Did you do the honourable thing and stay out of it?
I stopped talking when it got into technical stuff...about a minute in.
We're trialling a new newbie system
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I stopped talking when it got into technical stuff...about a minute in.
Pile that big, dont blame him.
im all for this. been on this site 4 years now but gave up posting and trying to get promoted for 3 years. This system seems much more reasonable
Speaking as a recent promotion, I'd probably agree a few more posts in the mains would be welcome early.
That being said, there had to be a number picked and at least you get a chance to post in the mains much earlier in the process. I'd imagine this would help really good newbies to noticed early on too.
A significant step on I think as there's no doubt promotion felt something of a slog. Only one worry, do we not think this may cause even less contribution to the newbie forum? I.e. If a good point is to he made then they'll want to make it in the mains.
That being said, there had to be a number picked and at least you get a chance to post in the mains much earlier in the process. I'd imagine this would help really good newbies to noticed early on too.
A significant step on I think as there's no doubt promotion felt something of a slog. Only one worry, do we not think this may cause even less contribution to the newbie forum? I.e. If a good point is to he made then they'll want to make it in the mains.
Flipside is we've gradually built up enough Liga watchers now to have reasonable coverage of Spanish football. Same with German football. It would be great to have the same kind of mini-communities build up around other topics.
Obviously no one wants that to come at the expense of ruining the United forum or the overall feel of the place which is why we've got to keep some kind of quality control in place.
When got promoted in mid 2013 there was poster that went up at the same time who'd been in the Newbie forum 9 years.
The caf has Damobot. You guys should have been given the day off while he came up with the perfect system.
I thought I was bad with five..I imagine the first like for a newbie would be stringent. If so, it would make sense to increase post limit based on the likes. If it is to also encourage activity in newbie forums as well, then fair enough.
edit:On second thoughts, there could be a lot of newbies posting. So that's something to ponder.
edit:On second thoughts, there could be a lot of newbies posting. So that's something to ponder.
Yeah, that may happen. Again, hopefully the trial will help determine if that needs tweaking.
That's a good point.
No thanks.
Holy crap! Fair play for persistence though!
Good to see that you folks are trying hard to improve on this.
I thought last year was terrible in terms of quality newbies promoted, it seems like pretty much everyone who posted regulary in newbies was promoted even if that poster was posting shite most of the time, I thought you lot were just lazy and didn't care anymore about that.
I thought last year was terrible in terms of quality newbies promoted, it seems like pretty much everyone who posted regulary in newbies was promoted even if that poster was posting shite most of the time, I thought you lot were just lazy and didn't care anymore about that.
Finally I have become a kingmaker. I will try my best not to get drunk on power.
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It would be a bit annoying to have 8 or 9 likes with no access to any general forum, but I guess they most likely won't be stuck on that for long.
Not understanding why at 8 likes the right to post in the newbies is removed. Is it to get them used to posting in the mains?
That's a good idea, I've always thought people would just stop posting as opposed to doing their best to try and get 10 likes.
Ease their way up and it makes them want more and more each time (if they like posting in the mains) which in turn keeps them active in the newbs as opposed to just leaving the site.
Ease their way up and it makes them want more and more each time (if they like posting in the mains) which in turn keeps them active in the newbs as opposed to just leaving the site.
5 posts surely limits discussion. What if they post something and somebody replies, they then have to wait a day?
Could there not be a system where if they are quoted they have additional right of reply to whoever quoted them?
Could there not be a system where if they are quoted they have additional right of reply to whoever quoted them?
Sounds like a very well thought-out system Niall. It's great to see the caf being proactive in encouraging newbies to integrate themselves more into the community and it's culture.
What's the reaction in the Newbs to this?
Maybe, for now we're gonna see how this works.
This seems like a good move provided it doesn't create too much work for the modmins
Should be a one in, one out system. Each week the worst main's poster battles the best newbie for full member status.
Only took about a month and a half of active posting to get here, these neos are feeble.
Is it possible to limit posting to 5 threads per day rather than simply 5 posts per day? That removes the problem of getting caught out replying to people in a single thread.
They have created a golden calf with the face of Niall.
They seem very happy that having been asked their opinions recently, changes are being tried out.Good plan.
I don't see what the problem was, the rules were explained well, and I would put a bit of thought and time into my posts within the newbs and I was promoted quite quickly and the newbies really do test your patience most of them were trolls and idiots and the system encouraged me to post proper to get the hell out! I thought the original system was good because of this!
Well, I think it works for some people, but not for others. The survey which Niall ran recently showed that large numbers of people join up and never post. That's many potentially good posters lost to the forum, in effect.
Nice, I like it. I had no trouble with getting out the newbie section, but it does take some posting indeed. Maybe this will increase the ranks with quality posters.
From someone who never posts on the Man Utd forum I think it will be a good incentive for Newbies, after all it is what they signed up for at the time. I'd wonder how much of a taste they'll be able to enjoy with how fast your threads move on here but it has to be an improvement and looking for change is sometimes best done with small steps!
I found the old system alright to be honest, it really didn't take alot to get promoted. Think i had 100 posts and i knew pretty much every time i wrote a proper detailed post it had a good chance of getting a like. But this new system sounds good too. Its down to the poster to want to get mains access and to prove they can post properly so im not sure how much of a massive difference it will make but hope it does!
As expected.
That's good. Newbies are happy, modmins are happy. Let's see how it all goes.
Believe me, the least you can say about the people is that they are lazy. Scouting is a very time consuming process. When I did for about two months it ate up all my (limited) time on here to the point where I basically did not post anymore and had to ultimatively step down again.
I welcome that change, because I personally see only upsides in it. It brings new blood and potentially even more diversity in the mains, makes the transfer smoother and helps newbies get used to the mains. It also lifts some load off of the scouts. Now the newbies get the chance to "present" themselves and can show if they fit in or not. The whole promotion system is not about finding the tactical geniuses or eloquent poets. Its about if the new guys can behave themselves and carry a discussion. Thats all there is to it.
I was going to say exactly the same thing. It really would be a pain if they got stuck in a really interesting debate and then couldn't reply. Aside from that, I think it's an excellent idea. Great work clever mods and admins and @brewlio.