What should we do for the right wing if we don't get Sancho in the upcoming window?

How about signing back Ronnie for one year: to counter the Messi Mania?
 
If we can’t sign Sancho this summer I would be keen to get someone in on loan.

As much as I would be vehemently opposed to signing any of them permanently I would make a go for Gareth Bale/Ousmane Dembele/Antoine Greizmann as a short term fix only
 
Paul778 said:
That is ludicrous. Has his stock really fallen that low?
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They can't really ask for much considering the circumstances. He'll be 32 in 5 months and they're trying to move him on as he doesn't fit Conte's formation.
 
Paul778 said:
That is ludicrous. Has his stock really fallen that low?
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The report I saw today was Bayern were offer 12 but Inter want 15. I couldn’t help but laugh given how much Inter wanted from us less than 2 years ago.
 
Lentwood said:
If we can’t sign Sancho this summer I would be keen to get someone in on loan.

As much as I would be vehemently opposed to signing any of them permanently I would make a go for Gareth Bale/Ousmane Dembele/Antoine Greizmann as a short term fix only
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Yeah I feel exactly the same about a loan for those players you have mentioned
 
Perhaps Ole is thinking that we won't get Sancho this summer (108m is really too much in this climate of uncertainty), wait till we can get him rather than compromise (hopefully when the financial situation is better post-covid in January / next summer), and play with 2 up top in most games with a diamond in midfield with Fred/Matic holding, Pogba/VdB box-to-box and Fernandes at the apex. I know folks say our fullbacks are not geared for that, but I think Shaw is good in attack while AWB's game can be developed - we started seeing his improved attacking abilities in the second half of the season with more crosses in and assists although it tapered off at the end when he was clearly knackered after 60 games in only his second season in the top flight. Add Reguilon to challenge / cover for Shaw while Williams can back AWB up on the right - as a right-footer he can go out wide and cross in.

The two up top would be Martial and Rashford, with Greenwood and Ighalo covering. I'd rather this than Martial, Rashford and Greenwood played every game and getting exhausted.

If we get Thiago as well, and we keep our current midfield, I would be more convinced this could be the case. Of course, Ole will always have the option to play 4-2-3-1 in some games with Greenwood on the right.
 
Traore. He would not get in the way of Mason's development.

Good stop gap for Sancho.

Or Dembele or Bale on loan. We need something on the right this season and it's too big a burden for Mason.
 
RedDevilCanuck said:
Traore. He would not get in the way of Mason's development.

Good stop gap for Sancho.

Or Dembele or Bale on loan. We need something on the right this season and it's too big a burden for Mason.
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Yeah a loan deal is the way to go if we are unable to sort out a deal for Sancho
 
RedDevilCanuck said:
Traore. He would not get in the way of Mason's development.

Good stop gap for Sancho.

Or Dembele or Bale on loan. We need something on the right this season and it's too big a burden for Mason.
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Would love to know who the club see as backup options.

Traore would probably cost 50-60+, not sure if he is worth it. I always thought Sancho this window then going big on a Matic replacement or CB next summer. With Sancho looking unlikely I agree a loan would be wise or a young less heralded RW that could split time with Mason. Regardless we need someone else, even if Mason is the starter Mata, Pereira and Lingard have shown they aren't the quality we need on the right to back him up or allow him to get more time centrally. I think Sarr could be worth a shot.
 
Josep Dowling said:
The report I saw today was Bayern were offer 12 but Inter want 15. I couldn’t help but laugh given how much Inter wanted from us less than 2 years ago.
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Crazy! They wanted 50m and we wouldn't go above 45m, it fell through on a 5m difference. He is a very good player still, but he is on the way down, definitely a good squad player for us.
 
reddevilz007 said:
So lets get Perisic. He can bring a lot for us
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That'd be a very sensible signing. However imo we are still in the chase for Sancho and only until it's clear that the deal is off we won't sign any replacement.
 
Who do people think would be the best alternative RW signing to Sancho?
 
Is everyone still against Zaha. I totally dismissed it but started thinking it might be a clever buy. If he Palace wanted 70 last year I reckon they will take 60 post covid. If we have a 25 percent clause we could get him for 45. Prem proven, can play across the front 3, suits our style of play and will get at least 10 goals, 5 assists I reckon. He would be miles better than bringing in James if Rashford is injured and can rotate with Greenwood on the right. Heck I think he has even played up front hasnt he? Gives us loads of options. Plus he wants out badly and I cant see any other team that would be in for him.. Arsenal bought Pepe and I don't think Spurs or Everton have the cash. It would be like Cities Mahrez signing and that turned out well for them.
 
I get this strange feeling, totally unsubstantiated I suppose , that our spending is done.

We will flop about with Sancho, Upamecano rumours will fly...there will be random flirting with Thiago etc.

It would be a shame if so, this really is the time to strengthen...and with intent.

