Ive thought that for years watching Sweden
What do people see in Lindelof?
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Atrocious is a massive massive stretch. He was good. he usually is good, he’s just not fantastic.
No way,
Danielsson was crap and gifted morata the big chance.
He was pretty good tbf but our setup with 11 defenders helps vic. I am on the replace Vic train but wrong game to give him shit
Only the man of the match
Tells you what a joke that is. It was clearly their GK, but ok, give it to the bigger name
Man of the match today, great game.
Only in the opinion of football experts, random trolls on the Caf say he is garbage so who are you going to believe?
This is our place of worship - we will always believe the drunk, crazy caf mob. Shame on anyone else that doesn’t.
Lindelof was shit, don’t you agree?
Undoubtedly, legions of thirty somethings are telling me so from their parents basements.
That was partly true when Sweden played Granqvist who was captain and very good, albeit slow. The new guy Danielsson is Sweden's Lindelöf, and Lindelöf is Maguire.
Exactly
Linde is a great player, good vision, technique and composure. He only lacks physical attributes to be elite level CB.
Calling him garbage is mental, he can easily get in the squads of most top teams in Europe.
Calling him garbage is mental, he can easily get in the squads of most top teams in Europe.
Yep. That's how it is. He is not the main guy, regardless of who he is playing with. Although he is decent in this Sweden, then again he played with a guy who plays in China, an elderly Lustig, and so on. The organization is key. It says nothing about him as an individual. He did well though.
That’s the guy I’m thinking off
The Iceman did his thing.
I didn't watch the game and I'd never heard of Danielson until I saw the below tweet. Seems like he was the proactive defender if the below tweet is anything to by.
"Atrocious and passive".
Says it all.
it really doesn't say it all, because i'm not criticising Lindelof but rather showing that there are people who valued Danielson's performance quite highly.
He looks embarrassed to have been given that.
Only noticed he was on the pitch when he was attempting long throws. Olsen, Danielsson and Isak were all pretty clearly better. Sweden fecked themselves by taking Isak off especially, never had an out ball after that.
Yes, Lindelof is the passive defender regardless of who he plays with, which the statics says too. Danielsson is better in the air, has as many goals as Lindelof despite playing around 40 games less. Lindelof was good today, but regardless of who plays, it's pretty much the same. Sweden is well-organized and Lindelof is the more passive defender. It's just who he is.
If number of clearances is the new measure of proactiveness, then yes, Danielsson was more proactive. He had 10 clearances and Lindelof only 9.
My intention wasn't to criticise Lindelof but rather to point out that there's many people who watched the game that had Danielsson as their MOTM. The below is a tweet from one of many Swedes online who had Danielsson as their MVP who is considered the more proactive defender.
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Being a “passive” defender (not entirely sure what that means but assuming something along the lines of someone who doesn’t attack the ball but instead holds back) isn’t necessarily a bad thing. In the same way Ferdinand would be classified as “passive” compared to Vidic.
The Karate kid references were in full flow on Twitter earlier.
I’m not surprised. I don’t do Twitter, but the commentator was very much pronouncing it Daniel Son… so I’m not surprised.
Why shoehorn him into the side playing out of position and in formations Solskjaer seldom uses at that if you don't believe he's good enough to help take us back to the top?
The fact that people only recognize a throw in versus his reading of the game, marshaling his backline, positioning, and trying to play out from the back whilst his teammates continued to punt the ball to the halfway line shows who is watching and observing.
The funny part is its been like 3 different CBs now
Keeper has 14 shots against him and team doesnt score. I think he might have done very well
This feels like the mctominay threads where everyone loses their mind going back and forth (including me) but the answer is that mctominay should be our backup 6 and 8 (our Ambrosini as I’ve said before) and Lindelof a fine 3rd CB backing up Maguire and the other starting CB we need.
I hate hearing all this “passive” nonsense.
Reminds me of a Maldini quote - if you have to make a tackle then it means you’ve made a mistake.
Reminds me of a Maldini quote - if you have to make a tackle then it means you’ve made a mistake.
Clean sheet against a team with 80 percent possession.
United CB gets clean sheet vs Spain despite possession of only 14.9%.
Same United CB picked as MotM.
United fan forum:
Talk about toxic fan base.
Same United CB picked as MotM.
United fan forum:
Talk about toxic fan base.
Yeah, and the lad who was next to him who plays for Dalian Yifang can say the same. Let's sign him up.
I'm currently watching the re-run of the game and the lad from Dalian looks brilliant in a low block.
Lindelöf is a top defender. He has really grown and developed now. Him and Maguire got a good partnership.
It is not easy to uppgrade.
It is not easy to uppgrade.
Aside from anything else, the idea that every tackle is a mistake ignores the fact that you might have to cover for someone else's errors at some point.
It's referencing a good principle for defending (i.e. good positioning > tackling your way out of bad positioning) but it's pretty funny when people take it to literally mean tackles are in themselves a symptom of bad defending.