Lots of healthy food can be microwaved, and your're still talking about a minority of the population, the majority of people don't use foodbanks, attitudes and the use of a bit of common sense is what's needed
Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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Because if something can be valued, it can be taxed. Tax the mega-rich (say net worth north of 20M) 1% of their net worth every year until they are no longer mega-rich. Society doesn't have space for these leeches, it's high time we take back what is ours (the fruits of our labour).
So in summary.
He's already managed to annoy the EU.
He's not going to do anything for the NHS until it reforms. To reform it because it is so inefficient, the best way would presumably be to fire everybody and start all over again?
He's released prisoners without proper rehabilitation or probation arrangements.
He did say there would be change, but didn't say it was the small change down the back of granny's sofa.
Other mission's we know won't work
Brexit will never work.
Smashing the gangs (which is not happening) instead of opening safe routes for refugees and asylum seekers and actually processing them.
Creating an energy company that isn't an energy producer.
He's only making plans for Nigel, He has his future in a British steel (or maybe not)
Can't wait for the budget.
And even more far-fetched thinks he's going to get re-elected.
He's already managed to annoy the EU.
He's not going to do anything for the NHS until it reforms. To reform it because it is so inefficient, the best way would presumably be to fire everybody and start all over again?
He's released prisoners without proper rehabilitation or probation arrangements.
He did say there would be change, but didn't say it was the small change down the back of granny's sofa.
Other mission's we know won't work
Brexit will never work.
Smashing the gangs (which is not happening) instead of opening safe routes for refugees and asylum seekers and actually processing them.
Creating an energy company that isn't an energy producer.
He's only making plans for Nigel, He has his future in a British steel (or maybe not)
Can't wait for the budget.
And even more far-fetched thinks he's going to get re-elected.
Well that'd be the end of the PL for sure, and the country would lose a gigantic amount of it's tax income because those people you just targeted will leave
That’s great, tax assets into the ground, to the point they no longer can deliver tax revenue. Brilliant! Maybe we can all eat each other when the moneys run out and solve the overpopulation problem too.
You have called them lazy, not me. That was judgement.
And I don't doubt that there are always certain circumstances why some people are unfit.
But remember please that my initial post was related to a perfectly simple statement that the NHS will never be able to cope with the load if people don't take responsibility for their own health.
Health or being unhealthy is very often a vicious circle.
Poor diet can result in lack of energy.
Lack of energy can result in lack of proper exercise.
Lack of proper exercise can result in poor mobility and increased weight.
And so on.
Yes, the assets will simply stop existing when the million/billionaires leave. Forgot about that.
The end of the PL as we know it now anyway, that is a good point but are we not against the enormously inflated wages and fees being thrown around now?
This is mental
Stripe owners would be fecked. Owe 1% of about 50 billion, but can’t actually sell their assets to pay the tax because it isn’t public. (And contractually illegal)
All this does is funnel all the enterprise to big conglomerates who can afford to write off their tax debt.
You said tax them til they were no longer rich, which implies draining them until the point it is no longer taxable.
I’m not sure if you’ve checked, but the worlds wealthiest companies main portfolio of assets isn’t physical, but digital.
Imagine the British government trying to asset seize google maps because google didn’t Sergei brin didn’t pay 1% of his net worth in taxes
Tax the conglomerates as well?
The idea is that they have to sell their assets that they've scammed us out of for generations but especially since 2008.
Stripe employees would be screwed too, the ones with shares given as a reward for their investment of time and skill into the company.
To be fair I'd happily support taxing Liverpool FC into oblivion.
The entire UK options and derivatives market would be fecked because people would holding onto derivatives worth millions when their portfolio is only couple k
Do you know how mental you sound?
If people have to pay tax they need to liquidate assets, which means you need someone on the other side to pay to buy the asset.
If you’re taxing everyone to death then nobody is paying any taxes because they cannot actually liquidate because there’s no buyer on the other side.
I’d love to have whatever you’re on
Of course we are, but that is not something the PL can tackle, cap the wages and the best players will go elsewhere, and when the players go so does the TV money and sponsorship deals, and remember, before the PL United were generally shite, can you imagine the CAF in that scenario!
