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He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
Time to open the war chest Woody. No excuses.
Completely agree, we need 3 transfer windows to build PL/CL challenging side. The 200m in the Summer is to correct the madness of the last 7 years, then if we are in the top 3 by next Christmas,we might need to add another 2 players. One being a left back/Utility player like Kieran Tierney or Nathan Ake and the other an up and coming young English attacking midfielder like James Maddison. This would probably cost £75M and then Summer 2020 go out and buy 2 Elite young players like J Sancho and Sergei Milinkosavic to probably replace Pogba in 2020.
My suggestion;
2019 - Summer - T Auderweireld(25m), W Bissaka (40M), A Dacoure (40M), H Lozano (40M), D Costa(60M),D Rice (40M)
2020 - Winter - K Tierney (30M), J Maddison (50M)
2020 - Summer - J Sancho (110M), Sergei Milinkosavic (90M) - Total investment over 3 windows - £525M
Players that would be releases over this period; Alexis (35M china), Rojo (15M), Darmian (10M), Bailey (35M), Herrera, A Young, Mata, A Valencia all frees L Grant (1M), N Matic (19M), Pogba (125M) - Total recouped in Sales £240M - Net Spend over 2 years £285M or A net spend of £140M per window.
( R Lukaku is 25 has not reached his peak, can and will improve has 45 international goals in 70 odd caps, is Icardi or any other others really any better when they will only be joining for money and no other reason?)
2020 Squad would look like this, young, Hungry with a British core and the right mentality.
Goalkeepers, D De Gea, D Henderson, S Romero (Old Pro)
Wing Backs, Wan Bissaka, D Dalot, K Tierney, L Shaw (All under 24)
Centre Backs, T Auderweireld, C Smalling, P Jones, V Lindelof, A Tuanzebe
Centre Defensive Midfielder, Fred, A Dacoure, S McTominay, D Rice
Attacking Midfielder, J Maddison, J Lingard, A Gomez, A Pereirra, SMS
Winger, H Lozano, J Sancho, A Martial, D Costa,
Strikers, M Rashford, R Lukaku, M Greenwood
This would be a mostly British core of young hungry players with pace to burn and real options to play wingers in a 442, 433, 4312or 343 formation, with a squad of 28 and by keeping Lukaku we also keep the physical option. Sign up big Dave on £400k per week and make him captain.
DDGMy opinion on this changes a lot because I wouldn’t mind a 433 with Sancho in it or a 352 but the one thing that needs to change is the speed in which our players move the ball or just make decisions. Because we do as a team tend to shy away from loads of opportunities be it a simple pass or just a slightly riskier one.
Dalot Smalling Lindelof Shaw
Ndombele Saul Pogba
Felix
Lukaku Martial
Personally I think Martial and Lukaku are a better pairing than Rashford and when they’ve played together they’ve shown a decent understanding and Martial works better as sort of creator. They also both naturally drifted out wide opening space through the centre.
We do need a CB but who is really available and attainable and is someone like DeLigt what we need right now or would we be better with more experience or a middle road player like Skriniar and is Varane even really a possibility.
If we ended up with a couple from this list I’d be more than happy.
Felix
Sancho
Aouar
Doucoure
Ndombele
Neves
Varane
Skriniar
Saul
Koulibaly
DeLigt
Chiesa
Neres
WBS
CHO
Umtiti
Rodri
Fernandes
Havertz
2 or 3 from that list and I’d Class it as a great summer.
We could potentially sell or lose: Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Valencia, Darmian, Herrera, Mata and Lukaku. Add Pogba and De geas uncertain futures.
In the case of Pogba, we should keep him for another season. However, if De Gea wants to leave we need to ask for players in return. De Gea for Varane would be ideal. If Lukaku leaves we should be signing someone like Icardi. There is no way we can go into a new season with Rashford as the main striker. For the GK position I can't see us spending big if De Gea leaves, Romero for one season with a replacement the next summer could be the best option especially if we sure up the CB area.
Romero.
Wan Bissaka (40m)-Varane-Alderweireld(25m)-Shaw.
Pellegrini(26m)-Partey(40m)-Pogba
Rashford-Icardi(80m)-Martial
Other options: Brandt (21m), Lozano (40m), Sancho (100m), Rodri (60m), Skriniar (80m).
The team needs a major overhaul and we need to make smart signings. Partey, Pellegrini and Alderweireld all have release clauses. Wan Bissaka should be a straight forward purchase. Varane is the only difficult signing and if Madrid want De Gea he is the only player we should be asking in return. We should go back in for Sancho and a GK the following summer as two major signings + one depth signing. The current team needs more than just 3-4 signings. Having one summer with an overhaul can provide focus in other windows.
