What do we still need? Aka The never ending story

Sea-Cow said:
I agree he would be an instant improvement on Onana, but if Pool don't want to do direct business with us we should look to Ramsdale after Southampton get relegated. He is good with the ball at his feet, has the ability to hit quality long balls, and he can actually make saves.
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When I typed that I was convinced he was out of contract in the summer
 
The thing we should be desperately looking for is players that fit a certain athletic profile. Our squad lacks athleticism at every single position. Yoro is the one signing we've actually got right because of it
 
I’d go all out for Shlotterbeck, he genuinely looks world class. Cunha, Ederson, Osimhen in summer. Nuno mendes and rashford swap in jan.
 
You could make a case we need an entirely new squad, but this is where I see things at the moment.

GK - NEED (Onana can be a temporary solution if they want to prioritize other areas, I personally wouldn't)
RCB - Yoro (Maz as depth)
CB - NEED (De Ligt Squad player, temporary solution)
LCB - NEED (Shaw would fit but too injury prone, Martinez needs replacing)
RWB - NEED
CM - Mainoo
CM - Ugarte/Bruno (I think in the long-term he's someone we can look to replace for someone with more athleticism)
LWB - NEED
RW - Amad
ST - NEED (Hojlund gets one more chance next season but not as a definite first choice, needs competition)
LW - NEED (Bruno perhaps can stay here but I think we need someone that can actually carry the ball in the forward three positions)

So that's: GK, two centre backs, two wing backs, two forwards, potentially depth needed in midfield as well. That is dire after the money we have spent.
 
I think we are pretty much lacking these profiles/positions in Amorims system. I’d take any one of these for each position

Left 10 - Marmoush, Cunha, Kvartskhelia, Simons, Rodrygo

Right 10 - Cherki, Dibling

Experienced Striker - Osimhen, Gyokeres, Watkins

LCB - Hancko, Lucumi, Schlotterbeck, Lukeba, Inacio

LWB - Ait Nouri, Mendes, Gutierrez, Kerkez
 
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We have slow & weak duel midfielder including Mainoo (Slow & Weak), Eriksen (Slow & Weak) , Casemiro (Slow), Ugarte (Weak on Aerial),.
We also have below standard center backs including Mgguire (Slow), De Ligt (Slow), Martinez (Slow & Weak on Aerial).
All attackers can't hold ball and weak on duel.
Left & Right wingbacks can't go to final third area and put decent crossing.

How do we compete any other teams in the league?

Manager is less important than the whole squad. If Amorim is not good enough, INEOS can change new manager every 2 years if they want but
problem will exist as long as the poor recruitment continues, and retain all below standard players who's earning top wage ever.

You can laugh at what Chelsea did but they really recruit best talent and clear lot of players out of the team.
Now, What're their position?

Clear all poor players out is as important as recruit the best talent.
Chelsea and Forest are good role model.
 
chris123 said:
You could make a case we need an entirely new squad, but this is where I see things at the moment.

GK - NEED (Onana can be a temporary solution if they want to prioritize other areas, I personally wouldn't)
RCB - Yoro (Maz as depth)
CB - NEED (De Ligt Squad player, temporary solution)
LCB - NEED (Shaw would fit but too injury prone, Martinez needs replacing)
RWB - NEED
CM - Mainoo
CM - Ugarte/Bruno (I think in the long-term he's someone we can look to replace for someone with more athleticism)
LWB - NEED
RW - Amad
ST - NEED (Hojlund gets one more chance next season but not as a definite first choice, needs competition)
LW - NEED (Bruno perhaps can stay here but I think we need someone that can actually carry the ball in the forward three positions)

So that's: GK, two centre backs, two wing backs, two forwards, potentially depth needed in midfield as well. That is dire after the money we have spent.
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Probably correct but there's no way to get all those players needed in one or two windows. You'll have to prioritize and build a team step by step.

If sticking with 3-4-3, I'd go for Frimpong and Cunha to start with. Also probably a LWB. The other positions you have enough players in the squad to do a job there imo.
 
Waynne said:
These guys first please. Anyone else is a bonus.

