri for a small fee and resale clause.
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Maguire has 1 year left on his contract, he's not leaving for a big fee if he goes
Greenwood also has 1 year left, can't see him leaving for a big fee either
Eriksen will be allowed to leave
If Casemiro goes then I think Amrabat stays, even on a free I don't see many will take on Casemiro's wages, therefore if he's staying Amrabat goes
Sancho depends on how much we're prepared to write off, no one is paying a large fee and his wagesm same with AWb TBH
Pellestri will leave
McT will only leave for a lowish fee, no one is gonna give us 40 million for him
 
R0nald0 said:
Completely unrealitic in terms of numbers but here are who I would like to go - to make way and to provide a kitty to renovate the squad!

Maguire (£30m)
Varane (free)
AWB (£25m)
Evans (free)
Fernandez (£10m)
Eriksen (free)
Antony (£30m)
Casemiro (£20m)
Pellistri (£10m)
DVdB (free)
Mctominay (£30m)
Martial (free)
Rashford (£70m)
Greenwood (£30m)
Sancho (£45m)

That is £300m and if I add £50m budget then we have £350m to spend:-

RCB starter - Todibo (£30m)
RB back up - Archie Gray (£20m)
LB starter - Theo Hernandez (£50m)
LB back up - Milos Kerkez (£25m)
DCM - Jaoa Palinha (£50m)
RF starter - Michael Olise (£55m)
LF starter - Eze (£50m)
AM back up -
CF back up - Guirassy (£15m)

There you go - complete muppetry!!
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Described perfectly - so we're heading in to next season with 1 striker
 
Gandalf said:
The price in the loan deal is 20M euro to make him permanent. We have limited funds this summer and cannot be wasting that much on a bit part player. In an injury ravaged season he has rarely been trusted, if we keep him there is every chance he just rots on the bench and becomes yet more deadwood.
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Ah ok good to know, not sure where I’d heard 15. Amrabat aside, this is an interesting point and question though - what is the price of a ‘squad depth’ player that we’re ok with?

If we really want to offload a lot of current squad players, most will need to be replaced. Academy quality isn’t typically sufficient as immediate deputy, so it will cost money.

Again, Amrabat aside, I doubt we’ll find a lot of players we’d consider acceptable backup quality for very cheap - with the exception of a free transfer or two.
 
There's never as many as people think/want. It's just not something that's easy with the wages people are on and you've also got to replace who you get rid of so it's a balancing act.

We could get money for Wan Bissaka and Maguire (even with them they might not want to leave but considering they're out of contract next year they should) and maybe Greenwood too and then we're relying on a Saudi club paying Casemiro's wages otherwise I think he's staying too and that'll probably dictate Amrabat's future.

There's no value in Eriksen and Lindelof so I can potentially see them staying till their contracts expire next year, I think Sancho might go out on loan again (this might depend on who the manager is too) as nobody will be able to afford his wages and I reckon McTominay might stay too.
 
bosnian_red said:
My guess is:
  • Varane
  • Evans
  • Eriksen
  • Casemiro
  • Sancho
  • Greenwood
  • Martial
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All of these, plus Amrabat, Van de Beek, Mejbri, Facundo, Heaton, Williams, Fernandez (already gone), and wouldn't be surprised if Shoretire and Forson leave in search of gametime. So 14-16 likely departures...
 
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R0nald0 said:
Completely unrealitic in terms of numbers but here are who I would like to go - to make way and to provide a kitty to renovate the squad!

Maguire (£30m)
Varane (free)
AWB (£25m)
Evans (free)
Fernandez (£10m)
Eriksen (free)
Antony (£30m)
Casemiro (£20m)
Pellistri (£10m)
DVdB (free)
Mctominay (£30m)
Martial (free)
Rashford (£70m)
Greenwood (£30m)
Sancho (£45m)
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Where do you get these numbers from? We will not receive aforementioned fees for anyone, all of them will be cheaper if at all sold.
 
