What do we still need? Post Summer 2017 edition

For next season, assuming we go with a 433.

RB: Valencia, TFM
LB: Shaw, Young
CB: Bailly, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, VNL
DM: Matic, New
CM: Pogba, Perreira
CM:New, Herrera
WF: Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Sanchez, Mata
ST: Lukaku, New

New DM to rotate with Matic (No idea who). New CM to start with Pogba (Kroos would be a dream) and a backup striker.
Sell Darmian, Blind, Fellaini and send McTominay, Tuanzebe, Gomes and Chong on loan.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
40m for Rakitic
and hopefully one club gives us a "yes" :) ......Verratti/Kroos/Koke/Thiago are probably unlikely so i go for my most realistic transfer wish Rakitic (If Barca are going for Griezmann in the summer then they need surely money from outgoing transfers and in midfield they've now anyway good options with Coutinho/Iniesta/Paulinho).
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There is some serious delusion in these sentences.
Why would we sell Rakitic to anyone exactly? We don't have shortage of funds, and top of that new Nike deal starts next season. If anyone wants to take Rakitic, pay the release clause and convince him to move. His clause is at 125m.

Also, Rakitic doesn't play the Iniesta, Coutinho or Paulinho role. I don't know how many matches have you seen rakitic play, but he is not even remotely similar to the players you named. And Iniesta is definitely not going to play next season (or even if he doesn't retire he would be playing very less). We are buying Arthur to reinforce our CM position, no plans or logic to send one of our best players away. People will laugh if you bid 40m for rakitic.
 
Down to me it would be Weigl or Jorginho, Savic, Sandro and Meunier, we would be set to challenge on all fronts next season

DDG
Romero
Meunier Lindelof Bailly Sandro
Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw

Weigl or Jorginho
Matic
Savic Pogba
Herrera Pereira

Sanchez Lukaku Martial
Mata Rashford Lingard

Plus TFM, Tuanzebe and McTominay to make up the 25 man squad

If Jose sticks to 4-2-3-1 would be surprised if he went all in on Griezmann or Dybala
 
#00F said:
There is some serious delusion in these sentences.
Why would we sell Rakitic to anyone exactly? We don't have shortage of funds, and top of that new Nike deal starts next season. If anyone wants to take Rakitic, pay the release clause and convince him to move. His clause is at 125m.

Also, Rakitic doesn't play the Iniesta, Coutinho or Paulinho role. I don't know how many matches have you seen rakitic play, but he is not even remotely similar to the players you named. And Iniesta is definitely not going to play next season (or even if he doesn't retire he would be playing very less). We are buying Arthur to reinforce our CM position, no plans or logic to send one of our best players away. People will laugh if you bid 40m for rakitic.
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:lol::wenger:
 
Would like to think we'll get two midfielders in the summer, Mensah back, and buy a couple of young talented players, hopefully that Fulham lad been one.

The conundrum is Rashford, as in an ideal world he'd be good competition for Lukaku, but he's been struggling for a while now, if he steps up great, if not then maybe a loan wouldn't be such a bad idea, afterall he's still so young, if that's the case then we need a striker.
 
“I don’t want attacking players so don’t speak about attacking players. We have Mata, Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Alexis - I don’t want attacking players in the summer.” Mourinho

Fullback and midfielder then?
 
We need a DM ... maybe someone like Casemiro (Madrid), Jorginho (Napoli) or Fabinho (Monaco).

LB: maybe Layvin Kurzawa (PSG), Dalbert Henrique (Inter).
 
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Adnan said:
“I don’t want attacking players so don’t speak about attacking players. We have Mata, Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Alexis - I don’t want attacking players in the summer.” Mourinho

Fullback and midfielder then?
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Was this from last week or the post match stuff yesterday?
 
I think Chong will be given a shot at RW. Which I think is the right decision.
 
I think expect 3 signings at the very most. Our attack will be untouched even with Zlatan leaving due to the sheer numbers we have. Same for CB's, we've got a lot of cover and Bailly coming back will do us wonders. Can't see RB either with the progress of TFM and the current form of Valencia.

That only leaves:

CM as the most necessary signing. Might even see 2 players for this position, ideally a big money box-to-box player and a Matic understudy/competition. Maybe even the other way round.

