What do we still need? Post Summer 2017 edition

  • A left back who can contribute to the attack.

  • A right midfielder who isn't a 10 or a 9 shoehorned out wide.

  • Tony V's successor. I think TFM has what it takes but he's still very young.
 
Lemar and Griezmann next summer and that's it. Quality over quantity.

Shaw, Mensah & Axel still got fair shot at being successful, so buy only in emergency situation.
 
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RB, LB and RW and we're sorted out in every position imo. Also a young DMF to replace Carrick who will be gone in the next summer most probably leaving only Matic in this position.
 
LB: Alex Sandro, Emerson, Jorge
RB: Ricardo Pereira, Mukiele, A. Toure
MF: Cyprien, Weigl
RW: Pulisic
Edit: Griezmann, Lemar would obviously be ace as well.

At present, I would like to see one of them for each position. Other players could obviously emerge over the course of the season. Emerson and Cyprien could be bargains, if they recover from their knee injuries.
 
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Griezmann.

I think Shaw will workout.

We are finally getting to the stage where don't need half a new first team every summer.
 
It's clear that we're still weak in full back positions, and I'm still not convinced by Mkhitaryan and Mata at No10/RW. So that's 4 players, but i think given the prices, we should be looking at 2 next summer, and 2 the following summer, we should be past that phase of 3-5 players every summer now. Eg, next summer, we need the LB and the RW, and following that we can focus on the RB and No10.

LB - Danny Rose (Alex Sandro or David Alaba if we're being muppets:drool:)
RB - Sidibe (from Monaco) or Meunier (though I'm still surprised we passed on Aurier at that price)
RW - Carrasco
No10/AM - Dele Alli

I think the Greizman ship has sailed, and besides Carrasco is a much more logical target given he would fit into the team, rather than being shoehorned in.

Alli probably raises some eyebrows, but given we've always has the best English players play here, he's an obvious option to fill the slot at no10, and can also play in a 3-man midfield with Pogba and Matic. He'd cost £100m+, but like I said we should be at the stage where we only buy 1 or 2 players who would really improve us. Unlike Kane, Alli has no loyalty to Spurs, and I think he'd instantly jump at a chance to move to one of the major clubs where he can actually win things.
 
The squad is relatively settled as things stand, and seems to be the most cohesive it's ever been in the post-Ferguson era - which is a big deal because lots of turnover can have a destabilizing effect - especially when the starting XI has many revolving doors. As long as you're not actively regressing, stability often breeds success under a determined manager. Considering that, we could stand to go in a couple different directions and add maybe 2-3 players (without sabotaging squad harmony) if the right ones are available for Mourinho's scheme.

Pulisić would be a really exciting signing - more of an inverted attacker when he plays out wide, and not exactly a winger or wide midfielder in the traditional sense:




One thing I like is that we don't have a lot of desperate needs apart from maybe leftback, so it essentially boils down to just 3 or 4 positions where we can wait for the rights options to crop up (unless you want to significantly strengthen the depth, too). Whoever is signed has to be top notch (or potentially top notch), though - which aligns perfectly with Mourinho's past comments wrt. progressively raising the level of the relatively settled team - from the one he inherited, to a potential league winner, and then a genuine European contender.

Brick by brick building seems to be the mewthod, and of the teams you laid out I like this one the best, I think Griezmann/Pulisic/Mkhi/Mata would give us 4 strong options across the #10/RWF roles.

Matic is on a reasonably short term contract, so I would expect a younger replacement to be considered, possibly Dendocker or maybe Fabinho again...!

Agreed, it makes sense to add that younger holder to the mix and Dendoncker seems like he'd suit Mourinho.

LB: Alex Sandro, Emerson, Jorge
RB: Ricardo Pereira, Mukiele, A. Toure
MF: Cyprien, Weigl
RW: Pulisic

At present, I would like to see one of them for each position. Other players could obviously emerge over the course of the season. Emerson and Cyprien could be bargains, if they recover from their knee injuries.

I like those picks, getting Dortmund to part with one of those will cost an arm and a leg though, nevermind both! Who is Mukiele?
 
