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Rooney said:
That's like Dylan saying his recent albums are better than what he did in the 60s.
If Mourinho lacks the balls to do what needs to be done, he will end up like his predecessors.
2018 World Cup:
England are set to adopt a unique 2-4-3-2 system with Rooney playing as a second goalkeeper who "can do everything but use his hands". Rooney started in attack 14 years ago and has been moved around to accommodate better players since. After playing as a third centre back for qualifiers he now finds himself in the unique position where there are better players than him in every single position.
His new role, which is designed to make use of his best abilities, will make it much easier for him to make a gut busting run to left back before fulfilling his inspirational role as captain by pointing, spitting bile and reminding someone that "that was their fecking job".
When asked about the role Wayne said he was most excited about taking the goal kicks: "ehhhm well there's this drill we've been practicing in training where I use the goal kick to float it diagonally to Milner on the right wing....".
England are set to adopt a unique 2-4-3-2 system with Rooney playing as a second goalkeeper who "can do everything but use his hands". Rooney started in attack 14 years ago and has been moved around to accommodate better players since. After playing as a third centre back for qualifiers he now finds himself in the unique position where there are better players than him in every single position.
His new role, which is designed to make use of his best abilities, will make it much easier for him to make a gut busting run to left back before fulfilling his inspirational role as captain by pointing, spitting bile and reminding someone that "that was their fecking job".
When asked about the role Wayne said he was most excited about taking the goal kicks: "ehhhm well there's this drill we've been practicing in training where I use the goal kick to float it diagonally to Milner on the right wing....".
Where do we think he will play positionally this season coming?
Lots think as the Attacking mid role, similar to how Mourinho played Lampard or Sneijder. Personally, I think he is a typical Mourinho striker.
Lots think as the Attacking mid role, similar to how Mourinho played Lampard or Sneijder. Personally, I think he is a typical Mourinho striker.
You forgot to include " obviously" otherwise good
How is he a typical Mourinho striker? Mourinho loves his strikers playing on the edge of the defensive line. His strikers always have immense power and pace and he doesn't mind them not seeing the ball as long as their stretching defenses.
Self-satisfied, precious about criticism, unwilling to do the work required to truly hone his game, and coasting towards retirement.
And we are helping him along the way. Pretty sure England will dump him before we do.
Well I would say Rooney is a powerful player capable of stretching a defense and is capable of off the ball duties. Which can then free up space for the quicker players around him
I take it you see him in Mourinho's attacking mid role then
Either that or midfield. Pretty confident he's not going to be a striker.
Now looking back it's quite obvious Summer of 2013 was the best opportunity to move him on. Chelsea were willing to offer 30 million and we still had Kagawa, RvP, Hernandez and Welbeck with us.
I've read others players' performance thread and in most of them, posters here believe that LVG had somehow made them worse than they really are. Why does Rooney don't get the same leeway is just something that I dont understand.
Performance wise, though the 1st part of the season he was bad, as most of our players. I think most of us can agree that since the starts of 2016, he was one of our better players. Hope he can build on that and I truly believe that if he don't perform, Mourinho will bench him.
Performance wise, though the 1st part of the season he was bad, as most of our players. I think most of us can agree that since the starts of 2016, he was one of our better players. Hope he can build on that and I truly believe that if he don't perform, Mourinho will bench him.
Jose likes strikers who go an entire calendar year scoring less than 5 goals and could conceivably do it again?
No, he wasn't. He was our worst player, and one of the worst in the league. He was ridiculously bad.
And he still had the privileges neither of our player have or had before.
I agree he was given ridiculous privileges at the start of the season and that is LVG's fault. If I remember correctly, he was dropped at the end of last year in Stoke game and consequently he performed better after that. So, maybe he felt too comfortable with his position in the team, and that is again LVG's fault, which will not be the case with Mourinho.
Huge game for him tonight. The next couple of weeks could well define the perception surrounding this move to midfield and whether or not the press will get on board.
His pass out wide to the right will make for a cracking drinking game, at the very least.
His pass out wide to the right will make for a cracking drinking game, at the very least.
If he has a stinker of a tournament, he's would be under tremendous pressure going into the new season. Every Tom, Dick and Harry will be saying, he's finished.
