I'm not one to get on the lads back because we aren't going through the best spell. Hell i wasn't even alive when the bad old days of relegation, promotion, relegation, promotion, relegation. But it's clear to me and so many other Utd fans that Phil Neville just aint good enough to be playin for one of Europes premier sides. We've got injuries at mo, fair enough but he shouldn't be at the club anymore. His passing is attrocious (see maine road last weekend) he has little understanding of the game and runs with his head up his own backside. I can't fault his determination but at this level that AINT ENUF. What to you guys think? I reckon it's time to sell the lad and replace him with quality.
when is fergie gona realise that Phil Neville is a liability to United? Time to sell
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yeah and that veron guy sucks too...
"relegation, promotion, relegation, promotion, relegation" when was that then?
"relegation, promotion, relegation, promotion, relegation" when was that then?
sounds like something from another club in mancville!
sounds like something from another club in mancville!
Phil Neville encapsulates what has gone wrong at United recently. When the lad broke into the team as a youngster with his brother, it was promising. Both the Neville's performed better with far less individual mistakes in their earlier days. This was when they were eager to impress and establish themselves. Phil seems to have stagnated and even gone backwards in his standards (although of late he's done far better as a makeshift central midfielder than full back). After 99's Euro success it has become apparent that the standard of United's all round squad needed to be improved. This has not fully happened. As the standards of United's performances in Europe have improved with experience, so Phil Neville's have increasingly not met the benchmark required. He's not alone though, Barthez, G. Neville, Giggs, Silvestre and Beckham often let themselves down too as to the standard that is required.
Anyone who has been to OT this year will tell you PN is much improved. He is such an easy target.
So he is limited but he has done ok for us.
So why dont you all f*** off.
So he is limited but he has done ok for us.
So why dont you all f*** off.
Phil Neville is not good enough when everyone is fit. When we have an injury crisis, like now, he is an adequate defensive midfielder. He has had more good games than bad. He is also okay (just) when we are short of full backs.
There aren't many players willing to stay as third choice behind Roy Keane and Nicky Butt, third choice right back behind Gaz and Wes Brown, and cover for Silvestre. As experienced cover in a crisis, he is a decent player.
There aren't many players willing to stay as third choice behind Roy Keane and Nicky Butt, third choice right back behind Gaz and Wes Brown, and cover for Silvestre. As experienced cover in a crisis, he is a decent player.
Those of you bashing Phil make me sick. Its obvious you know nothing of the game. Is Phil good enough to start at fullback for United, no, I will agree to it. Is he a good reserve player, for United, yes. All reserve players cannot be as good as First team players otherwise they would be on the first team you wankers!!!! There are exceptions like Soljkaer when he was on the bench. But is Fortune as good as Gigs, no, is Chadwick as good as becks, no, is Forlan as good as Ruud, no. But I will say this Phil is better at full back than those I just mentioned are at the position they each play. So get of Phil's back and get behind the team.
Phil Neville again ... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> The guy is a total JOKE !
My points against P Neville
What is expected from him?
We all know that he gives his heart out but we also know that he lacks of talent and solidity. Playing with Manutd is a great responsibility even for a reserve because you may finish playing against the strongest teams ( REAL MADRID) There is an enormous chance that P Nev will dissapiont us in crunchy games, he did it before ( Romania and ManCity) and he will do it again.
Another point is his wage. P Neville is on a long -term contract with a 30 grand a week. He CANNOT be considered as a reserve and at 25 years he cannot improve much. The Fledgling had been worn long ago and it cannot be used as an excuse
The third point is that P Neville is indirectly closing the door to the new talent (local and foreigner) that would have made a name at OT. Players like Tierney and Stewart would have played and perhaps impressed if P Neville wasn’t
At OT, while by selling P Neville SAF would have been given the go ahead to sign Escude and Burdisso from last summer. This action would have strengthened the defense.
My last point is personal. I care for P Neville and I believe that he could have a better career with a team that plays at his level. Look at Greening and Savage, they didn’t stand a chance at OT but have grown into decent players with clubs that are at their same level. P Neville will never make it at OT and we all know that. By staying here he will only damage his international and club’s career and that is not what we want from a local lad.
What is expected from him?
We all know that he gives his heart out but we also know that he lacks of talent and solidity. Playing with Manutd is a great responsibility even for a reserve because you may finish playing against the strongest teams ( REAL MADRID) There is an enormous chance that P Nev will dissapiont us in crunchy games, he did it before ( Romania and ManCity) and he will do it again.
