Is Verratti worth a gamble ? Heard he might be open to leaving PSG
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Rasmus + Kim + Mount for ~ 150m... maybe a little less.
Maguire + Scotty + Henderson out for ~ 100m .
So net spend would be ~50m..
Get a keeper .. ~50m
We should be able to afford this without any takeover money.
Get a top striker if we get some takeover money.
If Spurs want Henderson + Maguire, maybe we can get a deal for Kane.
Also, Elanga could leave + Williams .. so maybe 10ish million there.
Maguire + Scotty + Henderson out for ~ 100m .
So net spend would be ~50m..
Get a keeper .. ~50m
We should be able to afford this without any takeover money.
Get a top striker if we get some takeover money.
If Spurs want Henderson + Maguire, maybe we can get a deal for Kane.
Also, Elanga could leave + Williams .. so maybe 10ish million there.
He’s definitely worth a gamble!
think we’ll get two strikers out of Hojlund/Thuram + Kane/Toney
The reality is the club has no money until it pays off it’s credit card revolving line of £200m at the end of the month with all the shenanigans of the Takeover Turmoil let’s try and work on the bases of three scenarios;
Scenario A - The Glazers do not make their mind up until September/October but have kept both potential owners in the loop. Arnold, ETH and Murtourgh carry on their work and look to spend £175-185m after Sales are made. We Sell D Henderson, Fred, H Maguire, E Bailey, B Williams, A Elanga, A Telles for about £75m but Williams, Henderson and Elanga are all net profit £40m which basically buys you £100m player over 5 years at £20m and pays his £15m per year wages on your books.
This is the current path we are on and probably means we would sign;
D Raya(35m), KMJ(50m), A Rabiot(Free), M Mount (60m), R Hojlund (40m), M Thuram (Free)
Scenario B - The most likely right now SJR buys the club with his Glazers put and call deal within next two weeks meaning he takes control in sone form by July. He wants to make a statement and appoints Paul Clements as DOF we sell All of the above list but add S Mctominay and M Greenwood for about £65m so we now have about £320m to spend and probably means we sign ; D Costa(55m), KMJ(50m), R Lavia (35m), M Mount(55m),
R Hojlund(40m), H Kane (90m)
Scenario C - The least likely takeover option but it could still happen SJ and Qatar takeover the club within 2 weeks, Clear the debt in July and instruct a complete clear out all of the above from the two above lists plus AWB, A Martial and J Sancho and Spend £400m on the following ; D Costa (50m),
J Frimpong(30m), KMJ (50m), M Caciedo (75m), M Veratti(25m), M Mount(50m), V Osimhen(120m), Neymar (Loan)
They will pay less on some deals because the Qataris will pay some of them in one instalment not over 4 or 5 years.
Scenario A - The Glazers do not make their mind up until September/October but have kept both potential owners in the loop. Arnold, ETH and Murtourgh carry on their work and look to spend £175-185m after Sales are made. We Sell D Henderson, Fred, H Maguire, E Bailey, B Williams, A Elanga, A Telles for about £75m but Williams, Henderson and Elanga are all net profit £40m which basically buys you £100m player over 5 years at £20m and pays his £15m per year wages on your books.
This is the current path we are on and probably means we would sign;
D Raya(35m), KMJ(50m), A Rabiot(Free), M Mount (60m), R Hojlund (40m), M Thuram (Free)
Scenario B - The most likely right now SJR buys the club with his Glazers put and call deal within next two weeks meaning he takes control in sone form by July. He wants to make a statement and appoints Paul Clements as DOF we sell All of the above list but add S Mctominay and M Greenwood for about £65m so we now have about £320m to spend and probably means we sign ; D Costa(55m), KMJ(50m), R Lavia (35m), M Mount(55m),
R Hojlund(40m), H Kane (90m)
Scenario C - The least likely takeover option but it could still happen SJ and Qatar takeover the club within 2 weeks, Clear the debt in July and instruct a complete clear out all of the above from the two above lists plus AWB, A Martial and J Sancho and Spend £400m on the following ; D Costa (50m),
J Frimpong(30m), KMJ (50m), M Caciedo (75m), M Veratti(25m), M Mount(50m), V Osimhen(120m), Neymar (Loan)
They will pay less on some deals because the Qataris will pay some of them in one instalment not over 4 or 5 years.
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Definitely need two midfielders
Like that window
I'm not convinced that pursisting with Dalot & AWB is the way to go. Anyway, this summer needs to be another big spend to fill the remaining gaps.
Considering Casemiro is 31, Fred 30, Bruno 28, Eriksen 31, then I'd go for someone with more longevity than a 30 year old Verratti or else we'll have a huge problem when they all retire/become crap at the same time.
Mount on the other hand fits the age-profile well, he's 24.