I would like to see out match day squad something like this next year :
---------------------DDG---------------
Wan-Bissaka--Toby--Lindelöf--Shaw
-----------------Fred------------------
----Fernandes-----------Pogba--------
Sancho-------Rashford--------Martial
Bench : Romero, McT, Smalling, Dalot, Tuanzebe, Lozano, Lukaku
Sometimes in squad, most days out(If not on loan) : Gomes, Garner, Greenwood, Chong, Jones
That would mean these guys leave : Sanchez, Mata, Herrera, Rojo, Valencia, Young,
Meunier 30m
Alderweireld 28m release clause
Neves 60m
Sancho 50m
De Gea
Meunier Alderweireld Lindelof Shaw
Neves McTominay Pogba
Sancho Rashford Martial
Romero
Dalot Jones Rojo Young
Herrera Matic Fred
Lingard Lukaku Pereira
Out
Valencia Free
Darmian 5m
Smalling 15m
Mata Free
Sanchez 20m
Just fecking do it Ed.
6th.
5th.
4th on GD.
5th or tight squeeze for 4th.
5th
It's going to take more than just the buys to make us into a PL title winner, it will take time and coaching to gel the players, but I am curious as to what buys you think would take us to 2nd next season? A team capable of splitting the current top 2, if not fully ready to win the league.
Loads of holes in the team if we want to challenge for the Title:
Centre Back
Right Back (arguably both fullbacks)
DCM - hopefully a new top class one can make a good midfield three with Fred and Pogba
The whole front three - none of them are top class let alone world class
I genuinely want us to sign a RB and CB first. Our defense is dogshit. RW and CM should be our 3rd and 4th priorities.
We’re way off, a title challenge. Agree, about the front 3. People spending £400m in this thread, and still playing Martial LW.
We need, control and creativity in the midfield. Creativity in the wide areas. Lingard and Martial, have 9 assists between them, in 75+ games.
I see it differently, to you. I think a RB and RW, should be prioritised. Then a midfielder, then a CB. I certainly wouldn’t want us, to spend huge amounts on a CB, if we have limited funds.
Whilst we’re not, solid at the back, better ball retention in the midfield would help. If DDG was more commanding, we’d be better defensively also, lots of catchable crosses, that he just doesn’t come for.
Realistically, 4 players in, this summer and will probably be saying the same next summer. It’s a unbalanced squad.
Lots of decent/good players, who can do a job, but not many exceptional ones, who can change a game.
I guess, it all depends on who leaves. Losing both DDG & Pogba, priorities would change.
I think our biggest problem since Moyes was manager is that we never play a balanced team and so we have to rely on individual performances to get a positive result. If we were to play a balanced team without signing a single player I think we would do better than people think.
The only senior player in our squad that can play effectively on the right of a front 3 is Sanchez. Lukaku is a no9 or a super sub. Rashford and Martial are both best playing from the left and neither can play on the right. Lingard is 26 and still a 6/10 player over the course of a season, not good enough and should be sold. Mata should be sold as he doesn't fit into the team and has become a 6/10 player over the course of a season due to age. Chong is a left footed, right wing attacker. Greenwood is someone that could hopefully play any position in front 3 as he is 2 footed.
A full season of Martial/Rashford - Lukaku - Sanchez with Greenwood and Chong as back up is what I would like to see. If Sanchez isn't playing or isn't performing play Chong or Greenwood on the right, not Martial or Rashford. If no Lukaku, play Greenwood.
For midfield, if they are all fit, play Pogba in front of Matic and Herrera. McTominay, Pereira and Fred as back up for Matic and Herrera. Gomes as our no10 if Pogba is rested.
Shaw - Jones - Smalling - Dalot for defense. Jones will most likely be injured at some point so our defense then becomes Shaw - Lindelof - Smalling - Dalot.
At no point in the season should we play Young or McTominay at CB, Dalot as a forward, Pogba in any other position other than no10 in 3 man midfield, Rashford or Martial on the right, weird unbalanced formations. Just play a balanced team every single game. 4-3-3 attacking. Pogba as central no10 every single game. LB and RB every game, Balanced front 3 every game. Replace like for like always when player is injured or needs to be rested.
If we sign a new player, it should be a quality left footed right side attacker because we don't know how good Chong and Greenwood are yet and Sanchez might be finished. This is priority number no1, unless both Greenwood and Chong start strong and show they are ready to be first team regulars.
Sell Valencia and Young as both are 33/34 now, as well as Bailly, Lingard and Mata. Sell Grant as he is a pointless signing, academy GK as 3rd choice always. Keep Rojo and Darmian as back up until we sign RB/LB.
Ok we have 200 million to spend without any sales. We need at least 5 players so we must spend wisely.
Lozano and Wan Bissaka 2 Players @ 40 million each would solve 2 problem positions
Alderweireld @ 25 Million would help solve another, but I still think we would need another with him. ( maybe Tuanzebe will fit in)
(This comes to 105 Million)
Then we have Midfield where I feel we need a DM and an AM. (Ndombele and Fernandes would be my picks) This is where the big money will have to be spent, unless our scouts find someone we have not heard of yet.
