What decisions has Ten Hag got right since joining?

I mean, if he'd watched any videos of De Gea at any point in the last 5 years he'd have seen he's prone to the odd howler and can't play out from the back. Not only is today not an outlier, it's just totally expected.
So he should have bought a new goalkeeper as well when he needed about 8 signings in other areas? The club can’t even get his number one priority position. The club has sent him out with virtually the same team that was a shambles last season. Henderson is not better.

We need surgery everywhere. Many more areas than GK
 
Targeting players he knows.

The biggest issue with our players is their piss poor attitudes and personalities. So if he's worked with players he can trust it makes sense to bring them in.
 
A lot of people saying you can't blame ETH because the players are shite when he's the one coming out with stuff like "developing what you have" and "they finished second so they're not that bad".
Realistically he has to say that.

You can't say the whole lot are absolute shite. You have a budget, you have a remit that's coming down from the hierarchy, you have to work within it. There is no option to sell 12 players and buy another 12.
 
There are a couple of encouraging signs that he's learning quick like dropping McT for this game or hooking off Martinez and Shaw after first half.

But I wouldn't hold my breath though. He was already in a shit situation with this club and added to it with his own stupid decisions.
Quoting my post from the other thread to inject some positivity ? He's atleast learning quickly I would say.
 
A lot of people saying you can't blame ETH because the players are shite when he's the one coming out with stuff like "developing what you have" and "they finished second so they're not that bad".
Manager that doesn't say that isn't a manager of the club. You don't get to work with something else than what you've got. So what people mean is that discussing the manager is irrelevant to the equation. Or if you'd like you can continue to go in circles once again to play the blame game
 
If we as a fanbase seriously turn on him now, we are just as clueless as the people running our club. They also seem to think that changing the manager will sort the real problems.
 
So he should have bought a new goalkeeper as well when he needed about 8 signings in other areas? The club can’t even get his number one priority position. The club has sent him out with virtually the same team that was a shambles last season. Henderson is not better.

We need surgery everywhere. Many more areas than GK

I think De Gea makes playing with a high line impossible, especially when you have centre halves as slow as ours. If that is essential to your system then GK is a priority position. Pep realised Hart wasn't up to it and binned him off, we not only weren't that ruthless, but solidified the position of a clearly ill suited keeper by shipping a better player out on loan.
 
Targeting players he knows.

The biggest issue with our players is their piss poor attitudes and personalities. So if he's worked with players he can trust it makes sense to bring them in.
Rabiot and a racist model attitude and personality to fix this squad, says everything about the club.
 
Cumulative Wumming
Staying bald, speaking with an accent, not sitting on the bench, looking at Frankie De Jong, and trying to play from the back (however this can also be seen as something he did wrong, as he needs more technical players on the pitch for that)
 
This is the guy most people on here wanted as manager now he's getting written off after 2 games. Its madness. It's clearly the spineless, inept players that he has at his disposal. The players he's brought in in my opinion have done OK. The players he inherited are terrible. He's clearly not been backed by the useless board to overhaul the squad. This isn't a quick fix unfortunately but I'm still 100% backing Ten Hag to get it right and turn us around.
 
Looks like he’s doing the same dance other managers have done. Give everyone a chance before making decisions. Which is basically too fecking slow for what we need. You don’t need to see another 10 games of De Gea, Maguire, Fred, Mctominay or Shaw to know they have massive holes in their games.
 
Very little. It was worrying when he didn't immediately get rid of the likes of DDG, Dalot, Ronaldo when he asked to leave. In fact Andreas Pierra is the only player we have sold this summer.

That right there is why we are in a relegation scrap. We have been in relegation form since February.
Clubs need to bid for these players, for UTD to get rid!
 
Quoting my post from the other thread to inject some positivity ? He's atleast learning quickly I would say.

I do think it's a worry, however, when one of your positives is subbing his £60m signing at half time in his second game!

Martinez is a real issue, if ten Hag has already lost faith in him in the league I don't really know where we can go.
 
What would you rather he said? He’s said clearly we ‘need’ to improve the squad during press conferences. There’s nothing to be gained in criticising your existing players publicly as a new manager.
There's nothing to indicate the club is going through a complete rebuild though.

The actions of the club (and the words of Erik) all point towards ETH being hired to work with the current group plus a few additions. You can rightly criticize the club for that direction but imo the manager who accepts being hired under such conditions also deserves it. He should have made one of his demands that the club will go through a complete and utter rebuild ala what Ralf said rather than a few additions to the current group.
 
Some of ye, Jesus feckin Christ. We all wanted this man. Stand by him, we have a terrible team. I’ll judge him come Christmas when he hopefully has a few more new players to work with
 
So he should have bought a new goalkeeper as well when he needed about 8 signings in other areas? The club can’t even get his number one priority position. The club has sent him out with virtually the same team that was a shambles last season. Henderson is not better.

We need surgery everywhere. Many more areas than GK

With respect to GK, I'd have kept Henderson over DDG particularly given how he wants to play. But I am sure there's issues with that. Not easy to bench such a high earner and not easy to sell him either. That's where a strong/proper club discusses with the manager and has a plan in place for the squad turnover.
 
A lot of people saying you can't blame ETH because the players are shite when he's the one coming out with stuff like "developing what you have" and "they finished second so they're not that bad".

What else can be say? Can you not see how bereft of confidence that are?

I'm sure in private he's saying something very different to Arnold and the Glazers.
 