Looks defensively sound and has that portuguese swagger about him, maybe we could poach him?
Hojund, mount, Kim, Costa and maybe rabiot and that’s a decent window. If we sign hojund and spurs manage to keep Kane then we sign him for free next year and have 2 quality strikers.
Think the time for this one as gone. I remember him at Benfica and he was quality but he’s 35 now and not what we need.
Well two CBs and a GK that can comand his 5 yard box.
CBs purley because:
Maguire is not good enough
Lindelof is one of the worst CBs in our history
Varane is injury prone
Martinez despite his qualities is short and we will ship in a few next season if he doesnt have a tall/relaible partner beside him
Rice would do us good and Kane or somebody who is a proven CF it makes no difference to me
CBs purley because:
Maguire is not good enough
Lindelof is one of the worst CBs in our history
Varane is injury prone
Martinez despite his qualities is short and we will ship in a few next season if he doesnt have a tall/relaible partner beside him
Rice would do us good and Kane or somebody who is a proven CF it makes no difference to me
Don’t think we have the funds to meet the asking price of Kane from Levy. Plus Real is in search for a striker too. So,
CF - Hojlund (50m)
CM - Mount(50m)
CB - Kim(50m)
CM - Rabiot (free)
GK - Costa(50m)
Suppose we only have around 120m net budget to spend this summer, we will need to offload a few to raise the funds:
Maguire (30m minus 10m wage = 20m)
Mctominay (25m)
Henderson (20m)
VDB (15m)
Telles (5m)
Bailly (5m)
CF - Hojlund (50m)
CM - Mount(50m)
CB - Kim(50m)
CM - Rabiot (free)
GK - Costa(50m)
Suppose we only have around 120m net budget to spend this summer, we will need to offload a few to raise the funds:
Maguire (30m minus 10m wage = 20m)
Mctominay (25m)
Henderson (20m)
VDB (15m)
Telles (5m)
Bailly (5m)
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It’s already been said that we have put RB on the long finger, it won’t be done this summer
I'm amazed it's taken so long for someone to make this "link"
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Think those valuations are pretty good apart from maybe Costa who would be nearer £65m
Ramos - 80m
Mount - 69m
Kim - 45m
Raya - 30m
Rabiot - free
Ramos
Rashford Bruno Antony
Mount Casemiro
Shaw Martinez Kim Awb
Raya
Mount - 69m
Kim - 45m
Raya - 30m
Rabiot - free
Ramos
Rashford Bruno Antony
Mount Casemiro
Shaw Martinez Kim Awb
Raya
Too much spent on Mount and don't rate Ramos
Yeah fair point. Wow Fred is 30 some reason thought he was younger
We’ll get more for Maguire
he’s 30
Does not matter if Chelsea want £80m for Mount with 12 months on his contract well got £40m for an England international
That would be a great window.. Add Frimpong potentially not convinced by Dalot or AwB a personally
Interesting that you have a crystal ball that can tell Maguire’s price with certainty.
I know everyone keeps talking about what we could have done if we had a number 9 but i jsut checked our stats for assists this season. I am not sure if our wingers are assist first type of players.
Rashford and Antony seem to be shoot first by default.
So should we buy a striker are they going to be satisfied with beat your man wide and put a cross in or a cut back for our manin striker?
Just wondering
Rashford and Antony seem to be shoot first by default.
So should we buy a striker are they going to be satisfied with beat your man wide and put a cross in or a cut back for our manin striker?
Just wondering
Currently since I’m guessing Bellingham is out of our reach with Kane and Osi joining that we should do something like this.
It wouldn’t be my preferred list but I think that’s more likely than spending 120 on Osi or 100 mil for Kane.
maybe Greendevort will be back.
| Kim | 51 mil |
| Mount | 40 mil (know way do Chelsea get more than that) |
| Hoiland | 50 mil (give him the year see how he gets on) |
| Rice | 80 mil (no way does he go for 100mil) |
It wouldn’t be my preferred list but I think that’s more likely than spending 120 on Osi or 100 mil for Kane.
maybe Greendevort will be back.
DDG
Bissaka-Kim-Martinez-Shaw
Cas-Rice
Bruno
Antony-Hoiland-Rashford
Bench, GK, Varane, Lindelof, Dalot, Eriksen, Mount, Sancho Garnacho, GreendevortBissaka-Kim-Martinez-Shaw
Cas-Rice
Bruno
Antony-Hoiland-Rashford
From who?
Here’s what I’d aim for. Can see Chelsea wanting too much for Mount and Spurs wasting our time with Kane, but there’s some decent freebies to be had. Shift some deadwood and it can probably be done under budget.
Out:
Maguire - 30m
Elanga - 10m
Bailly - free
Telles - 5m
McTominay - 30m
Henderson - 30m
Greenwood - ?
