Modric, Sniejder, Sanchez , Dea Gea are all realistic.
Not that we will sign all of them but 2 out of these are very realistic.
Not that we will sign all of them but 2 out of these are very realistic.
What do you consider a realistic signing?
- Thread starter golden_blunder
- Start date
Agreed, and it'll be only if he's a proven international star like Sneijder.
Realistic but unlikely due to his wage demands, transfer fee and similar playing position to Rooney
I'm not hugely keen on either but I think Young and Modric are realistic targets, as well as Jack Rodwell. I refuse to believe that United will be reduced to a 30 year old Scott Parker or fecking Charlie Adam.
I hope there is a creative flair player we've not been linked to, on Fergie's list.
I hope there is a creative flair player we've not been linked to, on Fergie's list.
I like Modric, but not Young.
I reckon we will spend £35m on Modric and complement that with a promising young defensive midfielder. Signs point towards Rodwell but im not a big fan of his either, Banega, Hamsik or Defour possibly.
We will finalise the De Gea deal and that will leave us pretty much sorted. The usual 1-2 younger players will come in on smaller fees. I cant see us needing to spunk the cash on another winger, we are more likely to go for another Obertan type signing (hopefully with Hernandez type results though).
To throw another name into the mixer - Miralem Pjanic. Anyone reckon he could do a job for us?
I reckon we will spend £35m on Modric and complement that with a promising young defensive midfielder. Signs point towards Rodwell but im not a big fan of his either, Banega, Hamsik or Defour possibly.
We will finalise the De Gea deal and that will leave us pretty much sorted. The usual 1-2 younger players will come in on smaller fees. I cant see us needing to spunk the cash on another winger, we are more likely to go for another Obertan type signing (hopefully with Hernandez type results though).
To throw another name into the mixer - Miralem Pjanic. Anyone reckon he could do a job for us?
Seriously people i can understand where names like Hamsik or Ever pop up but why are some much people persisting with Defour. Have any of us watched this guy play?! If not. Stop bringing up his name.
I like Pjanic's eye for goal, not sure if he can bring something better than Anderson though.
I think there will be a couple of surprises this Summer and I don't think cost will be an issue. I think our buying will break the £100million barrier.
I don't normally subscribe to muppetry, but I think this could be a realistic figure, especially if we buy anything from Spurs.
I don't normally subscribe to muppetry, but I think this could be a realistic figure, especially if we buy anything from Spurs.
Up to 38m for one player. That is what I believe can get us a player like Sneijder. Anything above that wouldn't make sense when we still have other players to buy to rebuild the squad. That is why I can't see us going for Modric unless we are exchanging some personnel.
I suspect this summer that overall we will spend about what we spent at the beginning of the season in which we last won the champions league.
Its all a matter of whether SAF want to insist on the 4-4-2 or return on the 4-2-3-1
In the former case then we'll need a midfielder whose comfortable with the ball but still able to do the dirty work. I reckon Banega could come for a reasonable price. De Rossi (has yet to sign a new contract) is a realistic target but he's more of a quality DM, Montolivo and Gourcuff are not bad while Modric would cost a bomb but he is a realistic buy. If we aim to return for the 4-2-3-1 formation then there are some decent talent around. Sneijder is the best on the market but he may cost too much. Hamsik will cost in terms of fee but not in terms of salary while Pastore and Ganzo could prove value for money. I was also impressed by Dzagoev the last time I saw him play
This isn't threadworthy. feck me, lads, get a grip.
I think you'll spend £30M on Young and De Gea and try to spend another £30+ on a CM (balanced by offloading some squaddies). I don't think you'll find a CM to spunk your cash on though.
Agree.
Personally, I'd hate to see us spend £30 million + on one player. Never mind the likes of 40 million. It's stupid money, and quite frankly makes me sick. I'd rather create world class players, then buy them for obscene money.
What are your views on Rooney and Ferdinand?
£29 Million on a defender ten years ago was absolutely huge.
Yup, when high quality is required we should be prepared to pay up, and have been in the past. How much would Rooney cost had that transfer been happening today? Would have to probably be nearer £40m than 30, and it'd still be money well spent.
