Which big signing and where would they take us?

we are never really going to sign a player at his peak from barca, bayern or madrid that they want to keep...we never have...

But signing players on the cusp, like a roy keane in 93, a hazard at lille, griezmann at sociedad, silva at valencia or an aguero at city..

we need to sign players that are desperate to be here...you can hear when someone like darmian or herrera speaks about the club, that it really is a dream for them....im not talking about tosic, obertan punts...but good players ready to take that final step..

We dont really need big names for marketing purposes..,is it really a coincidence that the two most marketable footballers in the last 20 years became stars here? We can make stars for brand purposes
Love how u snuck in Aguero at City :lol:
 
I hope we can stop obsessing about big signings, we do it every season and it's so small time. You don't hear of any other big club going on about this every summer.
 
I hope we can stop obsessing about big signings, we do it every season and it's so small time. You don't hear of any other big club going on about this every summer.

You probably do on their forums?
 
I hope we can stop obsessing about big signings, we do it every season and it's so small time. You don't hear of any other big club going on about this every summer.

Do you follow many other big teams?
 
Llorente is still available guys.

  • He is tall and big= so big signing.
  • Can play as classic 9.
  • Better than Fellaini at forward position.
  • Will gel well with United's Spanish contingent
and much more...
10/10 would recommend.
 
Do you follow many other big teams?

This is 2015, and there's social media. We are starting to appear small time with this big signing talks every summer, it's fine if you like it, but that's what I think about it.
 
Has anyone said yet that with the shambles Madrid look to be in under Rafa, Ronnie might be more open to moving? Pipe dream obviously, or is it?
 
I only think one name there is realistic, and is also the type of player we should be pursuing rather than pipe dreams (but unfortunately I don't want him at United) and he does not deserve to be in the mix with those other players named.

He might end up in that bracket but he's not there yet. I reckon currently he's somewhere between a Memphis & Sterling.

Wait, do you actually rate Sterling as high or even higher than one of the four names? I´m sorry, but what?

Müller is easily the most accomplished of the four, while Neymar has probably the highest amount of raw talent/ability. This leaves Bale and Reus.

Now if we look past the British media hype and focus on the things that actually matter, which are performances, then Bale has done nothing so far which puts him above Reus. In terms of domestical perfomances, Bale´s strongest season 2012/2013 (and the main reason why he is rated so highly in Great Britain) was matched by Reus in terms of scoring in 2013/2014 while playing around 700 minutes less. Bale´s first season at Real was good but not better than Reus´ first season for Dortmund, let alone his more impressive last season for Gladbach.

Comparing them in the CL is even less favourable for Bale, because Reus had overall simply the higher impact there.
 
Llorente is still available guys.

  • He is tall and big= so big signing.
  • Can play as classic 9.
  • Better than Fellaini at forward position.
  • Will gel well with United's Spanish contingent
and much more...
10/10 would recommend.
:lol:
 
Llorente is still available guys.

  • He is tall and big= so big signing.
  • Can play as classic 9.
  • Better than Fellaini at forward position.
  • Will gel well with United's Spanish contingent
and much more...
10/10 would recommend.
:lol: Nice try
No chance, he was Juve worse player last season they would have done better with 10 men then play him
 
I know it was pre season and all. But PSG are crazy to let Zlatan go considering how good he looked Vs Us. The guy was everywhere, and is technically perfect!

Id have him here for year to play number 10 behind Rooney.
 
Wait, do you actually rate Sterling as high or even higher than one of the four names? I´m sorry, but what?

Müller is easily the most accomplished of the four, while Neymar has probably the highest amount of raw talent/ability. This leaves Bale and Reus.

Now if we look past the British media hype and focus on the things that actually matter, which are performances, then Bale has done nothing so far which puts him above Reus. In terms of domestical perfomances, Bale´s strongest season 2012/2013 (and the main reason why he is rated so highly in Great Britain) was matched by Reus in terms of scoring in 2013/2014 while playing around 700 minutes less. Bale´s first season at Real was good but not better than Reus´ first season for Dortmund, let alone his more impressive last season for Gladbach.

Comparing them in the CL is even less favourable for Bale, because Reus had overall simply the higher impact there.

