Has to be 100 million plus. In my opinion he gets into every team in Europe's starting XI.
What would be an acceptable offer for Pogba?
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He’s a game changer, so I’d want to be able to sign a game changer in exchange... Sancho for instance. Truthfully I’m a little concerned that it would cost us more to buy Ndidi than we’ll get for Pogba.
80-90m lowest but obviously try for as much as you can. I don't think 150m is realistic but can understand people who see the Hazard fee, Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann, Felix etc. Each situation and timing is different and if Paul was playing like Bale at Spurs, Ronaldo at United or Coutinho at Liverpool and a club board really thought highly of this player then they would big bid and get him before anyone else, the desire is not that strong for Pogba and 90m might be too much but just don't think United can accept 50/60/70m currently.
I've always felt 90-120m before the antics, I've not been whittled down to get rid.. Juve might want to make another statement signing, I can see them putting up 80-90m before Madrid and Paul might have to go back just to get out of his United hell instead of only Madrid. Hopefully something happens and Madrid get prompted to bid and United accept ~90 or whatever depending on who comes in and his Euro performance.
Paul's brothers and Raiola, stop talking about Ole and United for him, you signed a 5+1, get these Spanish cnuts to come with a decent bid for christ sake.
I've always felt 90-120m before the antics, I've not been whittled down to get rid.. Juve might want to make another statement signing, I can see them putting up 80-90m before Madrid and Paul might have to go back just to get out of his United hell instead of only Madrid. Hopefully something happens and Madrid get prompted to bid and United accept ~90 or whatever depending on who comes in and his Euro performance.
Paul's brothers and Raiola, stop talking about Ole and United for him, you signed a 5+1, get these Spanish cnuts to come with a decent bid for christ sake.
Any offer which can make us enough dough to buy Grealish and Ndidi / Partey.
60m plus Casemiro. Any takers?
This. Pretty much in full agreement, and it covers pretty much every scenario.
I did say pre antics 110-140m. WC winner, merchandise money train, flamboyance, proper galactico signing, years of usage.
Instead we've had as value depreciating a run of events as could possibly be: Injury/"Injury", agent bs, Jose/Pogba captain affair, Paul's Martial esq turn up when he fancies performances, media connecting Paul to everything wrong with Utd....and more besides.
So now if he doesn't have an above average Euros, then as has been said, I don't know who will stump up a decent sum other than Juve, or maybe PSG. But surely PSG doesn't match Paul's ambition.
If Ed continues with this new found tenacity/standing ground in the transfer market, then perhaps he'll eke out a good cash+player deal from a suitor; that is if any of those suitor's players actually meet our seemingly new unwavering criteria of desire to be here/mentality+behaviour/mercenary for cash or pride to play. I.e., not another 30pence plus James joke.
With this said, and all the noises coming out of Spain, I don't think either Real or Barce would get near the money needed. Juve is surely a step back (but possible it seems). Pep, Paul & Ronny at Juve?
Overall we have to decide between being bent over a barrel deal wise (our perception in the market), versus keeping a virus (albeit a man/media perpetuated one as oppose to Paul himself). It's time to let him and that agent go. Let's just ask ourselves how quickly Sir Alex would have jettisoned this pair (and obviously he wouldn't have even brought him back in the first place).
Question for people; what about Bayern? Do we think they could be at all interested/have the money/have any expendable players? That's as big as it gets outside of Barce/Real.
He got 2 years left in his contract. Anything less than 100m pounds is rejected no brainer. Should be around 120m pounds to 140m pounds without add on.
Arsenal set Sanchez price for about 75m pounds when he had a year left in his contract. Pogba is still in his prime age and it makes sense if we almost double that 75m for Pogba who has 2 years left in his contract.
Won't surprised me if Pogba actually wants to stay, all of these scene from him & his agent are just to get massive wages.
Arsenal set Sanchez price for about 75m pounds when he had a year left in his contract. Pogba is still in his prime age and it makes sense if we almost double that 75m for Pogba who has 2 years left in his contract.
Won't surprised me if Pogba actually wants to stay, all of these scene from him & his agent are just to get massive wages.
