Merman
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Overtook Lara as the top scorer
sehwag is better.
sehwag is better.
He's got nothing on Bradman.
No one will ever be as good as Bradman or come close to his average.He's got nothing on Bradman.
No one will ever be as good as Bradman or come close to his average.
Also I kinda agree with PSmith. You can not compare modern day crickets to those from that era.
I actually agree with you about Richards being the best.
But then again he played in probably the best team of all time and was never under any kind of pressure Sachin has been since the beginning of his career.
Vivan Richards, the greatest ever..
Greatest batsmen ever in this order
Richards
Bradman
Sobers
Lara
Gavaskar
Crowe
Tendulkar finds a place in the six spot or may be 5th for his sheer apetitie for runs.
Great player. Richards is the best ever for me though. Sachin's just something else though. He's been someone I've hated and loved with equal intensity for the last 16 years of my cricket watching time.
I dispute this. I think Richards is the best batsmen, ever. Bradman only toured a couple of countries and never faced the same quality of bowling. Bodyline was his toughest test, and I think he averaged he around 52. That said, it's almost futile to compare eras, but I haven;t seen a better batsman than Richards, put it that way. As for batsmen thesedays, I think they've got it easy. Most pitches around the world are flat and the quality of fast bowlers has dropped. But congrats to Sachin. Great player.
Oh yes he has. Bradman played Cricket when there were less than 100 people playing it world wide.
And I don't think any sportsman has ever had to deal with the amount of pressure, adulation and attention Tendulkar gets.
It's proportionate.
Back in those days he used to train by himself, with a stump and a ball, hitting it against a water tank.
Back then 120 might have been the fastest anyone's bowled, but it was still the fastest. Nowdays batsmen are used to 150, and are able to accomodate with all their fancy gear etc.
Bradman is, and will always be, the best player ever.
Did you see Richards's 180-something not out in a one day international against England at Old Trafford in the 1980's? I don't remember the year. Windies were batting first and struggling with several wickets down cheaply, then Viv took over and murdered the England attack. I've never seen anything like it before or since.
Anyway, congratulations to Tendulkar - one of the great batsmen.
Best bowlers of Richard's ear were in his team and he never faced them in an international match. That IMO does count against him. Sachin and Lara on the other hand faced the likes of McGrath, Warne, Murali, Waqar and Akram.
The point is he clearly had an absolutely phenominal eye, a wide range of shots, technical, cool head etc etc.
As if it wouldn't be adaptable, especially when you consider the WHOLE range of cricket's improved from the ground (grass-roots) up. He'd have been exposed to the quicker bowlers earlier, and thus been able to adjust.
some people claim that WG Grace is the best batsman, ever. But he's clearly not. You can't really say that he'd(Bradman) be able to step it up against bowlers that bowl 150kmph+(Bodyline was the nearest he got to aggressive fast bowling). It doesn't work like that.
I'm sure Larwood could bowl a bit mate. I'm also not convinced that the other bowlers of that era were any less quick or aggressive than the ones in the 80s.
You're also being very selective in suggesting that his bodyline performances were an indication that he'd have been less dominant in different circumstances. To begin with there's never been any other comparable scenario in which batsmen had to contend with 8 bouncers during every over as the laws were ammended as a direct result of that series. Furthermore, even if we disregard the fact that he still managed to average a staggering 50 odd, the fact that he averaged 30 odd more than the next best Australian suggests that Bradman, as ever, was miles ahead of the pack.
As for protection. Richards never wore a helmet or extra padding but he had an amazing eye and brilliant reflexes. That's not something you can teach, he was as natural as they came. Something that players from Australia and England aren't thesedays. Most of the current crop have been heavily coached since childhood. It all looks a bit mechanical.You mentioned Sobers, and to me he was as good as Richards and also never wore protection. He always hooked bouncers - never ducked. Both were similar in style, and the ability to get after any bowler. Richards had more power and Sobers had more variety. His favourite seemed to be the leg flick along the ground for four.
As for protection. Richards never wore a helmet or extra padding but he had an amazing eye and brilliant reflexes. That's not something you can teach, he was as natural as they came. Something that players from Australia and England aren't thesedays. Most of the current crop have been heavily coached since childhood. It all looks a bit mechanical.You mentioned Sobers, and to me he was as good as Richards and also never wore protection. He always hooked bouncers - never ducked. Both were similar in style, and the ability to get after any bowler. Richards had more power and Sobers had more variety. His favourite seemed to be the leg flick along the ground for four.
The hardest striker ever was Greendige. He can tonk the ball harder on Richards, be it in cover drives, square cuts or pull shots. Ian Chappel once said Aussies players were always reluctant stand in the cover and point position for Greenidge for the fear of getting hurt.