Ederson
Gkyokeres
Davies
Frimpong
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I would be very afraid that three of these would be massive flops if we signed them. Gyokeres is just a massive risk at the money Sporting would look for, Ederson doesn't to me seem like he does anything to a really high level and Frimpong looked like a child when Leverkusen played Atalanta. He's fast but is very small and lightweight.
 
The more you watch this the more you see how badly Dalot and Maz screw up the tactics.

Maz has been one of if not the best player for me this season but too often he and Dalot are miles behind the play, meaning the two 10’s have moved out to the wing to where they are supposed to be or they are just outnumbered.

If it does come to the 10’s then they turn out to feed the wingbacks only to see them not there meaning the only option is to recycle or try a difficult ball in to Rasmus which he then has no hope of doing anything with as there is no other threat from wide so the back line can stay compact.

With two proper wingbacks however it creates space for the two 10’s and for the striker to actually do something and be higher up the pitch.

Rasmus for example is not a guy to be fighting to hold things up. He should be playing off the shoulder making runs inbehind. Which he does but at the moment we don’t have anyone to service those runs. Frimpong, Mendes, Kerkez would significantly improve that.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
The more you watch this the more you see how badly Dalot and Maz screw up the tactics.

Maz has been one of if not the best player for me this season but too often he and Dalot are miles behind the play, meaning the two 10’s have moved out to the wing to where they are supposed to be or they are just outnumbered.

If it does come to the 10’s then they turn out to feed the wingbacks only to see them not there meaning the only option is to recycle or try a difficult ball in to Rasmus which he then has no hope of doing anything with as there is no other threat from wide so the back line can stay compact.

With two proper wingbacks however it creates space for the two 10’s and for the striker to actually do something and be higher up the pitch.

Rasmus for example is not a guy to be fighting to hold things up. He should be playing off the shoulder making runs inbehind. Which he does but at the moment we don’t have anyone to service those runs. Frimpong, Mendes, Kerkez would significantly improve that.
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I really agree with this. I agree with the consensus that Maz has been a really great player this season and also brings a great character, but in the long run, I think he doesn't suit this system at all. The only role I could imagine is that of a utility backup, especially for the RCB position. But we really gotta upgrade both wing back positions (or get a new no.10 to use Diallo back there).
 
chris123 said:
You could make a case we need an entirely new squad, but this is where I see things at the moment.

GK - NEED (Onana can be a temporary solution if they want to prioritize other areas, I personally wouldn't)
RCB - Yoro (Maz as depth)
CB - NEED (De Ligt Squad player, temporary solution)
LCB - NEED (Shaw would fit but too injury prone, Martinez needs replacing)
RWB - NEED
CM - Mainoo
CM - Ugarte/Bruno (I think in the long-term he's someone we can look to replace for someone with more athleticism)
LWB - NEED
RW - Amad
ST - NEED (Hojlund gets one more chance next season but not as a definite first choice, needs competition)
LW - NEED (Bruno perhaps can stay here but I think we need someone that can actually carry the ball in the forward three positions)

So that's: GK, two centre backs, two wing backs, two forwards, potentially depth needed in midfield as well. That is dire after the money we have spent.
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That seems a bit extreme…..the reality is that once a couple of key areas are fixed - the wing backs for starters and a decent striker then the rest all up the levels as they are able to play proactively in the system rather than reactively as now. Our current play is too slow and no end product.

Once the wing backs have us more on the front foot with quicker and more incisive forward play the overall playing style will improve significantly.

It’s easy to say everyone is shite but they are not. They are just playing shite right now.

Quite often subtle changes can have a big difference. We are currently rock bottom but it won’t stay like that. Changes are needed but they have to be gradual as PSR dictates.
 
I think we need 6/7 over the next 2 windows.

1 LWB
1 ST
2 CAM
1 RWB
1 CM
1 LCB

I don't think that is unattainable, obviously if we can't do any business in Jan it might be a step to far.

We have a lot that could go, I just don't know how we sell them for a decent value, particularly with the ludicrous contracts we have given out over the years.

We need to be after young hungry players between 18-25 who are ready to make the step up, or can be nurtured under RA for the next 2 seasons.
 
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