Another point is his wage. P Neville is on a long -term contract with a 30 grand a week. He CANNOT be considered as a reserve and at 25 years he cannot improve much. The Fledgling had been worn long ago and it cannot be used as an excuse
The third point is that P Neville is indirectly closing the door to the new talent (local and foreigner) that would have made a name at OT. Players like Tierney and Stewart would have played and perhaps impressed if P Neville wasn’t
At OT, while by selling P Neville SAF would have been given the go ahead to sign Escude and Burdisso from last summer. This action would have strengthened the defense.
My last point is personal. I care for P Neville and I believe that he could have a better career with a team that plays at his level. Look at Greening and Savage, they didn’t stand a chance at OT but have grown into decent players with clubs that are at their same level. P Neville will never make it at OT and we all know that. By staying here he will only damage his international and club’s career and that is not what we want from a local lad.
The problem with Phil Neville is that as long as we have him SAF will play him. Time to cut him loose
Let us see if May can find a good premiership side who will pay him as Manutd do my friend
And Btw we have already seen two youngsters ( three if you consider a 21 yr old frenchman called Silvestre) pipping the place from P Nev. Their names? John O Shea and W Brown. I guess that Tierney and Stewart would do a better job than a defender that cant tackle ( his words not Mine)
And with the money brought by him I AM SURE that the club would have increased their bid for Escude.
And Btw we have already seen two youngsters ( three if you consider a 21 yr old frenchman called Silvestre) pipping the place from P Nev. Their names? John O Shea and W Brown. I guess that Tierney and Stewart would do a better job than a defender that cant tackle ( his words not Mine)
And with the money brought by him I AM SURE that the club would have increased their bid for Escude.
Fergie i nuts keepin that liability there. Two of the 3 goals scored in the manc derby were his fault. The other was Gary's fault but Gary and Becks link so well and Gary's half decent <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
o yeh cos today at arsenal phil neville had a terrible game ! <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
Back to the top wanker.
Originally posted by Travis Bickle:
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but he simply isn't of the class that United need.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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The irony.
The irony.
Have said it before, but worth reiterating maybe.
Phil Neville - and Gary come to that - are United players. Whatever some people think they lack in talent, they make up for in heart. You can't buy what they offer.
Phil won't always have a good game - he'll doubtless have plenty more poorish ones. But if a player has shown that he can turn it on, even if it's not consistently, then that player deserves to at least be part of the squad.
Phil Neville - and Gary come to that - are United players. Whatever some people think they lack in talent, they make up for in heart. You can't buy what they offer.
Phil won't always have a good game - he'll doubtless have plenty more poorish ones. But if a player has shown that he can turn it on, even if it's not consistently, then that player deserves to at least be part of the squad.
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>Have said it before, but worth reiterating maybe.
Phil Neville - and Gary come to that - are United players. Whatever some people think they lack in talent, they make up for in heart. You can't buy what they offer.
Phil won't always have a good game - he'll doubtless have plenty more poorish ones. But if a player has shown that he can turn it on, even if it's not consistently, then that player deserves to at least be part of the squad.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Originally posted by londonredmaniac:
<strong>I'm not one to get on the lads back because we aren't going through the best spell. Hell i wasn't even alive when the bad old days of relegation, promotion, relegation, promotion, relegation. But it's clear to me and so many other Utd fans that Phil Neville just aint good enough to be playin for one of Europes premier sides. We've got injuries at mo, fair enough but he shouldn't be at the club anymore. His passing is attrocious (see maine road last weekend) he has little understanding of the game and runs with his head up his own backside. I can't fault his determination but at this level that AINT ENUF. What to you guys think? I reckon it's time to sell the lad and replace him with quality.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What Livvie said.
Sums it up.
Just as their respective performances the last 2 games shut the Neville bashers up. Eat your heart out idiots.
Sums it up.
Just as their respective performances the last 2 games shut the Neville bashers up. Eat your heart out idiots.
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It's utterly predictable that people come on here after one good game and use that to justify their point of view.
Just as it is to slag a player off after one or two poor games.
Just as it is to slag a player off after one or two poor games.
Come on here after a good game?
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I'm always here!
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I'm always here!
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Yes, I'm here far more than the cockney Travis Bickle!
I'd rather have Phil playing for us than these twats supporting us. If you don't like the players feck off. Phil was man of the match yesterday by a long way and has played well most of this season. Most of you dickheads wouldn't know a footballer if one fell out of your arse, glory seeking shitheads.
Originally posted by Travis Bickle:
<strong>It's utterly predictable that people come on here after one good game and use that to justify their point of view.
Just as it is to slag a player off after one or two poor games.</strong><hr></blockquote>
he's played well this season...
one bad match against City.. but he's made up for it now...
please feck off and support someone else.
like West Ham or Spurs.
have a nice day.