Hopefully not.
 
UpWithRivers said:
Is everyone still against Zaha. I totally dismissed it but started thinking it might be a clever buy. If he Palace wanted 70 last year I reckon they will take 60 post covid. If we have a 25 percent clause we could get him for 45. Prem proven, can play across the front 3, suits our style of play and will get at least 10 goals, 5 assists I reckon. He would be miles better than bringing in James if Rashford is injured and can rotate with Greenwood on the right. Heck I think he has even played up front hasnt he? Gives us loads of options. Plus he wants out badly and I cant see any other team that would be in for him.. Arsenal bought Pepe and I don't think Spurs or Everton have the cash. It would be like Cities Mahrez signing and that turned out well for them.
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The 25 percent clause is not worth much unless there are other bidders...
 
UpWithRivers said:
Is everyone still against Zaha. I totally dismissed it but started thinking it might be a clever buy. If he Palace wanted 70 last year I reckon they will take 60 post covid. If we have a 25 percent clause we could get him for 45. Prem proven, can play across the front 3, suits our style of play and will get at least 10 goals, 5 assists I reckon. He would be miles better than bringing in James if Rashford is injured and can rotate with Greenwood on the right. Heck I think he has even played up front hasnt he? Gives us loads of options. Plus he wants out badly and I cant see any other team that would be in for him.. Arsenal bought Pepe and I don't think Spurs or Everton have the cash. It would be like Cities Mahrez signing and that turned out well for them.
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'At least 10 goals' is a bold call considering he scored 10 exactly once in his career and that was when being the main man at his club, not a rotation option.

Expensive, won't improve further, not that good - exactly the sort of signing we have to avoid.
 
UpWithRivers said:
Is everyone still against Zaha. I totally dismissed it but started thinking it might be a clever buy. If he Palace wanted 70 last year I reckon they will take 60 post covid. If we have a 25 percent clause we could get him for 45. Prem proven, can play across the front 3, suits our style of play and will get at least 10 goals, 5 assists I reckon. He would be miles better than bringing in James if Rashford is injured and can rotate with Greenwood on the right. Heck I think he has even played up front hasnt he? Gives us loads of options. Plus he wants out badly and I cant see any other team that would be in for him.. Arsenal bought Pepe and I don't think Spurs or Everton have the cash. It would be like Cities Mahrez signing and that turned out well for them.
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I agree. My only thought is maybe we want a more traditional winger to provide width. Isn't Zaha more of the same? Someone that drifts inside? Having said that the attack would create havoc, if not miss quite a lot of opportunities.
 
Rocksy said:
The 25 percent clause is not worth much unless there are other bidders...
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Why? Surely it applies to us as well so no other bidders are needed. If they sell for 60 we get a 15mil reduction. If they sell for 40, we only get 10mill reduction but he is still cheaper.
 
Siorac said:
'At least 10 goals' is a bold call considering he scored 10 exactly once in his career and that was when being the main man at his club, not a rotation option.

Expensive, won't improve further, not that good - exactly the sort of signing we have to avoid.
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At least 10 goals' is a bold call - Yes but he would be playing with Fernandes, Pogba, Martial, Rashord and Greenwood and not Benteke
Expensive - I would say cheap. Traore would be what 75/80?, Sarr at Watford has been quoted at 50, Yeah they are younger but there are pros to Zaha as well ie Zaha has already the experience etc
 
Dembele would cost 15-20m to loan and seems to only be available on a guaranteed to buy deal. He would cost us 80m+
 
UpWithRivers said:
At least 10 goals' is a bold call - Yes but he would be playing with Fernandes, Pogba, Martial, Rashord and Greenwood and not Benteke
Expensive - I would say cheap. Traore would be what 75/80?, Sarr at Watford has been quoted at 50, Yeah they are younger but there are pros to Zaha as well ie Zaha has already the experience etc
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Look, 50-60m is half a Sancho. That's not cheap. I'd rather not waste that money on a mediocre squad player, especially in this current climate. I'd rather save that money for next summer to pay what Dortmund want. Paying a lot for mediocre players "just to get someone in" is part of why we're in the mess we're in. The likes of Zaha and Traore will not bridge the gap to the top teams and as such, they're way too expensive.
 
Siorac said:
Look, 50-60m is half a Sancho. That's not cheap. I'd rather not waste that money on a mediocre squad player, especially in this current climate. I'd rather save that money for next summer to pay what Dortmund want. Paying a lot for mediocre players "just to get someone in" is part of why we're in the mess we're in. The likes of Zaha and Traore will not bridge the gap to the top teams and as such, they're way too expensive.
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This. Any alternative to Sancho would cost 50-60m and would really not be worth it. If we cannot see the value of Sancho at £108m then the same principles should apply to Zaha at £60m. I would rather secure other areas of the pitch than spend money on Zaha.