He might have a good tournament - he can, given his ability, shine against the lesser teams, and may raise his game in eye-catching fixtures against better teams.
I reckon there's not half as much pressure on Rooney's back as in past tournaments. That might just benefit himself and England.
Kagawa was probably going to be moved on under SAF anyway, RVP had just come off a rare injury free season so the odds of repeating that were low, Welbeck is shite and Hernandez wasn't as good for us near the end as he was when he joined. He was never going to be relied on.
...F365 said:
I don't for one second believe that, what makes you think SAF would have sold him just after one season where wasn't even that bad just very inconsistent.
Also i think no top club in Europe would have offered Rooney a new 300k a week contract for five fecking years when his decline was inevitable in his late twenties. Any competent board would have taken the 30 millions offered from Chelsea and give the whole sum to the manager to replace him.
3 months into the season, City top of the table and we draw or lose to some shit team and questions start being asked and the pressure starts building...JM will be throwing players under the bus, under the bench, into the stands....I jest but I don't think JM will not indulge Rooney too long. Rooney's own father wouldn't have persisted with Rooney as much as LVG. It was just bizzare and inexplicable and weird like a lot of other things he did here
That right there is Moyes' legacy.
The truth.
100%.
Ferguson put it on a plate so Moyes could have culled him without looking like the bad guy - he had other ideas though.
"Nice to hear your own fans booing ya.."
To be honest that moment in South Africa sums up the bad side of Rooney. Entitled to play, to high pay and platitudes because believes in his innate 'talent', regardless of the shite he serves up on the pitch and narrow-minded towards any opinion to the contrary.
Even when he's shite, he expects privileges, platitudes and to freedom to criticise anyone around him so long as it's not himself.
Wayne Rooney has never been the type of player you give freedom to. He has always excelled massively when he's had a strong manager and a disciplined role handed to him that intuitively made it clear he was a cog in the machine.
This move back to midfield is sad. It's really sad England are having to put with this like we are.
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Hoping he has a good tournament, thus making a few people look a bit silly. And it's certainly not beyond him to do that.
But some of you are clearly f*cking desperate for him to do badly, and i'm sure he'll get slated regardless of how he plays.
But some of you are clearly f*cking desperate for him to do badly, and i'm sure he'll get slated regardless of how he plays.
Managers keep on picking him. They can't all be wrong.
Managers keep picking him since when? Ferguson and Capello are the only recent managers that have any credibility and the former was ready to boot him out. The latter had him last in 2010 when he was genuinely one of the best players in Europe.
You think I care what Hodgson, Moyes and crazy LVG think? Hodgson especially is fecking moron.
Capello picked him whenever he was fit, and in Fergies last season, Rooney played 40 games.
I've a hunch Mourinho will play him regularly as well, probably because he isn't half as bad as some of you make out.
With the career he's had I hope so. In reality I think it'll be the opposite. I'm with those who think he's done physically and tournament football will expose this. Everybody brings their A game which is bad news for a guy who needs time on the ball.
Have a read of this pre-Van Gaal thread, on how Rooney and Van Gaal would get along: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/rooney-vs-van-gaal.391019/
Predictably, the usual suspects were convinced that Rooney was in for a rude awakening under Van Gaal. Dropped, sold, etc. How'd that one turn out for you?
I see the same wishful thinking here.
Predictably, the usual suspects were convinced that Rooney was in for a rude awakening under Van Gaal. Dropped, sold, etc. How'd that one turn out for you?
I see the same wishful thinking here.
Fergie put the wheels in motion for Moyes to move him on. The clown instead completely missed this very obvious lead and signed him on for life.
What is even more sad is that, Englsnd will see the light before we do.
And where is Van a Gaal today?
No one was arguing about Rooney being dropped in 2010.
Why do you think there is a discussion in the press about he's position in the team?
You think we are picking on him because of some hate?
His performances don't command his status in the team. Simple as that.
From around 550 of your posts I can see since you have been promoted, 442 have "Rooney" in it. Always had you bit obsessed about him, but never realised that's all you post about.
And btw you said it yourself he should have been dropped long time ago.
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