I don't think Jose liked any of the available FBs this summer, otherwise he would've pulled the trigger on them much earlier in the window.
 
A top class right winger and a left back if Shaw is not up to it. A top right back to eventually replace Valencia would not be a bad idea.
 
We need to sign better options for the 4 corners in the next two windows. LB, LW, RB, RW
The only caveat being whether Shaw can nail down the LB spot. I still think Martial playing at LW is just shoehorning him in where he doesn't belong. He can't cross, and he rarely gets his dribble correct. I think Martial should be used as a backup striker for now. Same goes for Rashford. But, we are stuck with them for LW because we didn't bring anyone else in.
Mata is not a winger. Mkhitaryan is strongest centrally. Tony V is getting old.

I think we missed out on a couple of better options this summer. No idea why we didn't go for Mahrez to play RW. He'd be better than Mata. Next summer will be crazy with it being a WC and the way fees were this summer. For all the BS talk Ed Woodward did with his watch this space comments a couple years ago, PSG and City called his bluff this window. I seriously doubt us or anyone else will go toe to toe with PSG on transfers.

With that said, I think we have one of the strongest squads in England. I'm happy with our signings. Matic being the key signing, even above Lukaku. I extremely pleased beyond anything that Rooney is finally gone. What a cancer he'd be this season if he were still a United player. I fancy us to seriously compete for the title along with City and maybe Chelsea. I don't see Spurs, Liverpool, or Arsenal mounting anything to worry about. Let's access where we are end of October. We still have a few favorable run of games to play.
 
I like those picks, getting Dortmund to part with one of those will cost an arm and a leg though, nevermind both! Who is Mukiele?

I agree, but we need to get that top talent anyway, or by all means. Mukiele is a French right-back playing for Montpellier. He's 19, built like a Jose-FB and had a promising start to his career last year. One to keep an eye on. Also playing for France's youth teams.
 
Malcolm in January could be a coup, if he keeps is early form up this season.

I don't think Jose liked any of the available FBs this summer, otherwise he would've pulled the trigger on them much earlier in the window.

Difficult to say, but I think he definitely would have been interested in Alex Sandro IMO. He'd have cost a lot though, which is possibly why he didn't do it or the player didn't want to come.
 
Malcolm in January could be a coup, if he keeps is early form up this season.



Difficult to say, but I think he definitely would have been interested in Alex Sandro IMO. He'd have cost a lot though, which is possibly why he didn't do it or the player didn't want to come.

Yep. We are probably doing the right thing in waiting out the transfer inflation to see where the dust settles in the winter and next summer. City on the other hand, will have spent ridiculous amounts on their FBs this summer with little tangible benefit.
 
Yep. We are probably doing the right thing in waiting out the transfer inflation to see where the dust settles in the winter and next summer. City on the other hand, will have spent ridiculous amounts on their FBs this summer with little tangible benefit.

Ironically Guardiola didn't get the best FB for his possession football IMO due to injury. Emerson would have been cheaper than Mendy and probably more suited to his style of football.
 
I don't think Jose liked any of the available FBs this summer, otherwise he would've pulled the trigger on them much earlier in the window.

Absolutely correct.
Both Aurier & Fabinho were giving signals that they would sign, and I am sure we could have got either if we were genuinely interested, but as we didn't then I'm sure Jose wasn't thrilled by either.
 
Malcolm in January could be a coup, if he keeps is early form up this season.

Malcolm is an interesting prospect from the big I've seen, he's got speed and skill but also a good pass on him. My only reservation is he's very one footed, I like the fact Pulisic for instance can go on the outside as well as cutting in no matter which flank he plays on.

I agree, but we need to get that top talent anyway, or by all means. Mukiele is a French right-back playing for Montpellier. He's 19, built like a Jose-FB and had a promising start to his career last year. One to keep an eye on. Also playing for France's youth teams.

It certainly wont be cheap but I think our transfer model will be one mega signing and a couple from the £30-50M brackett, I'm guessing Griezmann will still be the big signing and then the rest will go to the fullback areas and maybe a CM. Cheers, I'll keep an eye out for Montpellier games on BT sport and get a look at Mukiele.
 
