Where exactly did Radiohead go wrong?

Well, my friend... You're done in this argument. Ludacris or any of the rest of these commercial fecks you list? feck sake. You really think they have the talent of foresight of Gaye or even Jackson? Busta Rhymes for feck sake! You might as well list Flavor Flav! And hilariously, the only reason you list Eminem is due to Dr. Dre's contributions. But you don't see it. What a joke.

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What in the world is wrong with you?

What argument? The discussion is about Radiohead and your opinion of them was so daft you've totally diverted the subject.

You get this strange and odd perception I don't know the divisions of R&B & Hip-Hop... where this entire argument came from in the first place is beyond me.

Who said I was comparing Ludacris to the legendary Marvin Gaye? How do you come to these conclusions of my very own opinion without actually getting information from me that suggests this?

But that's a sidenote that doesn't need explaining beause clearly you're winding yourself up beyond reason.

You asked me a question of my favorite artists in hip-hop, and I list a very sound list and even put in parentesis (Pre-Aftermath) because that's when their careers went downhill.

The musical aspect of hip-hop isn't based on the artist, but the composers and producers, in which I have a massive respect for myself BEING A feckING RAPPER.

Great producers such as the late J Dilla, Black Milk, 9th Wonder, Dr.Dre etc etc etc make hip-hop sound beautifully, but what would it be without the words spit by Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes, Little Brother, etc? It would be modern instrumental music, not hip-hop.

So you're stating the emcee is the reason hip-hop is lacking? feck me.

I don't understand you mate.
 
Idiot

Kid A / Amnesiac is not a double album.

and if you want to be schooled in the ways of hiphop then start a new thread and you might learn something.

The definition of a double album is a multiple released on a single recording session. So tell me how Kid A and Amnesiac was not a double...

Christ, this is getting worse and worse.
 
Great producers such as the late J Dilla, Black Milk, 9th Wonder, Dr.Dre etc etc etc make hip-hop sound beautifully, but what would it be without the words spit by Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes, Little Brother, etc? It would be modern instrumental music, not hip-hop.

Would be the shite that it is.
 
The definition of a double album is a multiple released on a single recording session. So tell me how Kid A and Amnesiac was not a double...

Christ, this is getting worse and worse.

Yes indeed - you started badly and have gone steadily downhill.

that might be your defintion of a double album but it cetainly isnt mine - anyway you are obviously a lost cause ...
 
Yes indeed - you started badly and have gone steadily downhill.

that might be your defintion of a double album but it cetainly isnt mine - anyway you are obviously a lost cause ...

Right. My definition isn't yours which means your definition is pointless. And yes, I am a lost cause. I'm a lost cause to you kids who know and appreciate shite in regard to music. Jog on. You're obviously in possession of some piece of brilliance which I know nothing of . I plead with you to teach me. Please teach me.

Ah, never mind. feck off. Enjoy your Avril Lavinge and Justin Timberlake. You are forward thinkers of which I am unable to adhere. Congratulations.
 
Also your definition isn't double album = album consisting of two discs, which means your definition is wrong.

Right. Album consisting of three discs, then? Why don't you boys go have a circle jerk over you latest sextuplet album consisting of three chords. Congratulations.
 
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That makes zero sense... Without the words it'd be shit? With words it'd be shit? Are you saying hip-hop is shit?

Did you NOT just praise Dr.Dre?

Has it taken this long for you to get my point? It's not as if hip hop consists of only Dr. Dre and Andre3000. Rather, those two are the only two shining stars of the supposed up and coming new rage in music over the last two decades.
 
Therein lies the problem. There are three parts that compose music... rhythm, melody and harmony. 99.9% of rap addresses only one of these.

No it doesn't. I guess you are referring to rhythm. So you reckon that 99.9% of rap music contains no concept of melody or harmony?

Your comments seem to suggest you don't know what the terms actually mean.
 
What a strange thread, it seems JCurr is just trying to pick a fight if they don't agree with him.

You can't argue with peoples taste so leave it.
 
What a strange thread, it seems JCurr is just trying to pick a fight if they don't agree with him.

You can't argue with peoples taste so leave it.

Thought Anderson Searl summed it up quite nicely with this one:

"... beause clearly you're winding yourself up beyond reason."
 
Kid A is like a little hidden cave in the music world. Each time I return to it I find something new which excites me. It is also one of those rare albums which feels applicable to almost any mood I might be in.

I can understand some people might not like it, and that's up to them. Radiohead are a band where, as a listener, you get out of it what you put into it.
 