You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. Not sure that he will be anywhere near as effective in the Premier League. probably better suited to Spain IMHO.

btw: please do not think that I'm overly influenced by the sensationalist British Press either. I live down the road from you and I'm influenced by the equally sensationalist German media just like you are too! :p
 
As none of our 'main' target is available this summer. I'd want us to sign someone like Sheringham or Henrik Larsson in the past. Good experience striker who wouldn't mind sitting on the bench, have experience at hig level, and still can perform when needed.

Just in case Rooney or Chica get injured, and we only have Wilson as the backup for a long season.
 
All about Griezmann. Can play in any one of the front four positions.

Would be a very, very astute signing.
 
Sign no one and be patient. A player will pop up in future. No point spending money for the sake of it.
 
Agree with Griezmann. Would be seriously special.

£50, 60, 70 million, the club has money coming out its ears. Blow a chunk of it.
 
Sign no one and be patient. A player will pop up in future. No point spending money for the sake of it.

This.

I don't understand how United have come in for any criticism at all this transfer window. The obvious weaknesses in the squad have been sorted out well and now it's just a question of seeing if any really special players become available. Ramos would have been that for the defence, Muller for the forward position, Bale for the wing. The latter is who the club really want imo and while he seems fairly unattainable this summer that could soon change. If he fails as a #10 will Perez still back him and will Bale himself want to stay if he remains as unpopular with Madrid fans as he is at the moment?
 
1. Who would you rather have? Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus or other
(excluding Messi & Ronaldo)

2. Where what that player take us in comparison to other big teams? Would we stand on par with Madrid/ Barca & Bayern?

3. Would you rather we didn't chase these big unattainable names and concentrate on more realistic targets, ending any chance of getting these big stars, but meaning you could well have had a few lesser signings already, such as maybe Garay & Benteke

Well of the big name signings above I think I'd go for Bale. Don't get me wrong Neymar is the better player but he's not proven in the Premier League whereas Bale is. If you were to tell me though that Neymar would 100% be a success then I think I'd take him.

It would take us to the next level of we were to get a top top attacking player. I'm not sure it would take us to the Real, Barca and Bayern level but it probably takes us to the next team below those. It would give us a player who can win games on his own. So games like the Newcastle game they'd produce that moment of magic to win the game. Ultimately I think that will be the difference between us challenging for the title and not.

I think most of our business is now done. What we've managed to do over the last couple of years is build a quality squad. Players like Rojo, Fellaini and Blind are all quality squad players who will play an important part. What the team needs now is it of magic. A bit of star dust that wins us games. In years gone by we've had that from players like Cantona and Ronaldo. Now we have the foundations of a solid team that needs some inspiration in some games.
 
Cavani?. So PSG would lose Zlatan and Cavani?. Clearly that isnt going to happen.
For me it should be Griezmann and 1 other to finally complete the squad. Would make next summers spend alot less important too and would closer bridge any gaps between us and the other clubs in the league.
 
How about both? :)

If you force me.... :angel:

Reus
Memphis Herrera Griez
Schenid Schwein

Although, I'd probably pick 2 of Griez/ Reus/ Memphis for the wings. None of the 3 can play a traditional CF, unless you play it on the floor and make him a f9 who drops to a trequartista position.
 
Reus. I don't know why you he isn't linked with more clubs this transfer window.
 
Reus. I don't know why you he isn't linked with more clubs this transfer window.


Probably because BVB has zero intention of selling and he isnt ready to leave just yet, IMO he is destined for Spain when he is ready to go.
 
Reus. I don't know why you he isn't linked with more clubs this transfer window.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11899/9927621/marco-reus-flattered-by-transfer-speculation

"We read the rumours that are circulating about an alleged transfer for Marco," the agency said in a statement released to Tuttojuve.com.

"We can say with certainty that the player is having a wonderful time at Dortmund. He is flattered by the interest of many European teams, but he's recently decided to stay in Dortmund."
 
So we are being linked with a host of names this season that seem unattainable, such as Neymar, Bale, Muller & Reus.