CB : Varane
LB : Hector (+ Luke Shaw)
RB : ? (Young prospect)
DM : Weigl
CM : Goretzka
RW : Griezmann (+ James Wilson)
ST : ? (Experienced)
 
I think we still need a winger who can cross on at least one side, preferably on the right side IMO. I also think we will need a LB. Darmian and Blind are not good enough and I just can't see things working out for Shaw here.....but REALLY hope I'm wrong on that one. I also think we could do with replacing Fellaini with a better option but that won't happen.
 
I think the only player we are missing at this point is a goalscoring attacker who doesn't play in Lukaku's position.

Most successful teams rely on two (or three) main goalscorers, rather than at United where Lukaku is the only proven 20+ goal a year attacker.

I'm hopeful Martial and Rashford improve in this regard but I see Griezmann as fitting in perfectly at the centre of our 3 behind Lukaku. We'd have Rashford/Martial on the left and Mkhitaryan/Mata on the right (both of which could also be Griezmann's understudy).

We'll see how Shaw comes back this season for Left Back but I don't see this as a huge concern with Blind more than capable. I think Valencia has another season left in him after this one, such is his great fitness.

Possibly a young midfielder to come in with Carrick's imminent retirement, uncertainty with Fellaini (as well as Matic being 30 next Summer).
 
A new RB to transition for Valencia, definitely a new starter LB. I don't trust nor rate any of our currently available or injured options at LB
 
CB : Varane
LB : Hector (+ Luke Shaw)
RB : ? (Young prospect)
DM : Weigl
CM : Goretzka
RW : Griezmann (+ James Wilson)
ST : ? (Experienced)

He's finished here. I think he was only named in the Premier League squad to make up the numbers, he'll be based with the under 23's and then go out on loan in January.
 
A good full back, specially on the left side, as i still think tfm can be a good successor of valencia.

A good wide man, on the right side. An out an out winger with good crossing abilities.

And yeah, griezman, to replace mata.
 
Left back
Blind, Shaw, Rojo and then there's also the option of Darmian and Young.

Right back
Valencia, Darmian, Jones, young again

I don't see the problem?
The only position we're lacking in is right wing...again Young is an option there too, at least he can cross.
 
Left back
Blind, Shaw, Rojo and then there's also the option of Darmian and Young.

Right back
Valencia, Darmian, Jones, young again

I don't see the problem?
The only position we're lacking in is right wing...again Young is an option there too, at least he can cross.

Honestly are you happy with any of those names you have listed? Yes we have cover - great - but are they going to take us to the next level?

Like most people I think probably a LB (Shaw has been given another shot, not sure how wise a decision that was) long term RB and top class right winger.

If we got all that we would have real balance to the squad. I don't buy into griezman and frankly after he messed us around I wouldn't want him. People seem to be forgetting how well mky has done for us when he is played in his no10 slot, rather than shoehorned into RW. I mean how many assists has the guy got already? Buying griezman would mean shoving either outwide which would be pointless. That ship has sailed.
 
I think we will sign 4 players again

For now we fine at RB, CB I would hope Jose signs a top class one to partner Bailly, if shaw can't show any fitness levels a LB is needed. In attack we will need 2 players, one to replace mata or zlatan as I feel both will be moved on, and maybe a winger if the right one comes across.

So overall a CB, LB an attacking forward and a winger, we get these 4 and the right kind of players to go straight into the starting 11, and we will have the team we need to wreck havoc on everyone in the PL, and challenge in europe. I do think if either rashford or martial nail that left hand side we will be fine, mkhi can easily do a great job on the right, having a combination of Griezmann and mkhi interchanging that right and no10 position will be devastating. We have pogba and matic both playing together in their prime, lets get the best attacking players available to really get us back where we were like 2008, when the side was very powerful in every position. But? martial and rashford has subs options next season at times with a new winger is going to give Jose so many options, and give us balance we need

The team is looking like this
DDG
valencia ?? bailly ??
matic pogba
Mkhi ?? martial/rashford
lukaku

Honestly are you happy with any of those names you have listed? Yes we have cover - great - but are they going to take us to the next level?