Kid A is like a little hidden cave in the music world. Each time I return to it I find something new which excites me. It is also one of those rare albums which feels applicable to almost any mood I might be in.

I can understand some people might not like it, and that's up to them. Radiohead are a band where, as a listener, you get out of it what you put into it.

Yes, and yes.

Love The Eraser as well (Thom Yorke solo album), doesn't get enough mentions in these types of threads for me.
 
Yes, 'The Eraser' is good too...although I don't think it is up there with Radiohead's work.

Maybe we should give JCurr a copy of Bodysong? With any luck it might make him explode.
 
Yes, 'The Eraser' is good too...although I don't think it is up there with Radiohead's work.

Maybe we should give JCurr a copy of Bodysong? With any luck it might make him explode.

True, although it was a good filler album whilst waiting for In Rainbows.

As for Bodysong, that seems like far too good a way for him to go, I'd much prefer to see him bitch slapped with GB's numpty stick myself.
 
For me:

OK Computer>In Rainbows>The Bends>Hail to the Thief>Kid A>Amnesiac>Pablo Honey.

It`s very close between In Rainbows and The Bends though. They could be the other way around in a few weeks.
 
For me:

OK Computer>In Rainbows>The Bends>Hail to the Thief>Kid A>Amnesiac>Pablo Honey.

It`s very close between In Rainbows and The Bends though. They could be the other way around in a few weeks.

I would put The Bends straight after OK Comp and I havent listened to In Rainbows enough to judge properly - probably agree with the rest
 
For me:

OK Computer>In Rainbows>The Bends>Hail to the Thief>Kid A>Amnesiac>Pablo Honey.

It`s very close between In Rainbows and The Bends though. They could be the other way around in a few weeks.

Changes on a daily basis for me tbh.
 
Alright, actually coherent now. Here's my sober take. First, let me make two points clear...

1. I do deem Radiohead the finest band on earth. They have been for some time. And sacred cows are all the more worthy of discussion, no?

2. Not to be contrary, but anyone who rates any album of the lot over or anywhere near Ok Computer is outside their mind. Sorry. But it's an instant classic. Those words don't get thrown around often. And there isn't a music critic who disagrees with that labeling. It was the single best record of the 90's.

Back to the original point of the thread, the question is whether or not Radiohead's(Yorke's) obsessive fear of not progressing musically has robbed us(the fans) of more Ok Computeresque iconic rock & roll. After all, Thom is a complete spastic on top of the fact that he is a very smart lad. Often musicians are intellectuals. But not often are musicians of this crop such smart lads. The combination of Thom's spasticity and the urge to overthink and overanalyze has Radiohead where they are now. Bold as hell. No doubt. But while the most would say the band has progressed musically, I would have to disagree. There's no progression from an album like Ok Computer. That was the problem. As Thom stated, "a total mindfeck"...
 
Oh and the ratings should go as such...

Ok Computer>Kid A>The Bends>Hail to the Thief>In Rainbows>Amnesiac>Pablo Honey
 
Oh and the ratings should go as such...

Ok Computer>Kid A>The Bends>Hail to the Thief>In Rainbows>Amnesiac>Pablo Honey

Should? It's called opinion, we're entitled to them, now shut the feck up, nobody gives a shit anymore.
 
Should? It's called opinion, we're entitled to them, now shut the feck up, nobody gives a shit anymore.

Thank you,

In Rainbows is a fine piece of work, and I think many including myself rates it #2.

Not saying your opinion is wrong, just somewhat daft you want a bands sound and style to be the same through their career.
 
They havent ever allowed themselves to get stale, they changed their sound quite dramatically with each album. Even the Kid A and Amenesiac which were recorded during the same sessions have quite a different feel to them. In short you are never going to write two OK Computers, they could easily have continued to churn out the bends but it shows their ambition and their creativity to always want to change. feck being like the Rolling Stones or some pish and trying to recreate your best work every time you make an album, it's not going to happen. Move on or give up i say.
 
Thank you,

In Rainbows is a fine piece of work, and I think many including myself rates it #2.

Not saying your opinion is wrong, just somewhat daft you want a bands sound and style to be the same through their career.

Never said that. I said an album or two possibly. Ok Computer is considered the masterpiece it is because there is balance between the music and the technology. Many think they've gone a bit carried away with the toys these days. And Thom's melodies have suffered greatly with the last two offerings if you ask me. In Rainbows is pleasant. I like it, sure. But it's a bit more like background music than a rock record.