Same was said about Yoro. You never know until you try but offloding players is impossible
We need a striker.
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Would you take Welbeck for 5 million on a 1+1 year contract?
Last season was only his 2nd ever full season, hopefully these are just bedding in pains and not a sign of how his body will cope with the physicality of the league. He's a young lad, but we're putting too much on his shoulders which will end up burning him out and we're going to be failing him if that happens..
Yes! Scores goals, works hard, seems a good lad, won't rock the boat, knows the league..
Alternative seems to be have no one else and run young players into the ground till they fail and their confidence gets knocked.
He wouldn’t score goals in this team.
Yes sure, if our aim is to finish top 10.
in a heartbeat
should never have been sold. Would have been a great squad option over the years
Because a proper strike as the OP pointed out would lead the line, create space for others, make runs and create his own chances. We really need a new Mark Hughes, god I miss the days of him playing for us.
Come off it, he was like Bambi on ice when we sold him, always slipping on his arse. He has improved over the years but he is no where near what we are looking for and good for him that he is enjoying life on the South coast with Brighton.
But a CF against Fulham wasn't needed if Bruno scored one of his 1-on-1's with the keeper, or if Garncho scored the open net. (The was an easy 3-0 if the current players just did the right thing)
Against Brighton the team didn't really create many chances so having a new CF up front wouldn't drastically change things imo.
Against Brighton the team didn't really create many chances so having a new CF up front wouldn't drastically change things imo.
Do you think Toney could do that for us?
I haven’t really seen enough of him to be honest but he’s available and he may be worth a punt, pun intended.
I just wish we could find a "veteran" to take on loan or on a short-term contract: it worked brilliantly with Zlatan (and for a while with Cavani). I did wonder if Vardy woulbe available if Leicester hadn't been promoted (not that I'm a huge fan but that's the sort of "veteran" I mean)
Only one left is probably Choupo-Moting
This is an odd one for me - I just can't make my mind up. One moment I think he'd be perfect, the next I think he might be a disaster! 1994 Mark Hughes would be nice!
Not seen enough of him to know.... how old is Ruud?
I'm fully on train until Friday at 11, however fear it's destination will be Saudi Arabia unfortunately
We'll never sign another striker knowing that we have both Hojlund and Zirkzee.
Imagine if we buy Toney and he flourishes as a 9, you play Rasmus only 10mins here and there ? And what about Zirkzee ? You play him off the striker ? But what do you do then with Bruno and Mount?
Unfortunately it will not happen.
Imagine if we buy Toney and he flourishes as a 9, you play Rasmus only 10mins here and there ? And what about Zirkzee ? You play him off the striker ? But what do you do then with Bruno and Mount?
Unfortunately it will not happen.
Should never have bought Mount in the first place, also don't understand prioritising Zirkzee (luxury forward) over Toney (essential) this summer
The option is a new manager.
Clearly he doesnt want a goalscoring striker first and foremost. He wants pressing first and foremost and goals and creativity second.
This manager has spent over £98 million (including Zirkzee's eventual fee over several years) on strikers : Hojlund and Zirkzee. These are the types of strikers he wants and will pick, and if not them its Bruno and Mount pressing from the front. He isnt going to suddenly want and pick a striker who is a goal poacher.
Probably the fee.
Zirkzee was "only" 42M paid in three, when Toney could have been 60M and may have stopped Holjdund's development.
Rasmus and Joshua are not really in the same position, but Toney here would have hammered more Rasmus IMO.
And for Mount, I suppose the fact that he was available, English and brings cover to Bruno was a good idea for the board...
100% would do this but doubt Brighton would entertain it at this stage.
I just don't buy into he stops Rasmus development, the fact that Whitwell on podcast at least still references wanting a striker gives me feint hope.
Unfortunately it would probably need us to sell Sancho before the window closes, strong noises are we will get a loan deal for him at best
I would argue that what we actually need is:
1. Wingers who can pass, cross and beat a man.
2. A competent manager who can implement tactics so that our current strikers are getting chances.
1. Wingers who can pass, cross and beat a man.
2. A competent manager who can implement tactics so that our current strikers are getting chances.
I suppose, and this is my opinion, that a number 9 needs confidence and needs to play.