Ultimately, pretty much every player in that squad is either not good enough to play for Man Utd or doesn't have the right attitude to play for Man Utd. I think he's right not to sell everyone at once like a lot of people have been calling for though - we wouldn't be able to put a team out!
 
I do think it's a worry, however, when one of your positives is subbing his £60m signing at half time in his second game!

Martinez is a real issue, if ten Hag has already lost faith in him in the league I don't really know where we can go.
Yea agree. I said it already that it's only 2 games and he might as well improve but I don't think Martinez is cut out to play at CB in the Prem. He will get bullied in nearly every game. Even City and Liverpool went out and brought two physical strikers just this season.
 
There is time to half correct it but he wont do it, no balls.
 
Can't think of many actually. Taking Shaw off probably but then again that was only because he insisted on starting the fat feck
 
So it was a mistake of Ten Hag to give them a clean slate and another go? Indeed, to be so utterly dismissive of his predecessor's assessment that the players were shite he refused to even meet with him?

Because, yes, I agree, expecting anything else from this lot is absurd. Which is a big reason why I'm so worried that Ten Hag apparently thought differently.

I'm not sure how he can quickly get rid of 5-6 considering we have already lost 6 members of last year's squad.

He may very think they are not good enough, but he won't be able to replace them in one window. They need to be phased out which sadly will be to our detriment because 80% of this squad is shit.
 
Which manager is honestly going to do much better under these circumstances? Really?
The prior several managers did better, bar Ralf maybe. Let's not pretend ole LVG and mou were getting thrashed every week by mid table teams, they were putting together runs and not hitting relegation form
 
There is time to half correct it but he wont do it, no balls.
Where are you getting this from? Pretty sure this is the last game we will have seen McFred as starters and we’re two games in.
You’ll see Shaw benched after this as well, Sancho is on thin fecking ice.
Maybe we are too used to shit but the deadwood are playing themselves out
 
The prior several managers did better, bar Ralf maybe. Let's not pretend ole LVG and mou were getting thrashed every week by mid table teams, they were putting together runs and not hitting relegation form
He’s two games in!
 
Ultimately, pretty much every player in that squad is either not good enough to play for Man Utd or doesn't have the right attitude to play for Man Utd. I think he's right not to sell everyone at once like a lot of people have been calling for though - we wouldn't be able to put a team out!

This is the reality everyone obsesses over deadwood like Jones or Bailly and celebrates likes of Lingard leaving but the real issues are De Gea, Maguire, Mct, Fred ,Sancho, Rashford and others that start every week.

These are who we need to be shipping out so can reinvest but they’ll be starting most games all season and maybe even beyond (and get new contracts).
 
The prior several managers did better, bar Ralf maybe. Let's not pretend ole LVG and mou were getting thrashed every week by mid table teams, they were putting together runs and not hitting relegation form

A lot has happened since then. These aren’t the same players and there’s a bigger cloud over the club than ever before.
 
Also for the avoidance of doubt, this is not a thread intended to make excuses for the Glazers, Arnold, Woodward, Murtough and whoever else in senior management.

Nor is it an attempt to make excuses for my least favourite collection of United players ever. There's a significant number who need to leave immediately.

What this is is a thread designed to discuss the commonly held belief that Ten Hag is the right man that will succeed if only backed. After all he was appointed by the same shower of shite responsible for the mess we are in, it's hardly an unthinkable assertion that as long with assembling a team full of dross the upper management of this club also appointed someone not capable of managing at this level too, is it?

So all I want is some positive examples of Ten Hag making a decision that we can look at, directly attribute to him and say 'yep, good call, that will make us better' because, frankly. I've been struggling and there's not been many in this thread to date.
 
Where are you getting this from? Pretty sure this is the last game we will have seen McFred as starters and we’re two games in.
You’ll see Shaw benched after this as well, Sancho is on thin fecking ice.
Maybe we are too used to shit but the deadwood are playing themselves out

They have to go and not be benched, they can still stink from the bench just in different ways.
 
I'm not sure how he can quickly get rid of 5-6 considering we have already lost 6 members of last year's squad.

He may very think they are not good enough, but he won't be able to replace them in one window. They need to be phased out which sadly will be to our detriment because 80% of this squad is shit.

Of course, but by all accounts it's his fixation on De Jong that has seen us not move on to other targets (indeed, he publicly said De Jong or nothing). That refusal has seen as rely on this dross because we haven't signed anyone to replace those gaps.
 
Embarrassing excuses after we got beaten by Brentford with Brentfords best player on our team

Excuses? The bulk of this team is done. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Fergie reincarnated isn’t getting a song out of this squad at this point.
 
Oh feck off. Anyone who’s been watching us the last 2 years can see it’s these players that are the problem, not him.

maybe if he had a competent board to back him in the transfer window there wouldn’t be so many of these useless twats on the pitch right now eh?
Agreed the players are pish but by all accounts they have tried to back him. tried for every player he’s wanted and are still chasing his main target. How is he not being backed by the board? We know the issue with getting DeJong in and realistically probably should have moved on by now. Yet it’s the man he wants so we still trying.

He also rejected the targets we had planned for when he came in meaning the summer window was always going to be difficult.

He’s not been innocent, that team choice and his substitutions were awful hence why people probably now doubting he is actually the man many had said he was. Especially with decisions so poor it makes him look like he’s never watched a game of football either.

The players do have a lot to answer for but ETH has a lot to prove.
 
Honestly nothing springs to mind at this point.

It is very early days for him but so far it's been quite shocking