I think that the new manager will decide whether we get Moyes targets or not just as what happened with Garay (a rumoured SAF target which Moyes refused to sign)
Where does this leave our transfer targets?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Well being a World Cup summer the transfer window is going to be a mess anyways. You either have to sign players quickly right after the season ends (or have the deals already in place and just announce them) or you have to wait till after the world cup. Even for players not in the cup there seems to be a lull in activity during that time.
Given the mess we made of last summer and this season the sooner you can announce some signings, some quality signings that is, the better. We need to get a manager in place quickly soon after the season ends and get him to work right away. Even if he needs a vacation (ala Moyes) he better be on the phone with the club at least once a day pushing his plan.
In terms of players leaving, it really is the same issue. We need the new manager in place as soon as possible to either change players minds (those we want to keep) or to clear out those we do not want. But those decisions need to be made quickly so that our transfer policy can be clear, nto talking about clear to us but clear to the people implementing it.
Given the mess we made of last summer and this season the sooner you can announce some signings, some quality signings that is, the better. We need to get a manager in place quickly soon after the season ends and get him to work right away. Even if he needs a vacation (ala Moyes) he better be on the phone with the club at least once a day pushing his plan.
In terms of players leaving, it really is the same issue. We need the new manager in place as soon as possible to either change players minds (those we want to keep) or to clear out those we do not want. But those decisions need to be made quickly so that our transfer policy can be clear, nto talking about clear to us but clear to the people implementing it.
Should press ahead with Shaw if it's being lined up. He's going to be top class, any new manager would soon realise that.
Along with Gaitain and all the rest we were signing, sure
If the Carvalho deal is true then I doubt he cares who the manager is. He's getting a move to a top tier club and a big pay increase as well. Shaw seems to be the target of multiple clubs so he could be more problematic.
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My friend txt me SSN are reporting all transfer dealings are to be "ripped up" from Moyes tenure.....any trutyh in that?
I'm more concerned where it leaves us with our clearout.
There are about 10 players that need to move on.
There are about 10 players that need to move on.
Agree that there are players that aren't good enough, but it would be a bloody stupid idea to get rid if we've got no players lined up to replace them. We cannot go into next season with half a squad.
I think this will provide perfect excuse for glazers to put the war chest away for another season because A) it might not be needed if we get the right man in and B) they can say the manager wants to get to know the players before splashing any cash.
How long has this war chest eluded us for now?
How long has this war chest eluded us for now?
Van Gaal sounds like just about the most boring FM manager ever. Doesn't like to sign prospects? Works with the players he has? Rubbish!
In RL he better get his twig and berries out on the regular to keep things interesting, we all know Mata, DDG and Rio are enormous transfer muppets.
In RL he better get his twig and berries out on the regular to keep things interesting, we all know Mata, DDG and Rio are enormous transfer muppets.
It's kind of funny when you think about it.
Moyes had already been fired secretly in March in the minds of the owners yet there he is, diligently traveling around the globe, planning for "next year", talking up his plans. The project, the rebuild, the whole dream of selling us a house he had not yet built. Moyes was scouting, negotiating, making moves, putting money out on the street. And boom, he's gone.
Moyes had already been fired secretly in March in the minds of the owners yet there he is, diligently traveling around the globe, planning for "next year", talking up his plans. The project, the rebuild, the whole dream of selling us a house he had not yet built. Moyes was scouting, negotiating, making moves, putting money out on the street. And boom, he's gone.
It's at the end of a rainbow, somewhere deep in County Wicklow, guarded by leprechauns.
surely it can only help us sign the right players with a world renowned manager coming in, rather than a Moysie.
Yes. Players talk. When our players go off on internationals they'll talk to their team mates and tell them how dire it was, how backwards the training was, how uninspiring the coaching was and all the rest of it. There wouldn't have been many targets who wouldn't have been aware at the unrest and problems at the club.
Shaw should still be an automatic target, we've no real top class options at leftback in the squad. He's young, English & is going to be a top top player.
I'd say about 27.
if the new manager does not get Carvalho....I'm not supporting him. 
Apparently the Glazers didn't agree with Moyes' idea that we needed to spend big. My guess is that the money we had to spend was a figment of the medias imagination.
That's what I was thinking too and why would all the reports of a deal for Carvalho being near done. Why are we negotiating transfers if it was all planned to get rid of Moyes. Maybe some of the targets are board targets or they were just taking the piss out of Moyes and letting him do this all for no reason.
It was probably happier times around Carrington with his sourpuss off in Portugal and Latvia. Let him go scout, at least we don't have to listen to his depressing waffle.
I can only imagine this will help up sign players.
I mean our next coach, whether it's Van Gaal, Klopp or Simone etc, players will have a much bigger urge to go for one of these over Moyes.
I mean our next coach, whether it's Van Gaal, Klopp or Simone etc, players will have a much bigger urge to go for one of these over Moyes.
There were reports that the club was pursuing players it wanted regardless of Moyes' intentions. By that, I mean that they were looking for players who would suit Moyes or whomever takes over going forward because they are high quality and not system-based like Fellaini. Woodward would also have been involved in the transfers.
He should have twigged when he was sent off in a hot-air balloon to scout talent in the amazon.
To be fair VG has conveniently took a holiday to Portugal. The distance between Algarve and Lisbon is around 2 hours.
I've been saying this all along. I sincerely doubt Moyes has had much of a say in the targets we aim for and has had more of an impact of "selling himself as manager". Trips to Germany, Portugal, Spain would have been made by whoever the manager is. Funny now you see him gone that Woodward was at the Madrid-Bayern game tonight. Picking up where Moyes left off? Or simply doing what he intended Moyes to do.
To me it seems Woodward is performing the director of football role and telling whoever is manager who the targets are and the managers are doing face to face recon for him (or at least moyes was).
The rebuild was always on and if you listen to Mark Ogden in the "off the pitch" podcast he alludes to everything I have mentioned.
If we have deals in-place, they will still happen in terms of money and wages the only difference is the personal opinions of the players on the manager, previously being moyes I can.imagine they would be even more interested if it was Ancelotti, Mourinho (boooo) or Van Gaal (especially Kroos, Fabregas or Reus).
We weren't going to sign Shaw anyway. It was quite obvious that he preferred Chelsea, and it was reported numerous times.
I'm not sure about the Calvalho dude, but I'm almost sure that we'll be able to attract better players now if we appoint a competent manager in the Summer.
I'm pretty sure we're going to sign Shaw and recent reports only point towards that.
The only way we were going to sign him is by offering (significantly) more money than Chelsea, which makes Moyes leaving a non-factor in the deal.
Agreed about the money. And about Moyes, I'd say he wasn't much of a factor anyway.