We need to steal Chelsea's biggest star

yeah we should definitely follow Chelsea's business practices..
 
That bloke they spent 105m on cause he had a good world cup? Just before Liverpool got McAllister for 35m :lol:

No I'm talking about the player who's played the most games for them, scored the most goals, got the most assists and created the most chances for the last 3 years.
Given the only other players that were here for his entire time were either ageing, had injury issues or both it would be pretty embarrassing if he wasn't top of those stats.

He was a very good player for us in his first two and a half years but best player is a massive stretch when you had Reece James, Kante and Thiago Silva.
 
Seriously, who is in charge for transfers there? No way it is Boehly.
Was him last summer, he's been in a glorified cheerleader in the last two.

I've been telling people that for months.
 
Given the only other players that were here for his entire time were either ageing, had injury issues or both it would be pretty embarrassing if he wasn't top of those stats.

He was a very good player for us in his first two and a half years but best player is a massive stretch when you have Reece James and Thiago Silva.

He's up there. I'd agree Reece James is ultimately a better player in his position but it depends how much weight you put on being reliably available.
 
Given the only other players that were here for his entire time were either ageing, had injury issues or both it would be pretty embarrassing if he wasn't top of those stats.

He was a very good player for us in his first two and a half years but best player is a massive stretch when you have Reece James and Thiago Silva.

Mount was definitely the best performer over those 3 years, on that basis he has been the best player over the last 3 years. There have been more talented players in the team of course but Mount has been by far the most reliable in terms of fitness and performances.
 
Give another year or two out of the CL and Enzo will leave. We should start laying the groundwork for that.
 
He's up there. I'd agree Reece James is ultimately a better player in his position but it depends how much weight you put on being reliably available.
That's fair enough but even if we use availability Silva is there.

He was one of the best for sure and I would hate if he rediscovers his best self at United but those stats are heavily manipulated for the reason I stated above.

Mount was definitely the best performer over those 3 years, on that basis he has been the best player over the last 3 years. There have been more talented players in the team of course but Mount has been by far the most reliable in terms of fitness and performances.
2020 and 2021 that can defiently be argued (if we put availability into it then I would say three horse race between him, Silva and Edou) but from 2022 onwards Silva takes that mantle, in my opinion ofcourse.
 
He was one of the best for sure and I would hate if he rediscovers his best self at United but those stats are heavily manipulated for the reason I stated above.

I mean "manipulated" is a harsh word. I think you also underrated that constantly being there, staying fit and being picked by multiple managers actually contribute in his favour rather than as a reason that the numbers aren't as relevant as they might seem.
 
I think it's called "kidnap" if it's a person.
 
yeah we should definitely follow Chelsea's business practices..

I know you're being sarcastic, but we should look at what they're doing. The multi-club model, long contracts + lowish wages to retain value, tie ups with the Saudi investors -- all of these are really innovative. I expect these to either become standard practice or get killed due to regulation from UEFA.
 
That's fair enough but even if we use availability Silva is there.

He was one of the best for sure and I would hate if he rediscovers his best self at United but those stats are heavily manipulated for the reason I stated above.


2020 and 2021 that can defiently be argued (if we put availability into it then I would say three horse race between him, Silva and Edou) but from 2022 onwards Silva takes that mantle, in my opinion ofcourse.

Yeah for sure, 21 and 22 were his best years but I meant if we average it out over the last 3 years, Mount still shakes out as the best player during that period.
 
Glad to see I am not the only one thinking we need to sign Ampadu. He would be the perfect understudy for Case and they only want 12M.

That’s a good player. Hope he gets a good club. Would hate it if he joined a club just to sit on the bench.
 
I know you're being sarcastic, but we should look at what they're doing. The multi-club model, long contracts + lowish wages to retain value, tie ups with the Saudi investors -- all of these are really innovative. I expect these to either become standard practice or get killed due to regulation from UEFA.
:lol:
 
Helps when one of your main investors is a Saudi fund to be fair.
This is rubbish tbh. How many players did Saudi sign from them? Two? Koulibaly and mendy? Ziyech deal didn't go through. And it's not like Saudi are buying only chelsea players.
This nonsense talks of Saudi helping them to offload deadwoods has to stop really.
 
