What's happened to Yugoslav football?

Originally posted by geordie1:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Racist against SS Lazio. I don't think that's possible.</strong><hr></blockquote>

geordie, believe me; there's too much evidence on that guy. I've been studying him since the Mihajlovic-Vieira brawl. He declared his racist view against gypsies. And continues provoking against SS Lazio, using all fake stuff, even after all the true facts that we Lazio fans here in RedCafe posted again and again. He's been spotted, now. Also, check out his words on Mihajlovic as a player: either he doesn't know what football is, or he is a racist.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
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The Balkan campagin was an internationally recoginized effort, supported by much of the civilized and educated world in an effort to prevent the genoocidal ethnic cleansing of a people.

The WTC were performed by fanatical terrorists intent on killing themselves and as many civilians as possible.

If you disagree with these two points then there's something seriously wrong with you.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Genocidal ethnic cleansing of a people ?
Aha fair enough.
Which people Raoul ?
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Originally posted by Piersifal:
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geordie, believe me; there's too much evidence on that guy. I've been studying him since the Mihajlovic-Vieira brawl. He declared his racist view against gypsies. And continues provoking against SS Lazio, using all fake stuff, even after all the true facts that we Lazio fans here in RedCafe posted again and again. He's been spotted, now. Also, check out his words on Mihajlovic as a player: either he doesn't know what football is, or he is a racist.
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Piersifal:

Are you denying that Mihajlovic used racist language against Patrick Vieira ?

I just dug up the report from last year.

Thursday October 19, 2000
The Guardian

Uefa launched an investigation last night into allegations that Patrick Vieira was racially abused by Lazio's Sinisa Mihajlovic throughout Arsenal's Champions League game in Rome.
Vieira has claimed the abuse heaped on him by the Yugoslavia defender was the worst he had heard.

The behaviour of Lazio fans, who taunted Arsenal's black players and hurled objects at the team at the end of Tuesday's 1-1 draw, will also be investigated.

"Mihajlovic called me a fecking black monkey and when you are a player you are not happy to hear that," said Vieira, who in the past might easily have lost his cool in the face of such provocation. "What is really surprising is it has come from a player who is a foreigner in Italy.

"It started in the first game at Highbury and I thought maybe it was just because we won the game that he was upset. When a fan does it it's stupid, when a player does it it's unbelievable. It is the worst abuse I have ever heard and it never stopped from the moment the teams were shaking hands at the start. I told him he'd said enough.

"You could see in his eyes that he was really thinking about what he said. It was very hurtful and difficult to accept when another pro player says things like that.

"When fans do it, you can do something about it; they can be identified. But when a player says it to you on the pitch it is difficult to prove. I feel I have to speak out about this and do something. You have to tell the truth."

Mihajlovic admitted last night he had made reference to Vieira's colour but denied the insults were racist and claimed Vieira had started the squabble by calling him a gypsy. "Yes, it's true I said 'black shit', but he provoked me by saying 'gypsy shit'," he said. "I called him black but I might just as well have called him French. If I'm a racist then at this point so is he for calling me a gypsy.

"I don't have anything against blacks. I didn't want to insult him because of the colour of his skin, just as I'm sure he didn't want to insult me by calling me gypsy."

Depending on what is included in the report filed by the German referee Helmut Krug, and possible evidence presented by other independent witnesses, Uefa may have trouble making charges stick against Mihajlovic.

But Lazio face a fine at the very least. Uefa recently fined Red Star Belgrade £16,000 after their fans hurled flares at Leicester supporters and shouted racist abuse.

"Uefa absolutely condemns all forms of racist abuse," said its director of communications Mike Lee. "When any allegation of this kind is made we take it extremely seriously."

Lazio are known for attracting an extreme right-wing fringe and their president Sergio Cragnotti has apologised for Tuesday's racist behaviour of a section of fans. But Lazio insisted the abuse was the work of "a few hundred imbeciles" and hit out at a "defamatory campaign" to brand the club and its supporters as racist.

Having received the reports of Krug and its match delegate, Uefa is also investigating the ill-tempered squabbles that marred the evening. They included Arsenal's Gilles Grimandi striking Diego Simeone, leaving the midfielder with a cut above his eye, and an after-match fight involving Grimandi, Mihajlovic and his Lazio team-mate Alessandro Nesta.

Grimandi, who said he pushed Simeone away after having his shirt tugged but did not punch him or try to hurt him, can expect a suspension.

Mihajlovic claimed the Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein was "involved in the uproar at the end", but that was denied by Dein.
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raoul, don't mix the words of a player with fans of Lazio. That's what Suedesi usually does.

If Miha said that, it's his problem, not Lazio's.
Vieira, too, called him gypsy.

Both were racist, in that occasion.

Both were to condamn.

But, as usual, worldwide press fu**ed up the whole thing, accusing FANS and the CLUB to be racist.