If others leave this summer ( Pogba, De Gea, Lukaku), then we will have more problems.
My guess is we will spend £100m, maybe a bit more.
A £50m attacker/winger, a £25m midfielder and a £25m defender. Can't see us spending the £200m+ people are speculating, unless we ship out either Pogba or De Gea for big money.
We'll look for a deal, like when City signed Gundogan for £20m.£25m for a midfielder seems very hopeful. Fred was almost double that.
Only Aguero and Kane have scored more PL goals than him in the last 4 years. Buying either of them isn't "relatively easy".How is Lukaku leaving a problem? Relatively easy to replace with players of similar or arguably better quality, and more suited to the modern game.
The only player we will have issue replacing is Pogba.
Only Aguero and Kane have scored more PL goals than him in the last 4 years. Buying either of them isn't "relatively easy".
So who would be a relatively easy purchase that you could point at as an upgrade? Only Kane and Aguero have proven that since 2015. Salah is a level above as well, but is there anybody else? None of them is a "relatively easy" buy, as you describe them.Thats a very narrow way of thinking. I'm not saying that goals are not crucial in football, but Kane and Aguero offers so much more than Lukaku does. If he could improve his technique and his movement in the box...
So who would be a relatively easy purchase that you could point at as an upgrade? Only Kane and Aguero have proven that since 2015. Salah is a level above as well, but is there anybody else? None of them is a "relatively easy" buy, as you describe them.
Like whom? Morata cost 70 miliion and was a massive bust.One should be allowed to look outside the PL for Lukakus replacement, eventhough they are not scoring PL-goals?
Alderweirld - no brainer for £25m.
Wan Bissaka - him and Dalot can fight it out at RB. £50m
Sancho - our first proper RW in years. £100m
CM - Herrera replacement. Rice? Can fight it out with McT for the DM spot. £50m
£225m. I think spending anymore than that in one window is unrealistic.
It’s by no means perfect, but it’s a good start.
——-———————De Gea
Wan Bissaka - Alderweirld - Lindelof - Shaw
—————————Rice/McT
———-——-Fred ————— Pogba
Sancho —————Rashford———-—-Martial
Like whom? Morata cost 70 miliion and was a massive bust.
Who would be a "relatively easy" purchase that would be a clear upgrade on a Premier League proven striker like Lukaku? Sanchez couldn't do it either.
Dzeko couldn't adapt to the English game. Bringing him in for our top scorer would be madness.Dzeko, Duvan Zapata and Haller. They are not as good physically, but are able to use their frame better, also better on the ball and much better movement.
Jovic is not a "relatively easy" transfer.
I think our biggest problem since Moyes was manager is that we never play a balanced team and so we have to rely on individual performances to get a positive result. If we were to play a balanced team without signing a single player I think we would do better than people think.
The only senior player in our squad that can play effectively on the right of a front 3 is Sanchez. Lukaku is a no9 or a super sub. Rashford and Martial are both best playing from the left and neither can play on the right. Lingard is 26 and still a 6/10 player over the course of a season, not good enough and should be sold. Mata should be sold as he doesn't fit into the team and has become a 6/10 player over the course of a season due to age. Chong is a left footed, right wing attacker. Greenwood is someone that could hopefully play any position in front 3 as he is 2 footed.
A full season of Martial/Rashford - Lukaku - Sanchez with Greenwood and Chong as back up is what I would like to see. If Sanchez isn't playing or isn't performing play Chong or Greenwood on the right, not Martial or Rashford. If no Lukaku, play Greenwood.
For midfield, if they are all fit, play Pogba in front of Matic and Herrera. McTominay, Pereira and Fred as back up for Matic and Herrera. Gomes as our no10 if Pogba is rested.
Shaw - Jones - Smalling - Dalot for defense. Jones will most likely be injured at some point so our defense then becomes Shaw - Lindelof - Smalling - Dalot.
At no point in the season should we play Young or McTominay at CB, Dalot as a forward, Pogba in any other position other than no10 in 3 man midfield, Rashford or Martial on the right, weird unbalanced formations. Just play a balanced team every single game. 4-3-3 attacking. Pogba as central no10 every single game. LB and RB every game, Balanced front 3 every game. Replace like for like always when player is injured or needs to be rested.
If we sign a new player, it should be a quality left footed right side attacker because we don't know how good Chong and Greenwood are yet and Sanchez might be finished. This is priority number no1, unless both Greenwood and Chong start strong and show they are ready to be first team regulars.
Sell Valencia and Young as both are 33/34 now, as well as Bailly, Lingard and Mata. Sell Grant as he is a pointless signing, academy GK as 3rd choice always. Keep Rojo and Darmian as back up until we sign RB/LB.
Dzeko couldn't adapt to the English game. Bringing him in for our top scorer would be madness.
You don't throw away the third best scorer currently playing in the Premier League for a gamble.
Hmmm.