Like most people I think probably a LB (Shaw has been given another shot, not sure how wise a decision that was) long term RB and top class right winger.

If we got all that we would have real balance to the squad. I don't buy into griezman and frankly after he messed us around I wouldn't want him. People seem to be forgetting how well mky has done for us when he is played in his no10 slot, rather than shoehorned into RW. I mean how many assists has the guy got already? Buying griezman would mean shoving either outwide which would be pointless. That ship has sailed.

Those options are fine for this season, next season squad building never stops or we doing the 2009-13 rounds, or 99-01 happy with what we got, and not building a squad that can go to new levels and it becomes a state of regression. Jose knows that, he's evolving how we play it looks. We 4 players short at LB, CB, upfront and out wide, and I think he will get those players, hell he may go for 5 for missing out on his 4th signing this summer. Mata, zlatan will be replaced with a allround front player, and a winger giving us more options and more balance adding more to our starting 11
 
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Left back
Blind, Shaw, Rojo and then there's also the option of Darmian and Young.

Right back
Valencia, Darmian, Jones, young again

I don't see the problem?
The only position we're lacking in is right wing...again Young is an option there too, at least he can cross.


Again that is fine for this season, next season we got to improve area's that can get better, that's the whole point of transition slash squad building, or its a season wasted where we start to become stale and a state of regression starts kicking in, like lets say arsenal for so many years, and united 2009-13. Remember 2010? ah these players can do a job, bet carrick could do a job last season or year before, but matic comes in and you see the level that it surprises you. If united improve CB, LB, out wide, the degree of level of the teams ability shoots up, and then teams coming up against us are even weaker than us.
 
I agree with most, a top LB. Shaw is a gamble and this should of been addressed this summer imo.
A two footed winger, hard to find I know, but if we couldnt find one I would opt for a LW rather than a RW. Lukaku is mainly left footed and low crosses from the left would suit him better.
A Solskjaer/Hernandez type of scorer, who would be happy to come off the bench and change things if we need a late goal. Im still not impressed with Rashford or Martial goal return when played from the start, and is Pogba Miki Matic going to get the goals if Lukaku doesnt? Spurs have Alli and Erickssen to pick up the slack, City have numerous scorers for example.
 
Does anyone think we might have gone in for Llorente as a back up striker if we didn't re-sign Ibrahimovic?
 
Will there ever be a time the answer to this sort of thread is "no, we're 100% sorted".

No chance.
 
GKs - Best in the league. Have a fantastic #1 and a very high quality back-up keeper in Romero.

RB - Valencia is a wierd one in the sense that usually converted wingers struggle more with the defending side, but actually Tony Vs biggest weakness is his attacking play. I would say Valencia isn't necessarily a problem but not world class either.

LB - known problem position. Shaw is always injured. Blind is technically good but slow and a little weak, Darmian has no stand out abilities and is just pretty unspectacular. Needs improvement.

CB - I like our 4 CBs and when you throw in Axel, Blind and even TFM we are well stocked. That being said, I don't think any of them are world class. Bailly could be but is still a little way away. Jones, Rojo and Smalling all very good but come with their own strings attached.

CM - Contentious one. I think Matic and Pogba are excellent but not a big Herrera fan and we all know about Fellaini's limitations. We are strong in midfield but an injury away from looking pretty average again.

AML - Martial and Rashford both show their talent in bursts but neither are truly great players yet.

AMR - Not a Mata fan, too slow, too predictable. Don't like Mhiki as a winger either and I don't think Lingard is the answer.

AMC - Mhiki goes from the sublime to the anonymous. Mata too slow and predicatable. Don't like Pogba as an AMC

ST - No complaints with Lukaku but again we are an injury away from having to play a kid.

All that taken into account, I think we could win a title with just a few minor tweaks and some luck with injuries, however I think that's more a reflection on the fact that there are no truly great sides in the PL at the moment. To be a force in Europe and dominant domestically we still need a CB, a LB, another CM, a #10 and an AMR for me.