Williams - 5m
Van De Beek - 10m
Total: 120m
In:
Diogo Costa - 50m
Min Jae - 50m
Caicedo - 70m
Rabiot - Free
Hojlund - 40m
Marcus Thuram - Free
Total: 210m.
-90m net
Out:
Maguire - 30m
Elanga - 10m
Bailly - free
Telles - 5m
McTominay - 30m
Henderson - 30m
Greenwood - ?
Williams - 5m
Van De Beek - 10m
Total: 120m
In:
Diogo Costa - 50m
Min Jae - 50m
Caicedo - 70m
Rabiot - Free
Hojlund - 40m
Marcus Thuram - Free
Total: 210m.
-90m net
Decent shout even though I would not pay 50m for Costa, Caicedo would cost 80m and Höjlund might not be ready to lead our line. I would aim for a cheaper goalie and throw 100m at Levy.
Adding wages into th eargument, majority of free transfer dotn seem right to me. If we were to get Hoijlund, Mount and Jae....we are still spending £130m bare minimum and even then we need a new number 2 keeper at the veyr least, a Casemeiro second option and a second striker. And we still dont know if these deals even happen if advanced
I still think there are some bargains wth great value out there:
GK
Vicario or Yehvann Diouf, both £20m or under, even if DeGea doesnt stay and the contract ends and we spend big on Costa for example....we still need a number two, both are a negative net spend replacing Henderson
CB
Bella Kotchap See figures of £20-25m for him and surprised not huge links with any teams so far, think he massivley improves several top sides in the premiership. If Jae doesnt happen, I would liek us to go for him, top player in the making I feel and comign in as back up here be good breakign him in
CM
I think Lavia at £40m is a big fee for a back u with a years experience and think Mainoo can break through. However seend a Andre and Varela of SOuth America mentioned by a few youtubers and both seem to be around the £15m mark, being further down this summer big priorities, I think these kind of deals make sense....ones we should have done with Caicedo for example
CM
Caqueret Been four players I have really wanted us to sign fromLigue 1 the last coupeo of years, Camavinga has already gone to Madrid. Lukeba is a left sided centre back and I dont think would be a decent fee now so that one doesnt really happen. But Caqueret around £30-40m represents far better value than Mount if CHelsea play hardbal.WOuld sign him over Mount anyway as I think he offers more all over th epitch but the final third and really suits what we need in a midfielder to already replace Eriksen. Why nobody has been in for him is beyond me
CF
We need to sign two strikers, people talkig about Hoijlund as if he is the second striker signing...at £50m? We arent spending that and additional £70-100m on Kane, Omishen or Muani surely? I think there are a few good options...
Thuram Free and probably decent wages even though a few may be after him, pace and power
Ekitike Seems PSG are willing to let him leave after just a season where he has barely had chances. Newcastle were al over him alst season, considering the prices being quoted for strikers, PSG gettign there money back, the talent he has and as a second option for us, could turn into a bargain
Amine Giouri Surprised nobody around Europe went in for him last season where he moved to Rennes, always been a fan. Not see them this season, but he has a 1 in 2 goal record and so much technical ability. Again £30-35m I think represents far more value than some of the names mentioned like Muani for twice the price. Wheter Rennes would entretain is another thing altogether
I think we need 6/7 signings ths summer and even with a fire sale which may well happen, we only manage that making 3/4 signings of this ilk or a couple of free signings.
Sadly for me, by far the least likely is Caqueret as we are in for Mount and barely seen any credible links to him with us, but he would be my ideal signing. Not sayhing he is the best player, but he suits our midfield number needs to a tee for me
I still think there are some bargains wth great value out there:
GK
Vicario or Yehvann Diouf, both £20m or under, even if DeGea doesnt stay and the contract ends and we spend big on Costa for example....we still need a number two, both are a negative net spend replacing Henderson
CB
Bella Kotchap See figures of £20-25m for him and surprised not huge links with any teams so far, think he massivley improves several top sides in the premiership. If Jae doesnt happen, I would liek us to go for him, top player in the making I feel and comign in as back up here be good breakign him in
CM
I think Lavia at £40m is a big fee for a back u with a years experience and think Mainoo can break through. However seend a Andre and Varela of SOuth America mentioned by a few youtubers and both seem to be around the £15m mark, being further down this summer big priorities, I think these kind of deals make sense....ones we should have done with Caicedo for example
CM
Caqueret Been four players I have really wanted us to sign fromLigue 1 the last coupeo of years, Camavinga has already gone to Madrid. Lukeba is a left sided centre back and I dont think would be a decent fee now so that one doesnt really happen. But Caqueret around £30-40m represents far better value than Mount if CHelsea play hardbal.WOuld sign him over Mount anyway as I think he offers more all over th epitch but the final third and really suits what we need in a midfielder to already replace Eriksen. Why nobody has been in for him is beyond me
CF
We need to sign two strikers, people talkig about Hoijlund as if he is the second striker signing...at £50m? We arent spending that and additional £70-100m on Kane, Omishen or Muani surely? I think there are a few good options...
