Which club in the PL is better run than Manchester United?

I think the only club that has been run as badly as United in recent years are Everton. I'd rank us as the worst run club simply because of the obscene amounts of money squandered. We could've had a world class squad on par with City had we been run well

Yeah it's hard to argue with that
 
Every single one and I’m including Everton and Chelsea when I say that, the mismanagement of United has been going on for at the very least 12-13 years as with our income/revenue we should be only behind City at most but years of piss poor management have left us nearly a billion in debt and at best a top four club instead of a powerhouse.
 
how do you know about my testicle? i’ve never posted about it on here.

yeah but 90% of you can’t wait to do the same with qatar. you’re 15 years behind us and out of luck and out of time. your turn at being the manchester tramp for the next 50 years.
You ruin your argument with this exaggeration. It's only 63%.
 
Manchester United was very well run under the Glazers. It just wasn't focused on being a successful football team, it was focused on making money. Whereas City was.
Long term, dynasties of success breed a loyal global fan base for at least a few generations (I.e. us under SAF) ,which is the best long financial strategy
 
I have seen a lot of voices on the CAF stated that our issue is we are badly run and not about money. We only need the Glazers gone, top football people on top making decisions and we'd dominate again...etc.

So this thread is just an overview to see which club in the PL is better run than us (Apart from City obviously) and what can we learn from observing how they are run?
No one will have a clue how every other club is run in the premier league.

Close thread.
 
You ruin your argument with this exaggeration. It's only 63%.

publicly, but privately it’s a lot more. some of the sites most prominent posters, not to mention the majority of the site admins, private message me regularly, asking for advice on how to cope with the constant success and how they’re deeply worried ratcliffe might win the bid. a few have even mentioned defecting and supporting city if qatar’s bid unsuccessful, but i told them that that’s not on.
 
It's tempting to say no one except Everton and this season's Chelsea.

But Spurs are not much better although maybe they don't spend as much money.

I have no love for our management but it feels like it's more a case of a lot of well-run clubs, especially in the top 10 (Arsenal, Brighton, Newcastle, Villa, Liverpool) than us being atrocious.

It's more the fact we've got such a huge ceiling as a club that makes people always somewhat overestimate how badly we're run.

The transfer dealings are still a bit of a shambles untill proven otherwise though.
 
Manchester United was very well run under the Glazers. It just wasn't focused on being a successful football team, it was focused on making money. Whereas City was.

Glazers themselves weren't the problem if you think about it. They offered enough money for the football team to sign top players. The problem is the people they hired to run the football side of the club. If they hired someone competent rather than a clown like Woodward, their investment in the football team wouldn't have looked so bad.
 
Depends what you mean. United are probably the best run as as a business if you ask owners who don’t care about what happens on the pitch. We make a huge amount of money for the Glazers and they’re about to sell (hopefully) for insane profit.

City are awful as a business, it’s just a financial blackhole. If one day someone finds out the real amount of money that’s gone into that club it will be mind blowing.
 
Long term, dynasties of success breed a loyal global fan base for at least a few generations (I.e. us under SAF) ,which is the best long financial strategy

The Glazers weren't interested in long term. They would have invested if they were. It was always a rentier capitalism cash machine model with a sale at the end.
 
Glazers themselves weren't the problem if you think about it. They offered enough money for the football team to sign top players. The problem is the people they hired to run the football side of the club. If they hired someone competent rather than a clown like Woodward, their investment in the football team wouldn't have looked so bad.

That's a common misunderstanding. If you constantly make commercial decisions over football ones and put somebody in charge with that mentality then this is what you get. e.g Ronaldo
 
Worst run clubs than us are Spurs, Chelsea, Everton, and Leicester.
 
When it comes to scouting, buying and selling players including negotiating and offering contract extensions, we must be the worst by some distance. Despite the Glazers sucking the club dry, we could have had a world class team today if the money had been spent more wisely.
 
they’re just charges, they mean nothing at this stage, just like my caution for indecent exposure.
Are you saying the charges are made up? They paint a pretty damning picture at this point.
 
Are you saying the charges are made up? They paint a pretty damning picture at this point.

all i’m saying is that if it’s small enough that you can’t see it, then does it really exist?
 
That's a common misunderstanding. If you constantly make commercial decisions over football ones and put somebody in charge with that mentality then this is what you get. e.g Ronaldo

I mean they could have avoided a lot of this if they had just put someone competent in charge of football team while they focused on the business side.
 
That's not a pound for pound argument. During the past decade United actually won things, often outperformed clubs that have also spent a lot such as Chelsea or Liverpool. Now it's fair to say that we expected more and that we wanted to see the club higher in the rankings but United are pound for pound far from the worst. In fact in England the undisputed winners are Everton, they spent a lot, won nothing and have steadily regressed to relegation contention.
What Metric you based that on? because its not trophies.
 
What Metric you based that on? because its not trophies.

Season by season, United outperformed all of these teams during certain seasons and they outperformed United in others. And United also won trophies during the past decade.

Are these two statements incorrect?
 
I mean they could have avoided a lot of this if they had just put someone competent in charge of football team while they focused on the business side.

That person would have clashed with the business person as to who called the shots. Which is why they put smiling yes man Ole in charge instead. Which worked until it didn't.
 
After very careful consideration, I must agree with @rimaldo

you sound like all the people that never used to sit around me at maine road. i’ve been not attending games with the best of city fans for years now.
 
you sound like all the people that never used to sit around me at maine road. i’ve been not attending games with the best of city fans for years now.
Same. I'm the most tribal toppest Feyenoord supporter around, but I never set foot in Rotterdam. Fecking shithole.
 
How much money did Abrahamovic write off for Chelsea? I question whether that’s how a well run club runs. The number of managers he is fired says he is made more bad decisions on that front than United, only difference he never let those mistakes get pregnant. I think his running of that club should have been investigated ages ago.

It’s just Everton with trophies.
 
Are you saying the charges are made up? They paint a pretty damning picture at this point.
They painted a damning picture for MG and what happened there?

The problem is that none of us have seen the "proof" apart from the hacked email stuff that the German paper printed, if all this evidence the PL have is so damning why haven't they acted on it.

Now I think City have been cheating, common sense says that, but maybe the evidence isn't as clear cut as it was made out to be
 
Worse run than United:

Everton
Chelsea
Spurs
Arsenal
Southampton
Leicester
West Ham
Wolves
Forest
Leeds
Aston Villa
 
Most of them really, if judging by the past 10 years.
 
Stop talking bad about our club you traitors. We're fine! Top 4 this season, you forgot?