Walrus
Oppressed White Male
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Are we talking about how good the players are now, or when they left? Because assuming it is the former, I am not convinced Fletcher at present is a better player than Cleverley.
To be fair I don't think Pogba would find it easy in Premier League and Cleverley and Brady might actually be better players than him. You need to remember that the difference between Premier League and other European leagues is as big as the difference between NBA and the rest of basketball competitions.
He's not saying that. He's saying that being world class in other leagues isn't as good as being average in EPL.Not really. Not the top 6 or 7 leagues anyway.
Pogba is a world class CM, unless you're somehow suggesting that being world class in other leagues is equivalent to the likes of Brady,Cleverley in the PL etc.
He's not saying that. He's saying that being world class in other leagues isn't as good as being average in EPL.
And he's obviously right.
Brady over Pogba is an interesting choice.
You need to read some of our other posts in that matter.What an asinine thing to say in that case. Seeing as 'World Class' is generally used to denote a player widely compared to his peers on an international scale.
A World Class player in Italy,Spain,England,Germany,Brazil,North Korea, Morocco etc is not suddenly going to be worse than Brady or Cleverley because of a change of scenery.
You need to read some of our other posts in that matter.
Ask Balu.Where can i find them?
I kind of agree with them though, Pogba couldn't break into the side when we had no midfielders, he's gone to by far the best team in an easy league and he's been shown to be better than he is, I believe Fergie will be proven right once he moves to another league. Cleverley is used to the pace in the PL and at times looked one of the best midfielders in the league for us.Not really. Not the top 6 or 7 leagues anyway.
Pogba is a world class CM, unless you're somehow suggesting that being world class in other leagues is equivalent to the likes of Brady,Cleverley in the PL etc.
Have people forgotten Vidic?
-----------------Howard-----------
Rafael-----Pique----Vidic-----Evra
----------Fletcher----Pogba-------
---------------Kagawa-------------
Di Maria-------RVP-------Ronaldo
We'd win the League with that team.
Between RVP and Tevez, I'd go with RVP.No Tevez?
Have people forgotten Vidic?
-----------------Howard-----------
Rafael-----Pique----Vidic-----Evra
----------Fletcher----Pogba-------
---------------Kagawa-------------
Di Maria-------RVP-------Ronaldo
We'd win the League with that team.
I kind of agree with them though, Pogba couldn't break into the side when we had no midfielders, he's gone to by far the best team in an easy league and he's been shown to be better than he is, I believe Fergie will be proven right once he moves to another league. Cleverley is used to the pace in the PL and at times looked one of the best midfielders in the league for us.
To be fair I don't think Pogba would find it easy in Premier League and Cleverley and Brady might actually be better players than him. You need to remember that the difference between Premier League and other European leagues is as big as the difference between NBA and the rest of basketball competitions.
Oh Roman you are sweet.Yes. But that was 4 years ago, and he was only 18.
Fergie's decision to not play Pogba, had little to do with lack of ability, and a lot to do with his age. Besides, Pogba has since gone on to elevate his game even further, and put in world class performances -something you have never, and will never say about Cleverley or Brady ( not to take anything away from their decent performances).
I think your argument fits Memphis' situation more, as he was the best player in a weaker league - but not World Class, hence his struggles.
Oh Roman you are sweet.
Brady over Pogba is an interesting choice.
-----------Howard---------------
Rafael - Pique - Evans - Evra
------------Fletcher------------
--------Pogba - Di Maria--------
Nani-----------------------Ronaldo
------------Tevez------------
Or Gibson. Fletcher is shot.Are we talking about how good the players are now, or when they left? Because assuming it is the former, I am not convinced Fletcher at present is a better player than Cleverley.
How's Rossi these days?