Thuram Free and probably decent wages even though a few may be after him, pace and power
Ekitike Seems PSG are willing to let him leave after just a season where he has barely had chances. Newcastle were al over him alst season, considering the prices being quoted for strikers, PSG gettign there money back, the talent he has and as a second option for us, could turn into a bargain
Amine Giouri Surprised nobody around Europe went in for him last season where he moved to Rennes, always been a fan. Not see them this season, but he has a 1 in 2 goal record and so much technical ability. Again £30-35m I think represents far more value than some of the names mentioned like Muani for twice the price. Wheter Rennes would entretain is another thing altogether
I think we need 6/7 signings ths summer and even with a fire sale which may well happen, we only manage that making 3/4 signings of this ilk or a couple of free signings.
Sadly for me, by far the least likely is Caqueret as we are in for Mount and barely seen any credible links to him with us, but he would be my ideal signing. Not sayhing he is the best player, but he suits our midfield number needs to a tee for me
There always one that has to be sarcastic, my point was asking for £40m for Maguire is as ridiculous as asking £80m for M Mount with 12 months left on his contract Harry has 2+1 left on his so yes we as a club can ask for £40m for Englands starting CB who has nearly 3 leats left on his contract, doesn’t mean we’ll get it but I doubt Chelsea will get £80m for Mount either !
Rumours that Messi has offers from two PL teams - how have are "wonderful, always truthful" newspapers not linked us with him yet? 
In a dream scenario something like this
Get rid of
Telles
Bailly
Maguire
Martial
Van De Beek
Henderson
Elanga
maybe Fred / McTominay (doubt we get rid of both in one window)
Get in:
Costa / Verbruggen (and keep De Gea for a season as keeper is bedded in?)
Kim Min-jae
Xavi Simmons / Maddison (the latter is cheaper and pl proven)
Caicedo
Rabiot (free agent)
Kane
Højlund
Squad for next season:
GK: Costa / Vrebruggen + De Gea
DR: AWB + Dalot
DL: Luke Shaw + Malacia
DC: Varane + Kim + Martinez + Lindelof
CM: Casemiro + Eriksen + Bruno + Xavi Simmons / Maddison + Caicedo + Rabiot
MR: Antony + Sancho (Diallo/ Pellistri)
ML: Rashford + Garnacho (Diallo / Pellistri)
ST: Kane + Højlund
Maybe keep Mejbri for depth or loan? Not sure, if we could sell with buy back clause might be smart
or something, time to turn off my Fifa
Get rid of
Telles
Bailly
Maguire
Martial
Van De Beek
Henderson
Elanga
maybe Fred / McTominay (doubt we get rid of both in one window)
Get in:
Costa / Verbruggen (and keep De Gea for a season as keeper is bedded in?)
Kim Min-jae
Xavi Simmons / Maddison (the latter is cheaper and pl proven)
Caicedo
Rabiot (free agent)
Kane
Højlund
Squad for next season:
GK: Costa / Vrebruggen + De Gea
DR: AWB + Dalot
DL: Luke Shaw + Malacia
DC: Varane + Kim + Martinez + Lindelof
CM: Casemiro + Eriksen + Bruno + Xavi Simmons / Maddison + Caicedo + Rabiot
MR: Antony + Sancho (Diallo/ Pellistri)
ML: Rashford + Garnacho (Diallo / Pellistri)
ST: Kane + Højlund
Maybe keep Mejbri for depth or loan? Not sure, if we could sell with buy back clause might be smart
or something, time to turn off my Fifa
Pick 4 of them is my advice?
Ideal window for me with no new owners:
Mount
Raviot
Hojlund
Costa
KMJ
(will need lots of outs to fund, Maguire/Martial/Henderson/Fred/Mctominay/Elanga/Bailly etc).
With new owners flush with cash:
Mount
Caicedo
Ramos
Hojlund
Costa
KMJ
Mount
Raviot
Hojlund
Costa
KMJ
(will need lots of outs to fund, Maguire/Martial/Henderson/Fred/Mctominay/Elanga/Bailly etc).
With new owners flush with cash:
Mount
Caicedo
Ramos
Hojlund
Costa
KMJ
Feel like top one is too much pressure on Hojlund to lead line,feel we need to bring in experienced option as well. I still fear we may go cheapo on the GK as well
I agree, but without new owners I can’t see us getting a Kane/Osimhen or Ramos unfortunately.
You can’t register that squad 7 homegrown players at most, you must have 8 and that’s if we buy Maddison over Xavi Simmons
Like PSG will do business with Man United after SJR wins the bid !