Not advocating filling a squad with huge signings of course, but paying big for key, once-every-few-years players, particularly after a club legend has just retired, shouldn't be sniffed at.
Not advocating filling a squad with huge signings of course, but paying big for key, once-every-few-years players, particularly after a club legend has just retired, shouldn't be sniffed at.
As I've said in the past, you cannot judge transfer values based purely on how they reflect historically but on their relative value against club revenue. On that basis a £30 Million signing for Man United today is cheaper than a £1.5 Million signing in 1990.
Just took a shower and gave this a thought. I come up with this answer. man United is top top club as good as any other in the world in any area but transfers. Making transfers i would say United are 3rd rate team.
I would say the 1st rate transfer teams are Real Madrid and Barcelona. They can pretty much get any player they want. They can outbid any club in the world, they can offer bigger wages when any other club and they are more attractive than all the rest clubs
The 2nd tier probably is Chelsea and City. They aint as attractive destination as the Spanish Giants. But they can outbid and offer bigger wages than all other remaining clubs. Which make those 2 the 3rd and 4th most wanted destination for a regular player. There are some players of course like berbatov who turned down City to join United. But i guess these a minority cases.
Finally there are third class clubs in transfers: United, Inter, Milan, Bayern...
I think considering this, it is easy to clarify what is realistic target for United. It is any player that Neither Barcelona, Real, City or Chelsea may be interested in. Also not a player who plays at Inter, Milan or bayern (or Local EPL rival like Liverpool, Arsenal). Because United may not be willing to pay over the top to get a player of those big clubs. But Outside those teams. I am sure United can get any player they want.
Oh and one other factor. As Real and Barca can get pretty much any player they wish. They tend to sign player just for sake of it. And often top quality players are ejected to make a room for new arrivals. I dont think those could consider realistic targets for United either. United seem to have some sort of pride not to take rejects of the barca or real. Probably Because United consider them self just as good the those clubs. But because of that United miss on some bargains. Looking in the past few years clubs like Milan, Inter and Bayern without such a pride that United have managed to obtain top stars like Ronaldinho, Zlatan, Eto'o, Sneijder, Robben. This year there are rumours that Real will eject Diarra, Kaka, Higuain. I wouldnt consider them realistic targets. Not because United wouldnt be number 1 destination place for those players. But because we wouldnt take the Real trash.
I would say the 1st rate transfer teams are Real Madrid and Barcelona. They can pretty much get any player they want. They can outbid any club in the world, they can offer bigger wages when any other club and they are more attractive than all the rest clubs
The 2nd tier probably is Chelsea and City. They aint as attractive destination as the Spanish Giants. But they can outbid and offer bigger wages than all other remaining clubs. Which make those 2 the 3rd and 4th most wanted destination for a regular player. There are some players of course like berbatov who turned down City to join United. But i guess these a minority cases.
Finally there are third class clubs in transfers: United, Inter, Milan, Bayern...
I think considering this, it is easy to clarify what is realistic target for United. It is any player that Neither Barcelona, Real, City or Chelsea may be interested in. Also not a player who plays at Inter, Milan or bayern (or Local EPL rival like Liverpool, Arsenal). Because United may not be willing to pay over the top to get a player of those big clubs. But Outside those teams. I am sure United can get any player they want.
Oh and one other factor. As Real and Barca can get pretty much any player they wish. They tend to sign player just for sake of it. And often top quality players are ejected to make a room for new arrivals. I dont think those could consider realistic targets for United either. United seem to have some sort of pride not to take rejects of the barca or real. Probably Because United consider them self just as good the those clubs. But because of that United miss on some bargains. Looking in the past few years clubs like Milan, Inter and Bayern without such a pride that United have managed to obtain top stars like Ronaldinho, Zlatan, Eto'o, Sneijder, Robben. This year there are rumours that Real will eject Diarra, Kaka, Higuain. I wouldnt consider them realistic targets. Not because United wouldnt be number 1 destination place for those players. But because we wouldnt take the Real trash.