So much will depend on the manager. I could see Tommy Tuchel trying to get a tune out of Maguire and Casemiro for instance.

If McT is happy in the squad role I'd keep him. Has an eye for goal and a good mentality to have around, homegrown also of course

I'd bin Sancho and Antony at any cost

What's more important is the incomings. We need one of each CB, CM & CF all ready to start in the 1st team and be robust enough to stay fit for the season. That won't be cheap at all so whatever we have to do to finance from sales it has to happen if we're serious about kicking on
 
I don't think United will actually "sell" anyone. It'll be only the out of contracts that go.
 
Alemar said:
Where do you get these numbers from? We will not receive aforementioned fees for anyone, all of them will be cheaper if at all sold.
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30m for a 31y old player wishful thinking of course. At 200K/w or 10m p.a., let's say a 4y contract, someone need to fork out 70m for a 31y old. Can only recall Varane, Casemiro, Kane, VPS, CR, in such category, mostly MU the sucker.

For argument sake, let's say Leicester wants Maguire back, how much do you think they will be willing to pay? 8-15m MAX. How much do you think they are willing to pay on his wage? 100K MAX. So whatever we can get for Maguire, half will end up in Maguire's pocket if we want him to LEAVE on peace.

IMO still worthwhile. Keep Lindelof as backup, get Maguire and Varane off our book, find a young RHS CB who can play 35 games a season.
 
cyril C said:
30m for a 31y old player wishful thinking of course. At 200K/w or 10m p.a., let's say a 4y contract, someone need to fork out 70m for a 31y old. Can only recall Varane, Casemiro, Kane, VPS, CR, in such category, mostly MU the sucker.

For argument sake, let's say Leicester wants Maguire back, how much do you think they will be willing to pay? 8-15m MAX. How much do you think they are willing to pay on his wage? 100K MAX. So whatever we can get for Maguire, half will end up in Maguire's pocket if we want him to LEAVE on peace.

IMO still worthwhile. Keep Lindelof as backup, get Maguire and Varane off our book, find a young RHS CB who can play 35 games a season.
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It would be cheaper to sell Lindelof and keep Maguire, Varane is already gone, and neither heor Casemiro were 31 when they signed for United
 
We'll need:
1 x GK (Harrison in place of Bayindir?)
2 x CB (Varane, Lindelof/Maguire out - Evans may be worth retaining as a backup)
2x CM (DVB, Eriksen, Amrabat, Hannibal out)
2x forwards (Antony, Greenwood, Martial out - Wheatley as a backup?)
1 x LB (AWB out, depends on how Amass is seen)

I don't think we should sell Casemiro.
 
bringbackbebe said:
We'll need:
1 x GK (Harrison in place of Bayindir?)
2 x CB (Varane, Lindelof/Maguire out - Evans may be worth retaining as a backup)
2x CM (DVB, Eriksen, Amrabat, Hannibal out)
2x forwards (Antony, Greenwood, Martial out - Wheatley as a backup?)
1 x LB (AWB out, depends on how Amass is seen)

I don't think we should sell Casemiro.
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We don't need 2x CM, just need to figure out HOW to play Mount as a CM, and how to use McTom effectively in the middle.
 
cyril C said:
We don't need 2x CM, just need to figure out HOW to play Mount as a CM, and how to use McTom effectively in the middle.
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We'll just have Mainoo, Casemiro, Bruno, Mount, McT for 3 positions. Mount can't fit alongside Bruno except in a compact style and against weak teams.
 
The perfect summer:

1) Saudi club wants Casemeiro pay us 50M ( bought 70M).
2) Saudi club wants Antony pay us 50M (bought 80M)
3) Dortmund pay us 50M for Sancho (bought 85M)
4) Juventus pay us 30M for Greenwood

The rest depending on circumstances and needs. We have 180M from the sales and add 200M annual budget, we have 380M next season for rebuild. Hopefully with a new manager of Ineos Team preference.
 
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