Now he would be an excellent signing, sort out the defence for a good few years as he learns under Varane Martinez and Lindelof...

We should put a £30m bid for him to test the water and see the effect.

Considering that Brighton have already had a £40m bid shot down instantaneously and it's unlikely he'll be angling for a move to you lot when he's a childhood Liverpool fan and has a less clear path to the first team than he does with us currently, I'd wager you wouldn't be able to see any effect whatsoever.
 
The only players I’d want are Colwell and Enzo. Everyone is bang average.
 
Malo Gusto would be walking into our first team. Enzo would clearly be pigeon holed in too.

Shows how many people Chelsea have signed that I genuinely had to look up someone who apparently would walk into the United first team.
 
Shows how many people Chelsea have signed that I genuinely had to look up someone who apparently would walk into the United first team.
It's a complete famine out there for high quality right backs and Gusto, a guy who has just turned 20 is already performing at an elite level in a top five league. Is going to be so good if injuries keep at bay and was the guy I had been hoping we signed before he signed on for Chelsea last year.
 
Even if you actually rate the people they've signed, they came 12th last year and have replaced over half their team. How on earth does anyone think that is going to be successful immediately.
 
It's a complete famine out there for high quality right backs and Gusto, a guy who has just turned 20 is already performing at an elite level in a top five league. Is going to be so good if injuries keep at bay and was the guy I had been hoping we signed before he signed on for Chelsea last year.
It's more a top four. France is more like a Tier 2 League with Netherlands and Portugal.

He's not all that (yet anyway). Creates about as much going forward as AWB (ie. not too much) whilst being much weaker defensively.
 
It's more a top four. France is more like a Tier 2 League with Netherlands and Portugal.

He's not all that (yet anyway). Creates about as much going forward as AWB (ie. not too much) whilst being much weaker defensively.
Nah, France is a much more physical league than those other two and scouts generally consider it a good league for talent to translate into the EPL. Gusto is far better attacking than AWB and much younger. His expected assists are far higher than his actual assists and this is usually down to the centre forwards he's crossing to making a mess of their chances. He's an exceptional crosser and his defence seems to have come on a lot this season.
 
The only deal you tip your hat to them on is Havertz for 65m, but that has more to do with the buyer being deranged. Other than that, they’ve sold a bunch of players to one of their own investors - crooked as feck - and lost their best player and talisman to a rival for 55m.
 
The only deal you tip your hat to them on is Havertz for 65m, but that has more to do with the buyer being deranged. Other than that, they’ve sold a bunch of players to one of their own investors - crooked as feck - and lost their best player and talisman to a rival for 55m.

Sold 2 players to Saudi. Same number as Liverpool pretty soon. Combined fee of less than 30M. We’ve sold 2 players to Milan too and they were sniffing around a third player a while ago. We’ve sold players totally nearly 250M so far, with Lukaku and CHO likely taking that figure to 300M.
 
The only deal you tip your hat to them on is Havertz for 65m, but that has more to do with the buyer being deranged. Other than that, they’ve sold a bunch of players to one of their own investors - crooked as feck - and lost their best player and talisman to a rival for 55m.
They paid 65m for a literal Donkai. Chelsea got very lucky.
 
In July 2023, the only player in that team that is 'steal-worthy' is Reece James. He is the only world-class player remaining in the squad.
 
In July 2023, the only player in that team that is 'steal-worthy' is Reece James. He is the only world-class player remaining in the squad.
They've also been stockpiling some of the best youth talent in the world, guys like Kendry Paez, Andrey Santos and Cesare Casadei who have been the star players in the recent international youth tournaments they've been involved in, have other really good prospects in Datro Fofana, Madueke, Gusto, Nicolas Jackson. They've clearly overpaid for Mudryk but there's potential there and if there was one youngster in the league that you would bank on being world class in the future its Enzo Fernandes. James might be the only world class player now but give it two years and the complexion will be very different. Boehly is clearly insane but they've made some excellent acquisitions in addition to the turkeys and it looks like Saudi are going to help them wash away all the financial problems that were building up with those more foolish purchases.