It’s a fantasy thinking we’re going to cash in on Pogba. If we get out what we put in, I’d consider that a good deal. Pogba wants out, let him go. It would be great to somehow give Raiola his comeuppance, but I think we need to just take emotion out of it.
Honestly I’d just make him see out his contract. The thing to remember is Raiola gets a huge cut out of any transfer fee. Let’s say we negotiate 90 Million from Juventus. We really take 70 million from the deal due to Raiola’s cut like he did to Juventus when we bought him. I’d rather no money go to that piece of trash. I know it’s a lot of money to lose out on, but Ed’s been shooting his mouth off about our financial muscle every transfer window so it really shouldn’t hurt us or our plans.
I'll be inclined to believe in Pogba if he actually starts to show some consistency.
It says a lot about him that he's not won the player of the year for us despite the team being so shit. Him underperforming is one of the major reasons why we're shit. He's part of the problem and yet you have his agent talking on behalf of him like he's a saint who's been forced to play with a bunch of donkeys.
Pogba's a fantastic player for 20 games a year max, utter shit of an attitude with a worse agent. Signing him and allowing the circus around him back into the club was one of the worst thing Ed has done.
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The writing is on the wall now. He was supposed to have been fit and playing again weeks ago. The issue we have is with him basically not playing for a full season it must impact the fee we can command, but on the flip side his lack of minutes must affect his chances of playing for France at the Euros, at least as a starter.
He doesn't fit in at Barca I don't think, and after the Griezmann deal and their expected pursuit of Neymar to keep Messi happy they can't afford the fee plus wages. I think its a straight 'fight*' between Madrid and Juve - Zidane may force the board to buy him as a long time admirer of Paul's, and Juve seem to want him back in Turin if we listen to Mino's latest comments.
His value is minimum the 90m we paid, up to about 120m. I doubt either club comes in offering cash only, even if it is a multi-year structured payment. We need to look at which players of theirs we could take as a part of the deal, and if we have any sense start working on them now via their agents.
Ole will take pelters for it, but he and the club must continue with the stance that Paul isn't for sale. As soon as we say he is for sale then his value drops and we weaken our negotiating position by admitting he wants out. What we say and what we mean are often two separate things altogether.
I do wonder what is really happening right now. Has Paul said he isn't coming back to play for us, or has Ole told him he is not under consideration? There have been rumors that suggested both scenarios, so it would be very interesting to know what the real situation is.
*By 'fight' I mean they are the only 2 clubs I can envisage coming in for him, so it's one or the other and likely their only chance to sign him.
He doesn't fit in at Barca I don't think, and after the Griezmann deal and their expected pursuit of Neymar to keep Messi happy they can't afford the fee plus wages. I think its a straight 'fight*' between Madrid and Juve - Zidane may force the board to buy him as a long time admirer of Paul's, and Juve seem to want him back in Turin if we listen to Mino's latest comments.
His value is minimum the 90m we paid, up to about 120m. I doubt either club comes in offering cash only, even if it is a multi-year structured payment. We need to look at which players of theirs we could take as a part of the deal, and if we have any sense start working on them now via their agents.
Ole will take pelters for it, but he and the club must continue with the stance that Paul isn't for sale. As soon as we say he is for sale then his value drops and we weaken our negotiating position by admitting he wants out. What we say and what we mean are often two separate things altogether.
I do wonder what is really happening right now. Has Paul said he isn't coming back to play for us, or has Ole told him he is not under consideration? There have been rumors that suggested both scenarios, so it would be very interesting to know what the real situation is.
*By 'fight' I mean they are the only 2 clubs I can envisage coming in for him, so it's one or the other and likely their only chance to sign him.
Think this is the most realistic. Some money + a RW or a CB would do nicely
100+ for sure. Anything less and i'd rather just keep him for commercial value alone. Don't want any player swaps as that could mean we end up with a player that just signs but doesn't want to be at the club too much and is less good then Pogba. If you're going to have a player that doesn't really want to be here at least it should be a World Class one. Still think there's a chance he stays if we make the CL mind you.