LB is another position in which we could see an improvement. Young is 33 and we're yet to see if Shaw can be the dependable figure we need. Also expecting Blind and Darmian to leave as well which will encourage a signing for this position.
 
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Adnan said:
He also says, "For speculation for the summer, you have to go to other areas"

I think he'll go for a CB too
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Cheers, he seems very definite, which at least means nothing daft like buying Bale, but I still don't think the mix is right.

If we get a CB I think we'll sell one, otherwise Axel is never going to even get into the rotation. Alderweireld's down to one year left on his contract so I could see Jose going for him.
 
Wouldn't mind too much if we don't go for someone to replace Zlatan since we have a few younger players who could function as a backup to Lukaku.

Big area is the midfield. Need someone to start along with Pogba/Matic and then someone to give Matic rest.

2 Midfielders and a CB are needed most. Followed by backup fullbacks
 
After Mourinho's latest comments I am now firmly in the 'spend big on a top class CM and go 4-3-3' camp.

6 attackers: Lukaku, Rashford, Sanchez, Martial, Lingard, Mata. Plenty of options although obviously we need one of them to be good on the right which isn't the case atm. Ibrahimovic is obviously leaving.

6 midfielders: Pogba, Matic, new CM, Herrera, McTominay plus either Fellaini or Pereira. (If Fellaini renews then we will sell Pereira I think, if Fellaini leaves then we will keep him). Looks okay.

Too many defenders: Shaw, Young, Rojo, Bailly, Blind, Smalling, Jones, Lindelof, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe, Valencia, Darmian, new RB. If we aren't buying a RW then a new RB becomes even more important. We definitely have a lot of deadwood in defence that should be cut. Darmian and Blind barely play so they can go but I also want to see a CB leave.

Only buying two players like Mourinho has talked about should mean we only go for the absolute best and pay whatever it takes.
 
I hope we go all out for Miralem Pjanic and a Fernandinho mk2 like @Murder on Zidane's Floor put it in one of his earlier posts.

Who this Fernandinho mk2 is I have no idea but a player of that ilk is needed for the big games imo.
 
A box to box midfielder who can play alongside Pogba(I would go for Vidal),a deep lying playmaker to compete with Matic a new RB to compete with Valencia and a ball playing CB who can carry the ball forward.I wouldn't sign a LB because I think that Shaw will really establish himself as a regular next season...
 
Not saying this just on tonight's game but doucoure could be worth a shout for cm/cdm position. Looks immense going forward whenever I've seen him play and solid defensively. Would definitely free up Pogba
 
For CB, I feel Jose will go after Raphael Varane this summer. He's a big fan of the guy, and Madrid is open to negotiations. Now, sure, the guy is injury prone and hasn't progressed much since he came out on the stage at 18 years old, but he was already a pretty damn solid CB from the word go and I wouldn't mind seeing how he does in the Premier league.
 
Sayros said:
For CB, I feel Jose will go after Raphael Varane this summer. He's a big fan of the guy, and Madrid is open to negotiations. Now, sure, the guy is injury prone and hasn't progressed much since he came out on the stage at 18 years old, but he was already a pretty damn solid CB from the word go and I wouldn't mind seeing how he does in the Premier league.
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Just sounds like a bad idea all round. Last thing we need is another injury-prone CB. If we sign someone, it needs to be an experienced leader to partner Bailly.
 
Pjanic, Weigl, Tierney, Meunier

2 CM's, 2 FB's, some outgoings, job sorted. I want Pulisic but unless an attacker leaves I don't see it.
 
SS said:
Just sounds like a bad idea all round. Last thing we need is another injury-prone CB. If we sign someone, it needs to be an experienced leader to partner Bailly.
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I agree, the club is all set with Phil Jones as it is, but I'm not calling it a good or bad idea; I just think this is who Mourinho will go after.
 
L1nk said:
Pjanic, Weigl, Tierney, Meunier

2 CM's, 2 FB's, some outgoings, job sorted. I want Pulisic but unless an attacker leaves I don't see it.
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That would be close to perfect, I'd rather sign Sessegnon though because I think he's going to go on to be a star. Also these incomings indicate we'd switch to 433. If that is the case, then Mata is completely useless to us and should be replaced by Pulisic as you suggest. We'd be huge contenders to City next year if we got those purchases.