That is not to say that the likes of Martial, Rashford, TFM, Tuanzabe and Shaw could step up but none of them are quite there yet for me
 
Will there ever be a time the answer to this sort of thread is "no, we're 100% sorted".

No chance.

Possibly next summer when Mourinho puts what he thinks are the finishing pieces in place, which will probably looks like a FB, LW, and Griezmann
 
More I think about it, it really depends what our aspirations are.

To challenge for the league we have a squad capable for that. If we want to challenge in Europe we are quite a bit away.

Think we could do with a right back and a left back, not really convinced by any of the options for that level. Luke Shaw being anywhere near the standard required is a unproven myth.

We could really do with a midfielder who can control a game ala Modric/Kroos/Alonso. Not sure who, but someone who can sit deep and dictate. I do think if given the chance Pereira can become this player.

Martial to me is a potential world beater, and the pace of Rashford will frighten anyone if he can improve his end product. Mkhi goes missing too often though and I do feel we could get someone top class to play in behind Lukaku.

De Gea
Munier - Bailly - Rojo - Sandro
Pogba - Matic
Rashford - Griezmann - Martial
Lukaku​

Something like that we'd be set imo. Neither Munier or Sandro are probably realistic but they'd be vast improvements.
 
More I think about it, it really depends what our aspirations are.

To challenge for the league we have a squad capable for that. If we want to challenge in Europe we are quite a bit away.

Think we could do with a right back and a left back, not really convinced by any of the options for that level. Luke Shaw being anywhere near the standard required is a unproven myth.

We could really do with a midfielder who can control a game ala Modric/Kroos/Alonso. Not sure who, but someone who can sit deep and dictate. I do think if given the chance Pereira can become this player.

Martial to me is a potential world beater, and the pace of Rashford will frighten anyone if he can improve his end product. Mkhi goes missing too often though and I do feel we could get someone top class to play in behind Lukaku.

De Gea
Munier - Bailly - Rojo - Sandro
Pogba - Matic
Rashford - Griezmann - Martial
Lukaku​

Something like that we'd be set imo. Neither Munier or Sandro are probably realistic but they'd be vast improvements.

I like your team but I would replace Munier with Fabinho. Fabinho would provide better value because he can also play midfield so helps with rest and rotation for Matic and Pogba and can also play in a midfield 3 against the better teams. I would also replace either Rashford or Martial with a real winger for added crossing ability (Lemar would be perfect).
 
Can't believe we didn't go for any of; Kolasinac, Mendy, Aurier or Semedo. When they were all available.

But there are still some fullbacks I'd like us to be in for:
Ryan Sessegnon
Thomas Meunier

Meunier has shown his ability to link up well with Lukaku in the national side (plus he's a big United fan) and Ryan Sessegnon looks like the attacking fullback we've been crying out for.
 
I think we'll be looking to sign 3 or 4 again, LB will depend on Shaw but RB can be addressed as Valencia will be 33 at the start of next season and it makes sense for there to be genuine competition for his place as he can start to transition into a squad player to extend his longevity.

On top of that I see another versatile forward that can operate central or off the right coming in, this will likely be the "marquee" signing, and another CM as Carrick retires.

RB - Meunier/Ricardo Pereira
DM - Weigl/Dendoncker
FW - Dybala/Griezmann
 
I would like to see:

Fabinho for right back
Lemar for the wing
Kostas Manolas or Aymeric Laporte or Jonathan Tah for CB
Sergej Milinkovic-Savic or Jean Seri Midfielder
Antoine Griezmann Striker
Ghoulam LB

I would like a complete overhaul of the team and nonperformers shipped out. People to retire or shipped out Ashley Young, Carrack, Zlatan, Darmain, Luke Shaw, D Blind and J Lingard. I would also like either or both Jones and Smalling to be removed. If we bring in one CB then ship one of them out and if we get two then ship out both CBs. We don't need a radical overhaul of the team to be competitive in the EPL, however, I feel an overhaul would lift us closer to the elite European clubs.