If Toney comes (and I would like) he would play ahead of Hojlund and won't bring the best of Hojlund.
Maybe the initial mistake was to buy Hojlund last year, when we should have bought another one the year before, but you know, with our past leaders we only have bad decision to live with
What winger would you like to see signed realistically
ETH's legacy at United is likely going to be his terrible decisions in the transfer market, and they're going to haunt us for years to come.
Yeah we are still paying for their decisions, come on INEOS sign a striker to take pressure off
what a strange take on a player who has been quite a dependable squad striker for Brighton. A player who Fergie trusted in big CL games at the expense of Rooney.
for a club who kept players like Martial on bumper contracts and brought in loan players like Ighalo/Weghorst we'd have clearly better off with a Welbeck in the squad.
Realistically at this stage nobody springs to mind that we can afford. Doesn't mean we don't need one though.
He was not very good when at Utd, he was still developing and yes he was just like Bambi.
Arsen Wenger was away when Arsenal signed him, Wenger famously said if he had been in England then Wellbeck would have been taken on loan.
As for now it would be a massive setback, we as a club should be looking to buy players who could get us challenging for the title, Wellbeck would not do that.
we are miles from challenging for a title
financials mean we can't sign an elite striker until next Summer at the earliest.
No one would say that Welbeck will have us challenging for a title.
He would be a good squad option though for a team who's only number 9, Hojlund, is regularly injured and relatively inexperienced
United should have signed Jarrod Bowen a while back.
What’s all this shit about United and the barcodes looking at Calvert - Lewin?
It better be shit and if not then the barcodes better out bid us, we have enough in the treatment room as it is and when he is fit he does bugger all.
And the same shit about Sterling, he’s better than Sancho but haven’t we got enough in midfield now? We need a proper proven number 9, not a bloody apprentice and not another wide player.
It better be shit and if not then the barcodes better out bid us, we have enough in the treatment room as it is and when he is fit he does bugger all.
And the same shit about Sterling, he’s better than Sancho but haven’t we got enough in midfield now? We need a proper proven number 9, not a bloody apprentice and not another wide player.
We do need reliable goals in the squad, all across the attack. None of our options in the front 3 have "enough" goals in them for us to score the 75-80 goals needed to secure top 4 and much less the 90-100 we need to compete for the league. If we do score 80 goals in the PL this season without a star signing up top I'll gladly eat humblepie in May.
Would prefer an experienced striker over Sterling.
Didn’t stop us buying Yorke/Sheringham when we had Cole/Ole (can’t remember which order they came in but, still) That was chiefly for rotation but now players drop out injured all the time and need a break/adjust formation. Two existing players who are yet to prove themselves are no way enough
Hard to compare back then to now. Much greater pool of strikers, more settled squad elsewhere, world class manager who excelled in handling squad rotation and guaranteed to be playing 2 strikers every game. 3 or the 4 attackers in 99 were guaranteed minutes every game.
Excellent post, Fergie said he wanted four strikers Gill obliged and the rest is history.
I still don't feel like I know how good Hojlund is.
On one hand, he did well last season with absolutely no service. He generally plays in between two greedy wingers who run like headless chickens and play like school-children. He created chances on his own and then scored those chances on a number of occasions.
On the other hand, I'm still not entirely sold. I don't get this feeling that we should be building around him and not signing another striker incase it hinders his development. I don't feel very confident that he's a world class talent in the making.
All that to say, I believe we do need a striker. It doesn't have to be Osimhen or anyone of that stature, but there's something to be said for a Toney or Calvert-Lewin to help carry the load.
On one hand, he did well last season with absolutely no service. He generally plays in between two greedy wingers who run like headless chickens and play like school-children. He created chances on his own and then scored those chances on a number of occasions.
On the other hand, I'm still not entirely sold. I don't get this feeling that we should be building around him and not signing another striker incase it hinders his development. I don't feel very confident that he's a world class talent in the making.
All that to say, I believe we do need a striker. It doesn't have to be Osimhen or anyone of that stature, but there's something to be said for a Toney or Calvert-Lewin to help carry the load.