Enough to get sancho
you guys don’t realise though with PP and haaland up front and sancho and we are a scary team
we’d 100% win stuff. A midfielder if we keep PP then we have a very strong squad with killer youth pushing on. We are on to an absolute winner if we keep pog and make 2/3 signings.
sick of the circus though. Pogba has been a dose since he got here. Class player in a bad team but always itching to leave or get the biggest contract the club has ever seen without really getting into top gear.
you guys don’t realise though with PP and haaland up front and sancho and we are a scary team
we’d 100% win stuff. A midfielder if we keep PP then we have a very strong squad with killer youth pushing on. We are on to an absolute winner if we keep pog and make 2/3 signings.
sick of the circus though. Pogba has been a dose since he got here. Class player in a bad team but always itching to leave or get the biggest contract the club has ever seen without really getting into top gear.
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He needs to prove his fitness before the season ends. A few decent games and then I’d take £120mil.
I will take 30m plus Casemiro, for someone USEFUL.
Minimum is obviously making our money back on him. He's done nothing for us to increase his value, but maybe now as a World Cup winner he is worth more.
I can't see who would be crazy enough to pay up for him....Madrid would have been in the past, but I think things may have changed that way.
I can't see who would be crazy enough to pay up for him....Madrid would have been in the past, but I think things may have changed that way.
If he can put on some good performances for the rest of the season, then its a win-win for both. We can quote a good sum and he'll get his move out.
We wouldn't be making our money back though would we even recouping the 90 million? How much has gone to him in wages the last few years with very little to show for that investment. He's played what, a handful of games this season? We'll have to take what we can get I think.
120 million, would accept 100. Both parties can move on then, shame as he’s a great player on his day but those days are few & far between. Also too many injuries so let’s start again with someone who wants to be here
I see your point but lets not act like £70m is nothing money. In the real world that's an insane amount of money. In footballing terms it still 1 or 1 and half decent players.
I think we'll accept anything £80m plus, but it depends on how its dispersed. If not then Pogba will stay and quickly realize these clubs he wants to go to don't actually want him that much.
The Freds of this world go for 50m+
The Madisons probably 80m +
The £70m tag isn't giving you much these days unfortunately. Would be pushing it for 1 quality starter in PL (I doubt Leicester is selling anywhere close that mark). Yah sure you can find a serviceable player but you need more than that if this team is ever coming back.
140m
The offer for Pogba doesn't really matter. All that matters is the business we do the year he goes.
If he is gone this summer we need to be looking at a 10/10 window in terms of incomings.
To make it acceptable we would need to pull something like Grealish Sancho and Partey off.
Hopefully a back up striker too if you being greedy.
If we sell Pogba for 100+ million and end up with a net spend around the same price then it will have been completely pointless.
If he is gone this summer we need to be looking at a 10/10 window in terms of incomings.
To make it acceptable we would need to pull something like Grealish Sancho and Partey off.
Hopefully a back up striker too if you being greedy.
If we sell Pogba for 100+ million and end up with a net spend around the same price then it will have been completely pointless.
120-140 million.
Play hard ball, dont cave in to pressure caused by Raiola's war with the club.
Use the money to buy Sancho and money towards Maddison,
Then invest in Grealish and a centre forward whilst shipping out Lingard, Rojo, Sanchez.
Play hard ball, dont cave in to pressure caused by Raiola's war with the club.
Use the money to buy Sancho and money towards Maddison,
Then invest in Grealish and a centre forward whilst shipping out Lingard, Rojo, Sanchez.
If Sancho doesn't materialise, does anyone rate Bernadeschi? £80m for Pogba + Bernadeschi from Juve? Not basing this on a lot but ever since he destroyed Athletico in the 1/4's of the CL last season I've been a bit of a fan boy..
I rated the Bernadeschi at Fiorentina. The one at Juventus is, frankly, shit
He has completely failed to replicate his early career form and will likely be shown the door in the summer. He's having a season worse than Dan James, but at 26 years and after 3 seasons there. He has only 9 goals in 99 games in all comps averaging 3 goals a season, which for a a guy that has played as a forward (left, right, CF, SS... all of it) for Italy's best team by far, it is pretty damning.