Seems like we're only going to bring in 2 players though according to Jose, so most likely we're going to be scrapping for top 4 again:)
 
I think Pulisic is probably the most overhyped player going. I mean he's clearly good but he's not exceptional by any stretch. The only thing exceptional about him is his nationality it would seem. Bailey is the far better prospect if we're looking to the Bundesliga.
 
I think Sessegnon is a certain target and a guy who can play multiple roles. Mourinho would love him.

In:
Sessegnon - £30-40m
Kovacic - £40m
Milinkovic-Savic - £55-65m
Gimenez - £35-40m

Out:
Blind - £10m
Romero - £10m
Carrick (retiring)
Fellaini - Free
Smalling - £20m
Darmian - £10m
Ibra - Free

Final squad of:

De Gea/Pereira

Valencia/Young Bailly/Lindelof Gimenez/Jones Shaw/Sessegnon

Sergej/McTominay Matic/Herrera Pogba/Kovacic

Sanchez/Mata Lukaku/Rasford Martial/Lingard​

Still have Rojo and I can see Gomes getting games too.

Is a powerful squad with depth and variety with a lot of the deadwood gone. I think we'll see more variation with the formations and lineups - We simply can't have Matic and Lukaku playing every game next season. Kovacic and Sergej could themselves form a great midfield and would be great signings. I could see Sessegnon being an incredible wing back - if our attackers are out of form he would also be an option on the wing. Outstanding prospect - Maybe the best in the country.

This is also pretty dependent on our attacking play improving from now to the end of the season. A lot of those attackers and I'd include Pogba from midfield really need to start producing if we're to be as reliant on them again. Sanchez should see us improve significantly - The question is whether or not it's adequate. The group still lags behind City's.

Edit: Apologies for the double post.
 
CB, RB, RW, CMx2

Likely positions to be added CMx2, RW.
 
Sayros said:
For CB, I feel Jose will go after Raphael Varane this summer. He's a big fan of the guy, and Madrid is open to negotiations. Now, sure, the guy is injury prone and hasn't progressed much since he came out on the stage at 18 years old, but he was already a pretty damn solid CB from the word go and I wouldn't mind seeing how he does in the Premier league.
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Us signing another CB in the Summer would make the whole Lindelof experiment a complete failure, and I can't see Jose cleaning his hands of that just yet. I think once Bailly is back we are more than equipped in that position anyways. I'd like to see Rojo given more game time at CB now with the prospect of moving one of the calamity brothers on in Summer.
 
Summer 2018
RW- If we haven't got this position sorted by the end of the season.
Carrick Replacement
Fellaini Replacement
World class CB
 
IN-
Jorginho
Nabil fekir
B2b if fellaini leaves(Vidal)
Meunier

OUT-
Blind
Darmian
Fellaini
Carrick
Ibra
Mata


Degea

Meunier bailly lindelof shaw

Matic
Jorginho
Pogba

Sanchez Martial
Lukaku




Degea
Meunier bailly lindelof/smalling shaw

Matic/jorginho

Vidal/Fekir pogba


Sanchez/Fekir Sanchez/Martial

Lukaku/Rashford
 
Irish Jet said:
I think Pulisic is probably the most overhyped player going. I mean he's clearly good but he's not exceptional by any stretch. The only thing exceptional about him is his nationality it would seem. Bailey is the far better prospect if we're looking to the Bundesliga.
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I'm not sure of many better 19 year olds playing at his level in the Bundesliga and CL, of course he is raw as hell but the talent is there for all to see, i'm not bothered about his nationality but you can guarantee the Glazers will be. You point out Leon Bailey but he is predominantly a LW, i point out Pulisic because he is predominantly a RW, which is inherently what we lack. Personally i would prefer Julian Brandt than Leon Bailey as well, but just my 2 cents.
 
bucky said:
LB: Alex Sandro, Emerson, Jorge
RB: Ricardo Pereira, Mukiele, A. Toure
MF: Cyprien, Weigl
RW: Pulisic
Edit: Griezmann, Lemar would obviously be ace as well.

