So in this endless debates about the list of best players ever I noticed that sometimes we might have been unfair to some English players, from the present or the past. Maybe I am wrong but didn't saw any England player on the list of the top 5 or 10 players ever.
As controversial as this debates always are, beacuse it's difficulto to compare players from different eras I created this topic because as far as I am concerned there was only one named in 2016 "Who is England's best player" probably related with the Euro 2016 subject, didn't took the time to read it.
I must confess that I struggle to give an objective answer for this. I am not going to be stupid here and say I know a lot about that first Ballon d'Or winner, a certain Stanley Matthews was the best ever, but when legends like Beckenbauer said this " the speed and skill Matthews possessed meant that "almost no one in the game could stop him" means something.
Or what about 1966 Ballon d'Or winner, a certain Bobby Charlton, who won it by a single point against a peak Eusébio, who arguably is the only player in his peak in Portugal who some might say was as good as CR7 if not better (62/68) or the third placed on that list was a certain Beckenbauer...
And what about Kevin Keegan, how good he was compared with the other 2 giants, again, not having watched much about him it's meaningless to say anything, but he certainly was on the list of best European players in the mid 70's until the beginning of the 80's.
As someone who doesn't have an answer, since I watch football the most notorious players from England since Italy 90 was the generation of Lineker, Barnes, Beardsley, Gascoigne, later it was Shearer, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney.
Will say if I had the chance to watch more things about him my favourite English player in the 80's would be Glenn Hoddle, after him from the great Marseille under Tappie would love Chris Waddle, and I am not ashamed to say the best midfielder I watched for United since the 90's was Paul Scholes, there's nothing close to him, reason why the Spanish players and the Guardiola type of fans always rated more him than Beckham, and he also gave me more pleasure to watch than any other English player.
Finally, there was a time when I was more obsessed with CR7 that probably made me being unfair to appreciate Wayne Rooney peak for United and England, it's a bit the same level of unfairness we had in Portugal regarding Nani for the NT compared with CR7 (not comparing Nani with Rooney, stay calm).
Is there anyone on the current England generation who can be compared with this former greats? I got to say that Harry Kane is a top player and certain things he does are great to watch, but don't know if without the big titles the great players must win he can be part of that list.
For the future I see lots of potential for Bellingham but it's soon to say how good he will be, thought the same about Sancho, even if for me the best England player in this planet and other galaxy is obviously Marcus Edwards, and I will not tolerate a discussion about this.
Explain to me who was the best ever, and why. Not with the same shit analysis by Messi vs Ronaldo fanboys, fed up with them, even if I was one of them, and toxic when I had to be.
As controversial as this debates always are, beacuse it's difficulto to compare players from different eras I created this topic because as far as I am concerned there was only one named in 2016 "Who is England's best player" probably related with the Euro 2016 subject, didn't took the time to read it.
I must confess that I struggle to give an objective answer for this. I am not going to be stupid here and say I know a lot about that first Ballon d'Or winner, a certain Stanley Matthews was the best ever, but when legends like Beckenbauer said this " the speed and skill Matthews possessed meant that "almost no one in the game could stop him" means something.
Or what about 1966 Ballon d'Or winner, a certain Bobby Charlton, who won it by a single point against a peak Eusébio, who arguably is the only player in his peak in Portugal who some might say was as good as CR7 if not better (62/68) or the third placed on that list was a certain Beckenbauer...
And what about Kevin Keegan, how good he was compared with the other 2 giants, again, not having watched much about him it's meaningless to say anything, but he certainly was on the list of best European players in the mid 70's until the beginning of the 80's.
As someone who doesn't have an answer, since I watch football the most notorious players from England since Italy 90 was the generation of Lineker, Barnes, Beardsley, Gascoigne, later it was Shearer, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney.
Will say if I had the chance to watch more things about him my favourite English player in the 80's would be Glenn Hoddle, after him from the great Marseille under Tappie would love Chris Waddle, and I am not ashamed to say the best midfielder I watched for United since the 90's was Paul Scholes, there's nothing close to him, reason why the Spanish players and the Guardiola type of fans always rated more him than Beckham, and he also gave me more pleasure to watch than any other English player.
Finally, there was a time when I was more obsessed with CR7 that probably made me being unfair to appreciate Wayne Rooney peak for United and England, it's a bit the same level of unfairness we had in Portugal regarding Nani for the NT compared with CR7 (not comparing Nani with Rooney, stay calm).
Is there anyone on the current England generation who can be compared with this former greats? I got to say that Harry Kane is a top player and certain things he does are great to watch, but don't know if without the big titles the great players must win he can be part of that list.
For the future I see lots of potential for Bellingham but it's soon to say how good he will be, thought the same about Sancho, even if for me the best England player in this planet and other galaxy is obviously Marcus Edwards, and I will not tolerate a discussion about this.
Explain to me who was the best ever, and why. Not with the same shit analysis by Messi vs Ronaldo fanboys, fed up with them, even if I was one of them, and toxic when I had to be.