Nobody said anything about Vieira, who's not a perfect gentleman himself...
 
Originally posted by Beckham007:
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Nah the ones that were in the WTC on Sep 11.
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007, i used to think you were a harmless child but now im getting the impression that your a bit of a gobshite,
sick,
youd never here anyone in the West celebrating people being killed in war, they might celebrate winning a war but they/ we would at the same time spare a thought for the innocent victims
your only a young fella, keep this up your going to end up as an awful bitter and twisted auld bollox,
your not the first kunt in the world to have had his forefathers persecuted and forced to flee from there homeland,
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Originally posted by jester:
<strong>raoul, don't mix the words of a player with fans of Lazio. That's what Suedesi usually does.

If Miha said that, it's his problem, not Lazio's.
Vieira, too, called him gypsy.

Both were racist, in that occasion.

Both were to condamn.

But, as usual, worldwide press fu**ed up the whole thing, accusing FANS and the CLUB to be racist.

Nobody said anything about Vieira, who's not a perfect gentleman himself...</strong><hr></blockquote>


Note that I didn't condemn Lazio. I aimed my comments at Mihojlovic.
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Originally posted by Piersifal:
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geordie, believe me; there's too much evidence on that guy. I've been studying him since the Mihajlovic-Vieira brawl. He declared his racist view against gypsies. And continues provoking against SS Lazio, using all fake stuff, even after all the true facts that we Lazio fans here in RedCafe posted again and again. He's been spotted, now. Also, check out his words on Mihajlovic as a player: either he doesn't know what football is, or he is a racist.
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I agree that Sue (ha!) may have a bit of an unhealthy obsession with Lazio, but that hardly makes him a racist. You shouldn't throw that kind of term around. Lazio is not a "race".

I'm not sure about gypsies. I don't remember him saying anything bad about them. I'd like to hear his reply.

As for Mihajlovic ... again, disliking a player (especially one like that guy!) has nothing to do with racism. I'm sure Sue doesn't dislike him becuase of his ethnic background.
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Originally posted by geordie1:
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I agree that Sue (ha!) may have a bit of an unhealthy obsession with Lazio, but that hardly makes him a racist. You shouldn't throw that kind of term around. Lazio is not a "race".

As for Mihajlovic ... again, disliking a player (especially one like that guy!) has nothing to do with racism. I'm sure Sue doesn't dislike him becuase of his ethnic background.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Geordie,

Of course "Lazio" is not a race, but Piersifal may be too stupid to understand that.

I don't dislike Mihajlovic becasue he's Serb. I dislike him because he is a racist feck:

1) Close friendship with and support for Arkan, a war criminal wanted by the Hague in relation to his genocidal role in Bosnia.
2) His expressed hatred towards Bosnians and Kosovans (i.e. Bosnians need to convert or die; Kosovan should have a limit on number of kids???)
3) Incident with Vieira.

These qualities make him a racist.
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Read this: In true Red Star Belgrade fashion...
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We "raped their goats". Is that a common Serbian expression Beckham007?

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Originally posted by geordie1:
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I agree that Sue (ha!) may have a bit of an unhealthy obsession with Lazio, but that hardly makes him a racist. You shouldn't throw that kind of term around. Lazio is not a "race".


I'm not sure about gypsies. I don't remember him saying anything bad about them. I'd like to hear his reply.


As for Mihajlovic ... again, disliking a player (especially one like that guy!) has nothing to do with racism. I'm sure Sue doesn't dislike him becuase of his ethnic background.</strong><hr></blockquote>


geordie, it is really too easy to spot the difference: Vieira and Mihajlovic verbally abuse each othern but HOW STRANGE, only Vieira is the one abused and trustworthy. And from that point on, Mihajlovic becomes a racist. End of story.
Well, this thought can only form inside a 12 year old boy, or inside a biased and "racist" mind itself. And when that gentleman called suedesi addressed all gipsies and laziali "that way", I immediately found out that it was not the case of a young, naive boy, but the mind of a provoker. I tried to explain it to him, but then I gave it up: he's not even worth a reply. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
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mihajlovic is a) a racist b) a cnut c) a pish poor football player

it´s beyond belief how anyone can defend a well known asshole like mihajlovic
 
Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>mihajlovic is a) a racist b) a cnut c) a pish poor football player


it´s beyond belief how anyone can defend a well known asshole like mihajlovic</strong><hr></blockquote>

When was the last time you went to dinner with Sinisa, Jens? Or you really believe all that crap tabloids in England sell you?
Or maybe it's just good marijuana you are smoking...pass it on, it's my turn!
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One of the worst insults you can say to a Serb is that he is a gypsy. Now Viera said this and Mihajlovic retaliated by saying black shit, which any person who has been attacked would say.

Just because you call someone a black shit, doesnt necessarly mean your a racist. Why has Mihaj been made the scapegoat in this situation ?

So its fair to call someone a gypsy, but unfair to call them a black shit?