At present, I would like to see one of them for each position. Other players could obviously emerge over the course of the season. Emerson and Cyprien could be bargains, if they recover from their knee injuries.
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Don't think much has changed for me. Alexis should make Griezmann unnecessary. I'd still love us to sign Lemar, Pulisic or Bailey, but we can't have them all. I don't think we need another striker.

Getting Meunier depends entirely on what PSG are able to do this upcoming summer and they would need to buy another right-back, which I can't see happening. I can only see them sell Meunier, if they go for Fabinho. If we truly wanted Fabinho, we would have signed him by now. We need to get younger at RB though, so it's either Ricardo Pereira or Nordi Mukiele for me.

As for LB, I wouldn't trust Shaw to stay fit and unless we bring in R. Pereira we need a player there, since Blind and Darmian will be sold and Young can't be the makeshift full-back for long. Alex Sandro is the obvious choice, Jorge the other IMO. Sessegnon seems more like a winger long-term, but if he's brought in as a LB that would be adequate, too. Perhaps Wenger is daft enough to sell us Maitland-Niles, he looks promising as well, can't see it happening though.

Rodrigo is far an away the best option as competition and eventual successor for Matic IMO. I'd prefer him to Weigl. I am not sure, if Madrid are actually willing to sell Kovacic, if not there are other options to explore. Cyprien, NDombele, Seri and Kondogbia could be alternatives. I'd prefer the first 2. Saul, Koke and Thiage are worth mentioning, but they are a pipe dream.

So all in all: R. Pereira or Mukiele, Alex Sandro or Sessegnon, Rodrigo, Cyprien or NDombele.
 
Irish Jet said:
I think Sessegnon is a certain target and a guy who can play multiple roles. Mourinho would love him.

In:
Sessegnon - £30-40m
Kovacic - £40m
Milinkovic-Savic - £55-65m
Gimenez - £35-40m

Out:
Blind - £10m
Romero - £10m
Carrick (retiring)
Fellaini - Free
Smalling - £20m
Darmian - £10m
Ibra - Free

Final squad of:

De Gea/Pereira

Valencia/Young Bailly/Lindelof Gimenez/Jones Shaw/Sessegnon

Sergej/McTominay Matic/Herrera Pogba/Kovacic

Sanchez/Mata Lukaku/Rasford Martial/Lingard​

Still have Rojo and I can see Gomes getting games too.

Is a powerful squad with depth and variety with a lot of the deadwood gone. I think we'll see more variation with the formations and lineups - We simply can't have Matic and Lukaku playing every game next season. Kovacic and Sergej could themselves form a great midfield and would be great signings. I could see Sessegnon being an incredible wing back - if our attackers are out of form he would also be an option on the wing. Outstanding prospect - Maybe the best in the country.

This is also pretty dependent on our attacking play improving from now to the end of the season. A lot of those attackers and I'd include Pogba from midfield really need to start producing if we're to be as reliant on them again. Sanchez should see us improve significantly - The question is whether or not it's adequate. The group still lags behind City's.

Edit: Apologies for the double post.
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Sessegnon and Lee O'Connor could be absolutely incredible wing backs in a couple of years.
 
We'll definitely get a midfielder after that it's a bit of a mystery. I reckon we won't sign more than 3 anyway.
 
Fabinho(£40m), SMS(£60m), Bailey(£40m) and Sessegnon(£40m) would constitute a perfect Summer for me. We could probably get £65m from Blind, Darmian, Herrera and Mata, which brings us to a net spend of £115m.

IN/OUT
Fabinho (Herrera)
SMS (Carrick)
Sessegnon (Blind)
Bailey (Ibrahimovic)
TFM (Darmian)
Pereira (Fellaini)
Gomes (Mata)

OUT Fabinho (Herrera) SMS (Carrick) Sessegnon (Blind) Bailey (Mata) TFM (Darmian) Pereira (Fellaini) Gomes (Ibrahimovic)
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That backup X11 has frightening pace and agility. Tuanzebe to come in for the 4th choice CB in 2019.
 
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