Oh jheez, that is damning! Never mind
It is a joke from Juventus to offer 50M+ 30 year old Ramsey who is an injury prone.
I like to include Dybala but it seems he is not interested and settled well at Juve this season. Not sure if we can include any other players like Rabiot.
We need to make sure at least we get 100M on Pogba in current market. Hopefully PSG comes in for him with a massive cash bid.
Juve - 80M + Rabiot or min 100M
PSG - 120-140M
Real - 60M+Asensio OR Jovic
If no one is interested for that kind of money then we might have to sell him for around 40M next year.
It's a tricky situation. I bloody hate to have these kind of situations.
You guys like to keep a sulking Pogba for another year at club if no one is ready to pay that much money in this summer?
I like to include Dybala but it seems he is not interested and settled well at Juve this season. Not sure if we can include any other players like Rabiot.
We need to make sure at least we get 100M on Pogba in current market. Hopefully PSG comes in for him with a massive cash bid.
Juve - 80M + Rabiot or min 100M
PSG - 120-140M
Real - 60M+Asensio OR Jovic
If no one is interested for that kind of money then we might have to sell him for around 40M next year.
It's a tricky situation. I bloody hate to have these kind of situations.
You guys like to keep a sulking Pogba for another year at club if no one is ready to pay that much money in this summer?
Direct swap for Cristiano.
If I was Pogba I would run my contract down. i think it expires when he is 28 and would make him an awful lot of money.l
Juventus and Madrid are the only two clubs who will be interested in him.
We should value Pogba between 110m and 140m.
Juventus can not afford this money and there is no player in that Juventus squad whom I would like to have in our team.
Madrid is the only option. They will start the negotiation from 70m and we should be as stubborn as we were with them during DeGea saga and make them pay around 120m mark.
We should value Pogba between 110m and 140m.
Juventus can not afford this money and there is no player in that Juventus squad whom I would like to have in our team.
Madrid is the only option. They will start the negotiation from 70m and we should be as stubborn as we were with them during DeGea saga and make them pay around 120m mark.
Anything less than what we paid should be straight up rejected and we should let him see out his contract just to spite Raiola.
Enough to at least pay 80% of Sancho.
Direct swaps are really rare. Let's back what we spent plus one and call it a day.
Like many have written, the important thing is what we do with the money. Bruno Fernandes looks like he's gonna be quality for us. Let's target more players like him.
Like many have written, the important thing is what we do with the money. Bruno Fernandes looks like he's gonna be quality for us. Let's target more players like him.
Its a good thing you aren't. He will be 29, and will not have played much. He wants to win trophies.
We might have competition
I could see De Bruyne on the market this Summer as well
I'd like a straight cash deal as it can be difficult to get players who really want to be part of the United project.
Juve who would like to bring Pogba back for a little cash plus Ramsey/Rabiot who they took on frees the cheeky shits
who can buy Pogba? Probably only Madrid, Barca, PSG and Juventus- it's going to be a buyer's market I think
Madrid is the most likely destination given Modric/Kroos age and Zidane's influence
wonder how Odegaard plus 70/80 would go down? would Odegaard be up for move? Would he improve us for those who've watched him - Madrid do have a lot of highly rated youngsters
I could see De Bruyne on the market this Summer as well
I'd like a straight cash deal as it can be difficult to get players who really want to be part of the United project.
Juve who would like to bring Pogba back for a little cash plus Ramsey/Rabiot who they took on frees the cheeky shits
who can buy Pogba? Probably only Madrid, Barca, PSG and Juventus- it's going to be a buyer's market I think
Madrid is the most likely destination given Modric/Kroos age and Zidane's influence
wonder how Odegaard plus 70/80 would go down? would Odegaard be up for move? Would he improve us for those who've watched him - Madrid do have a lot of highly rated youngsters
Most acceptable offer for Pogba is we give them Jesse for free.
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Madrid can give us the most. Don't count at Barcelona btw. They have been throwing money around foolishly for a few years and Messi has recently been throwing his toys out of the pram. Pogba would be a horrible fit for them, but they are a team that hasn't paid attention to fit for a few years now.
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