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In re: to that article about Delije being fined cos of flares been thrown at the Leicester fans.
Why didnt they say what the Leicester fans did to spark the Delije.

Ill tell you what they did.

Both sets of fans were singing and so forth, nothing bad was happening at all. (Take into great consideration that the Leicester scum made the game be played at a neautral venue).
Anyway....all of a sudden, the Leicester fans started making signals like flying planes.
Then the song started.....

"Belgrade is going down going down going down, Belgrade is going down going down" , whilst continuing to make the plane signals.

But, heaven forbid the press will report that. fecken scum.

Should have fecken killed every single one of those mother feckers. Not just throw flares !
 
Originally posted by Suedesi:
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Geordie,

Of course "Lazio" is not a race, but Piersifal may be too stupid to understand that.

I don't dislike Mihajlovic becasue he's Serb. I dislike him because he is a racist feck:

1) Close friendship with and support for Arkan, a war criminal wanted by the Hague in relation to his genocidal role in Bosnia.
2) His expressed hatred towards Bosnians and Kosovans (i.e. Bosnians need to convert or die; Kosovan should have a limit on number of kids???)
3) Incident with Vieira.

These qualities make him a racist.</strong><hr></blockquote>

a/ Bosnians should all fecken die.
b/ Albanians should all die.

Nuff fecken said.

And feck you all who hate Serbs.
This bullshit has gone long enough.
Sick to fecken death of you cnuts.
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KOSOVO IS SERBIA !

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Originally posted by Piersifal:
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When was the last time you went to dinner with Sinisa, Jens? Or you really believe all that crap tabloids in England sell you?
Or maybe it's just good marijuana you are smoking...pass it on, it's my turn!
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defending the racist cnut mihajlovic .. his behavior on the pitch makes me sick and disgraceful
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Originally posted by Beckham007:
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My ex was an american.
She gave great head.
Nuff said.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Originally posted by Beckham007:
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Theres only 1 type of American I like....</strong><hr></blockquote>

Blind ones, by the sound of it <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Wanker.
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Originally posted by Beckham007:
<strong>One of the worst insults you can say to a Serb is that he is a gypsy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hi gypsy!


<strong>Now Viera said this and Mihajlovic retaliated by saying black shit, which any person who has been attacked would say.</strong><hr></blockquote>

In your small world, probably yes.


<strong>Just because you call someone a black shit, doesnt necessarly mean your a racist.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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god, thats a candidate for quote of the year

<strong>(Take into great consideration that the Leicester scum made the game be played at a neautral venue).</strong><hr></blockquote>

So you blame Leicester cos they didn´t want to play in a warzone?


<strong>Anyway....all of a sudden, the Leicester fans started making signals like flying planes.
Then the song started.....

"Belgrade is going down going down going down, Belgrade is going down going down" , whilst continuing to make the plane signals.

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so should united fans start throwing bricks at the visiting fans when they do the munich song?
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Originally posted by Jens:
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defending the racist cnut mihajlovic .. his behavior on the pitch makes me sick and disgraceful</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd skip your pusher, if I were you, Jens.
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Originally posted by Piersifal:
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I'd skip your pusher, if I were you, Jens.
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so basically you think sinisa mihajlovic is a very nice person, there´s nowt wrong with his general behaviour and you cant understand why half the football world hates him to bits?
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Originally posted by Beckham007:
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feck off mole.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Mole?? :confused: <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Why do people with closed minds always open their mouths? ;)
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Originally posted by Jens:
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so basically you think sinisa mihajlovic is a very nice person, there´s nowt wrong with his general behaviour and you cant understand why half the football world hates him to bits?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ok, since you just don't get it, let me say it straight: Sinisa is known here to be a very intelligent and clever guy, witty and straightforward. His behaviour on the pitch is way better of, say, Cantona or Vieira or Fowler.
Half of the world what? You mean half of the shite you read on the Sun? I see the suedesi virus is spreading at full speed, uh?
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interesting ... when red star played v leverkusen, they threw about 20 flares after innocent persons who were unfortunate to sit just beside the red star supporters ...

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pretty lame for a derby, dont u think so 007?

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this one´s nice ...

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see what i mean about the flares?

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fecken German cnut.
Should have wacked more of them.
 
Originally posted by Beckham007:
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a/ Bosnians should all fecken die.
b/ Albanians should all die.

Nuff fecken said.

And feck you all who hate Serbs.
This bullshit has gone long enough.
Sick to fecken death of you cnuts.</strong><hr></blockquote>


I rest my case. I also take back that Mihajlovic is absolutely a racist cnut. He might be simply brainwashed like beckham007.
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Originally posted by Beckham007:
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fecken German cnut.
Should have wacked more of them.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Does calling someone a "fecken German cnut" qualify as racism? Or does it fall into the same bracket as "black shit"?

If anyone is racist here or displaying signs of it, it's you matey.
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