1. Who would you rather have? Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus or other
(excluding Messi & Ronaldo)

2. Where what that player take us in comparison to other big teams? Would we stand on par with Madrid/ Barca & Bayern?

3. Would you rather we didn't chase these big unattainable names and concentrate on more realistic targets, ending any chance of getting these big stars, but meaning you could well have had a few lesser signings already, such as maybe Garay & Benteke

Could we possibly get a poll added for the 3 options with variations?
Neymar > Muller > Reus > Bale.

The first two are impossible to get, and both of Neymar and Muller are at least a level above Reus and Bale (Griezmann IMO is in the same level with the last two). Reus and Bale will be available next season IMO, while Griezmann is possibly available now if we pay 60m pounds.
 
Reus or Bale would be perfect. Sadly I don't see either happening. I don't think the caf is going to get their big muppet signing this summer.
 
So we are being linked with a host of names this season that seem unattainable, such as Neymar, Bale, Muller & Reus.

1. Who would you rather have? Neymar, Bale, Muller, Reus or other
(excluding Messi & Ronaldo)

2. Where what that player take us in comparison to other big teams? Would we stand on par with Madrid/ Barca & Bayern?

3. Would you rather we didn't chase these big unattainable names and concentrate on more realistic targets, ending any chance of getting these big stars, but meaning you could well have had a few lesser signings already, such as maybe Garay & Benteke

Could we possibly get a poll added for the 3 options with variations?

1- Bale
2- No
3- No
 
Why would you pay above his release clause? Got too excited at the notion of blowing it (the money)?
I've read in a few places that releases clauses in Spain when the player is being sold to a foreign team has little meaning. The stated release clause is jumping off point. Kinda like "Offer this and we'll listen..."
 
The biggest signing for me is? VG picking the right team, which starts and continues the development of the herrera and mata partnership. We have the players, he just needs to get the right team on the pitch.
 
I've read in a few places that releases clauses in Spain when the player is being sold to a foreign team has little meaning. The stated release clause is jumping off point. Kinda like "Offer this and we'll listen..."
Tell that to Herrera and Martinez.
 
But signing players on the cusp, like a roy keane in 93, a hazard at lille, griezmann at sociedad, silva at valencia or an aguero at city..

Buying Griezmann for £60M isnt buying at the "cusp".
If we pay a transfer record, I'd expect the player bought, to be at his peak.
As an example, Barca got Suarez for a huge sum of money, when he was at his absolute peak. They were buying a player of the highest quality.
We got Di Maria for a huge sum, when he had just had his best season (again, at his absolute peak). MUFC supporters loved this guy when he was here, but turned on him when he went to PSG. He is a player of the highest quality, who can win games for his team.

For an upcoming player, I'd expect somewhere in the region of £30M, which is what we paid for Depay.
The other problem with upcoming players is that they have considerable risk. You could get a gem like Ronaldo or Hazard, who become great. Or you could end up with someone like Anderson or Andy Carroll, who fizzle out into nothingness.

If we cant get someone at their peak (and pay £60M+), then I'd go for someone who is past their best, for a cheap price, high wages, but a short contract.
Examples of these types of players are Bastian, Larent Blanc, Henrik Larson, Sherringham.
 
Buying Griezmann for £60M isnt buying at the "cusp".
If we pay a transfer record, I'd expect the player bought, to be at his peak.
As an example, Barca got Suarez for a huge sum of money, when he was at his absolute peak. They were buying a player of the highest quality.
We got Di Maria for a huge sum, when he had just had his best season (again, at his absolute peak). MUFC supporters loved this guy when he was here, but turned on him when he went to PSG. He is a player of the highest quality, who can win games for his team.

For an upcoming player, I'd expect somewhere in the region of £30M, which is what we paid for Depay.
The other problem with upcoming players is that they have considerable risk. You could get a gem like Ronaldo or Hazard, who become great. Or you could end up with someone like Anderson or Andy Carroll, who fizzle out into nothingness.

If we cant get someone at their peak (and pay £60M+), then I'd go for someone who is past their best, for a cheap price, high wages, but a short contract.
Examples of these types of players are Bastian, Larent Blanc, Henrik Larson, Sherringham.
He had a buyout clause of 42 mil just recently before the new contract..and I think Griezmann is much further than most..he has done well not just at Atletico, but even before his big move at Sociedad..and we arent getting anyone for cheaper with as much talent really

Which older player can we get? I can only thing of one Swede