Spending £50-60m on a winger this summer means again next summer we will be short of funds with other areas of the pitch needing to be addressed. If we cannot get Sancho lets just try and get a loan winger and get a CB and LB so next summer we can spend on Sancho
 
If we are really in for Thiago and Dayot then as much as I hate to say it, if we don’t get Sancho then don’t waste the money on a cut price version.
Either get someone in on loan or an absolute bargain.

or alternatively, get Sancho.
 
welshwingwizard said:
Why? Surely it applies to us as well so no other bidders are needed. If they sell for 60 we get a 15mil reduction. If they sell for 40, we only get 10mill reduction but he is still cheaper.
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Think about it. If Palace don't want to sell for the discounted price, (because they've decided internally that it's not enough) they can just raise the fee to 80 and say we'll give you a "discount".
 
Siorac said:
Look, 50-60m is half a Sancho. That's not cheap. I'd rather not waste that money on a mediocre squad player, especially in this current climate. I'd rather save that money for next summer to pay what Dortmund want. Paying a lot for mediocre players "just to get someone in" is part of why we're in the mess we're in. The likes of Zaha and Traore will not bridge the gap to the top teams and as such, they're way too expensive.
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romufc said:
This. Any alternative to Sancho would cost 50-60m and would really not be worth it. If we cannot see the value of Sancho at £108m then the same principles should apply to Zaha at £60m. I would rather secure other areas of the pitch than spend money on Zaha.

Spending £50-60m on a winger this summer means again next summer we will be short of funds with other areas of the pitch needing to be addressed. If we cannot get Sancho lets just try and get a loan winger and get a CB and LB so next summer we can spend on Sancho
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Its not 50-60 because we have a 25% clause. That makes it 45ish. I agree on getting Sancho but this thread says whats the option if we dont. If Dortmund or his agent or whoever are asking beyond reasonable fees then we should have a plan B. There is fairly good reasoning to getting a few cheaper players. Upamecano 50m + Zaha 45 + Thiago 25m is only around 12 mill more than Sancho.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood is already quite devastating. Rashford - Martial - Zaha or Zaha - Martial - Greenwood would also be a very good front 3. The pace and direct running from all 3 would be devastating. Fernandes will get about a million pens. :-) Much better than James - Martial - Greenwood or Rashford - Martial - James/Mata

I am banking in the fact that he will go for 60 mill and we get a 25percent discount though. I would think differently paying 60/70 mill. But if its possible to get him for 45 I think thats a bargain and I cant see who would be better at that price except a loan but the likes of Bale and Dembele with thier wages arnt exactly cheap and come with their own baggage
 
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jackal&hyde said:
Yep. With an option to buy for a half reasonable fee could be great. Amazing talent and still very young.
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Not happening, Barca can't afford to lose too much, most loans attract a fee of 10-20m, and the unofficial feedback is that Barca would only consider a loan with a requirement to buy at the end. Barca will want at least 70-80m for Dembele.
 
UpWithRivers said:
Its not 50-60 because we have a 25% clause. That makes it 45ish. I agree on getting Sancho but this thread says whats the option if we dont. If Dortmund or his agent or whoever are asking beyond reasonable fees then we should have a plan B. There is fairly good reasoning to getting a few cheaper players. Upamecano 50m + Zaha 45 + Thiago 25m is only around 12 mill more than Sancho.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood is already quite devastating. Rashford - Martial - Zaha or Zaha - Martial - Greenwood would also be a very good front 3. Much better than James - Martial - Greenwood or Rashford - Martial - James/Mata
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How many games has Zaha played on the right in the last 3 seasons? We need a RW, not a LW/CF who can also play RW.

We are not getting Thiago.. why do people think we have a chance to get him ?

The thread doesnt necessarily say what player should we get, just what we can do, which is fix other problems and get a loan player for this summer is what I would do.
 
Need a good loan deal like Coutinho or Perisic.

If we want to back Greenwood as our starter for next season, then maybe get someone who is an adequate backup and adds some pace / directness to the attack. Someone like Valencia for times when we're chasing a goal and plan A isn't quite working. James might have been that player but doesn't quite cut it IMO. Struggling to think of a time when he came on to change the game.

Sarr could be good + available for a reasonable price.
 
Teja said:
Need a good loan deal like Coutinho or Perisic.

If we want to back Greenwood as our starter for next season, then maybe get someone who is an adequate backup and adds some pace / directness to the attack. Someone like Valencia for times when we're chasing a goal and plan A isn't quite working. James might have been that player but doesn't quite cut it IMO. Struggling to think of a time when he came on to change the game.

Sarr could be good + available for a reasonable price.
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Coutinho would never come here
 
Give it to Michael Owen til end of the season. Or maybe 4-4-2 diamond and get Sancho next year. Mason to rotate with Martial and Rashford.
 
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