I’m intrigued to hear your alternative plan for putting people into full prisons without having to release those already there…
Conveniently ignoring the fact that Sunak was pretty much begged to do the same thing by his own Party months before the election and refused to do so. Many even go so far to suggest this is why he chose the early election, so he could fob of the horrifically damaging image of TORIES releasing prisoners early.
Yes, bringing down the price of important assets, such as housing and other properties.
I'm no fan of Sunak or the Tories.
Of course Sunak called the election for many reasons before the proverbial **** hit the fan. Not just on prisons.
Shouldn't the authorities in charge of released prisoners be prepared first?
Question is what happens when the next group of convicted people are imprisoned.
The vast vast majority of the held assets are not in housing and properties but in equities
And by taxing the mega rich (again, those with net worths of 20M+) will help get valuable assets back into the hands of the working class.
What kind of "tax expert"?
Edit: Perhaps you should take a look at the top rates of tax since WW2.
Tax lawyer. He's written at length about this stuff and cites a couple of specific reasons on the twitter thread I posted. His point is, lots of wealth taxes have been tried, they have invariably failed and been abolished. He suggests there are better alternatives.
I'll look into him but I fail to see how one tax lawyer of millions is going to have the 1 true answer.
I don't expect him to have the one true answer. I just expect him to have a better answer than yours.
I hate how it looks likely that we’ll be getting American style healthcare.
What alternatives are there?
But if his answer is wrong then, whilst it's undoubtedly better researched, it's no better than mine. There are plenty of experts out there that argue for wealth taxes as well by the way.
If I introduced something that had a material impact on commercials at my job without running any analysis I’d be fired on the spot.
This isn’t a criticism of current government, im sure the previous government did it too but how can this be allowed to happen ?
Please excuse my ignorance of how things actually work (I genuinely don’t know what checks and balances there are) but surely you can’t just say “right we’ll do that” without working out beforehand what will happen? Or do they just do “the thick of it”?
Incredible really and just goes to show how this is Labour making a rushed political choice. They thought by doing something extremely unpopular and blaming the Tories for it somehow it would turn out to be a massive win for them.
The budget will be full of policy aimed purely at kicking the Tories record rather than trying to do what's best for the country. It worked for the Tories but the difference is their enacted policy was exactly what people expected of them.
There's now actually no money left for fixing these kinds of feck ups though, not unless you disregard the arbitrary fiscal rules that have been put in place and actually focus on productivity and raising revenue. So it really doesn't need many big mistakes like this and they are double fecked.
I did read it but we're talking about 5.4 million rental homes not in the single digits. In practice it cannot work for the wider market for reasons aforementioned.
Yes, tenants have it so easy, they'll only be homeless if they miss a payment or 2
Not in the real word, it would be months before they could even be rendered homeless. Meanwhile the landlord has to pay the mortgage every month or risk getting into arrears and screwing up their credit score among other things.
If you have to make a budget 3 months after taking office, and are following the last 14yrs, how would you want it to be presented?
"Here are a bunch of unpopular, hard-hitting policies that we're implementing because we have no money, but we can't really talk about why."
Is that about right?
Damnit Labour!
“Yool never guess oo I ad in the back of me cab once”
‘Do go on’
“That Leesa Nandy. It was lockdown too”
‘So you were out, and she was out?’
“Yeah but it’s the principle en it? Lockdown means lockdown. I’m an essential worker. She was just an MP”
‘You dropped her off at a party, didn’t you? Do spill’
“Nah, political offices. But it’s the principle en it? And she was drunk”
‘Never! Do you know the exact rules and restrictions on the day in question?’
“Naaaah. It’s the principle en it? Lockdown means lockdown. And lemme tell you somefing, she was not locked down. Tried to pay with the wrong card”
‘Thank you good sir. Without checking anything further, I will shout loudly on Xittter’
“Nice won. It’s the principle en it”
The woman is a Fcuking ghoul.
Really need someone to list all of the disasters that Labour are having to find money for.
Grenfell, WASPI women, Post office scandal, concrete buildings, water, backdated public sector pay, asylum backlog etc etc etc
Grenfell, WASPI women, Post office scandal, concrete buildings, water, backdated public sector pay, asylum backlog etc etc etc