I don't want to talk about price, but I fear we may have to go quite high this summer. We've avoided dealing with the midfield issues in the last year or two. Why, I do not know. Maybe it was over belief in what we've got, hope that Anderson would make a bigger mark (I still have high hopes for him), trying to avoid pushing Giggs and Scholes out of the team.
But now every man and his dog knows we're going to have to sign at least one midfield player. They've seen our weakness in matches, obviously they know Scholes has retired. And we do need an injection of quality. If Anderson had progressed further or we had bought another youngster who made enough progress in recent years, or if we went for one of of the cheaper players who were available during that time (Sneijder), we could have looked at things differently.
But right now our need for a midfielder is not too dissimilar to our need of a goalkeeper, with the obvious difference that a keeper is a specialist position. In order to remain on top of the tree, we clearly need both. And the fact we failed to address that need in the past could mean us paying through the nose now.
Like we had to when we paid 30m for Rio, or when we paid 30m for Berba after letting Saha go. It was clear we needed a centerhalf, another striker. We haggled, but eventually we paid big time, we had to.
But now every man and his dog knows we're going to have to sign at least one midfield player. They've seen our weakness in matches, obviously they know Scholes has retired. And we do need an injection of quality. If Anderson had progressed further or we had bought another youngster who made enough progress in recent years, or if we went for one of of the cheaper players who were available during that time (Sneijder), we could have looked at things differently.
But right now our need for a midfielder is not too dissimilar to our need of a goalkeeper, with the obvious difference that a keeper is a specialist position. In order to remain on top of the tree, we clearly need both. And the fact we failed to address that need in the past could mean us paying through the nose now.
Like we had to when we paid 30m for Rio, or when we paid 30m for Berba after letting Saha go. It was clear we needed a centerhalf, another striker. We haggled, but eventually we paid big time, we had to.
so, madrid and barca are the christian kid at christmas.
city and chelsea are the jewish kid at christmas.
and now united is the muslim kid at christmas?
dude i dont see how muslim and jew kid is any different. Neither of them celebrate Christmas.
It's not as simple as that, signing a player these days involves an equal commitment in wages.
Depends on 2 things: right player (incl. age) and the fee.
We need players in these positions
Goalkeeper
Central Midfield (whatever role)
Left-Sided Winger
(perhaps another striker)
You could argue that we need 2 central midfield players.
GK: seems to be De Gea at 17m
Seems to be the kind of figure for the GK we want
CM: Pastore/Schneider/Nasri/Modric
As we want this type of player more the price seems to be high.
Figures of 44m seem to be quoted. I can't see us spending more than 30m on this player - who must be 25 or under. Also - they must WANT to come to us which is difficult as for quality players of this type they seem to prefer Spain & Italy.
Winger: Young/Sanchez
The figure quote for Young of 15m seems to be good. But 32m for Sanchez seems high. Think Sanchez seems to WANT to come to us though so IF (BIG IF!!!) that is true - then we might pick him up for between 25 - 32 or Sancez stays put.
Can't readily think of any other wingers apart from Costa & Hazard who I'm not overly-impressed by.
We need players in these positions
Goalkeeper
Central Midfield (whatever role)
Left-Sided Winger
(perhaps another striker)
You could argue that we need 2 central midfield players.
GK: seems to be De Gea at 17m
Seems to be the kind of figure for the GK we want
CM: Pastore/Schneider/Nasri/Modric
As we want this type of player more the price seems to be high.
Figures of 44m seem to be quoted. I can't see us spending more than 30m on this player - who must be 25 or under. Also - they must WANT to come to us which is difficult as for quality players of this type they seem to prefer Spain & Italy.
Winger: Young/Sanchez
The figure quote for Young of 15m seems to be good. But 32m for Sanchez seems high. Think Sanchez seems to WANT to come to us though so IF (BIG IF!!!) that is true - then we might pick him up for between 25 - 32 or Sancez stays put.
Can't readily think of any other wingers apart from Costa & Hazard who I'm not overly-impressed by.