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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 37
- Goals
- 14
- Assists
- 6
- Yellow cards
- 4
- Red cards
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fully deserved...and he should be England captain.
Looking at those stats, Vidal should get the nod next season.
So on the outside you were being a TopRed but on the inside you secretly wanted him to get it?
This has nothing with being a 'TopRed' or whatever the hell that means. As a personality I don't really like the guy but his qualities on the pitch, I have a different view.
Oh how I love stats
If you want to know who's a better bet at scoring a penalty, stats don't get more black and white than that.
I'm not sure they're accurate, mind you. I'm sure Rooney missed more than 4 penalties.
A very poor performance from Rooney. The likes of Hernandez, Mata and Kagawa were largely invisible but Wayne was simply awful throughout. Poor freekick, long passes that failed to find their target, penalty against the post, wasted good opportunity with a shot over the bar, another chance disappeared due to a poor first touch. If he performs like that on Saturday, I hope LVG has the courage to substitute him after 60 mins.
Great to have him as captain. Pretty sure he will thrive in this role.
The usual 'Other plays were bad, but i'll single out Wayne for the harshest criticism anyway' post you get whenever he has a less than stellar game.
Saw it constantly over the course of last season, and right through the world cup (where he didn't even play that badly).
Sadly, now that he's captain, it'll likely be even worse this season. Every mistake jumped on and magnified tenfold, while other players get away with the same and worse.
He's been utter shite in every tournament bar one. Good against the likes of Moldova and Poland in qualifiers which fills up his record.
Most of the squad is terrible when they wear an England shirt though.
Like Pogue said, whatever your opinion on the validity of stats this is fairly clear cut, Rooney has a significantly better penalty record than RVP in the past four years. If you're laughing at that you might as well laugh at people who quote the number of goals a player has scored to justify how prolific they are, that's a stat too.
Oh how I love stats
I'm happy with the decision to be honest. Ruling out his questionable behavior in the past, he's always given it his all on the pitch for us since the day he arrived as a teenager. More importantly, he's a top player, a winner and a respected figure for it.
If it paints Rooney in an even vaguely positive light, then it must be invalid, irrelevant, or laughable. Because Rooney has no redeeming features at all, as a footballer or as a man.
#Haterlogic
Right, sorry about that. I'm going to blame Pogue Mahone for making me assume you were disagreeing with me although I did almost do the same thing to Walters reply until he added text to the laughing smiley he posted.I'm agreeing with Conrad you plonkers
Wasn't utter shite, at all, during the last WC. So basically, he's been utter shite at two WCs and a Euro, so 3 out of 5 international tournaments. Which isn't great, but probably isn't any worse than a lot of high profile England players bar Beckham and A. Cole. And this is considering he's played in some of those where he was very clearly unfit/injured and shouldn't have been there.
The qualifiers are actually pretty tough matches, usually very competitive, and he's been a consistent performer in those types of games on a very regular basis. Just ignoring them and pretending that the only measure of a player's international career should be the tournaments is frankly silly.
I agree he's been no worse than most English players. He gets more stick because he's our star man yet just as poor as the rest of them in tournaments.
Of course he's going to have his international career judged on tournaments. That's where it really matters, where it is crunch time. Yes the qualifiers are very competitive but if you can't do it on the big stage you won't be rated for your country.
If anything his 40 goals in 90 appearances for England is made all the more impressive by the tournament performances throughout his career demonstrating how poor the team he plays for actually is. They're good enough to - just about - qualify more often than not but well below the quality required to do well (and score a lot of goals) when the tournament itself comes around.
Man Utd 1:2 Swansea
Someone please have a fecking word with him about always looking to pass wide.
Its his default mindset whenever he receives the ball in the central positions. And it annoys the feck out of me. Atleast twice today done it.
Its his default mindset whenever he receives the ball in the central positions. And it annoys the feck out of me. Atleast twice today done it.
I counted 4 times he gave the ball away by doing it. Not good enough in general today. Got a goal but he either took too long or he made the wrong pass.
Showed desire and a nice strikers goal.
Some shoddy under hit passes as bad as fletcher's but he was let down by others today, the service into him was not good enough.
Hernandez and Mata were also dire giving him little support.
Some shoddy under hit passes as bad as fletcher's but he was let down by others today, the service into him was not good enough.
Hernandez and Mata were also dire giving him little support.
Not his best performance today. Bagged a good goal, but was pretty sloppy in possession (not the only one) and under hit a few passes today. I expect better next game.
Usual Rooney really, lots of drive and work, nice goal, and repeated passes to the wing
Bit awkward for Van Gaal when he names a captain who has a bad first touch and a weak short passing game. Rooney will frustrate Van Gaal this season, i wouldn't be surprised if they end up falling out.
Didn't like how he was having a go at everyone today when his own allround game was piss poor.
Didn't like how he was having a go at everyone today when his own allround game was piss poor.
To be fair if he's playing as a striker this season (as opposed to a #10) then his weaknesses are much more acceptable as long as he's getting goals.
Should be main striker even when playing with rvp. He doesn't need to spread the play anymore. Mata can do that.
I want rooney to stay in the box. His finishing is lethal and heading excellent for a short guy. I want to see him score headers like 2010.
I want rooney to stay in the box. His finishing is lethal and heading excellent for a short guy. I want to see him score headers like 2010.
FFS! More like you're hoping that happens.
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He's captain now. Everything he does wrong will be scrutinised more than ever. He has to lead by example.
For what it's worth I think he's looked great since returning from England duty. We all know he's lost that burst of pace and he's had his moments of being a bit of a cnut but putting that all in the past, I rate his chances of having a decent season very highly. Not the worst start for him on a personal level but not winning will hit him and everyone hard.
Typical Rooney performance. Plays relatively poor, but scores a goal.
Thought he was crap today. Scored a nice goal and was unfortunate not to have another with that freekick, though.
But he needs to do better, there were 3-4 good attacking situations in the second half that were ruined because he couldn't make a simple pass.
But he needs to do better, there were 3-4 good attacking situations in the second half that were ruined because he couldn't make a simple pass.
Yep.
Rooney's a very good footballer with a very good attitude on the pitch, but I wish he'd get to the next level where he gets rid of the headless chicken bit and the sloppyness. There are times when he underhits passes that a player of his level really really shouldn't. That bit of precision should be part of his game by now.
I thought he wasn't very good during preseason games and pretty poor today, but he scores a lot of goals so I don't have a problem with that. He has to stay up top though, so that his contribution to build up play is limited. He breaks a lot of moves. Would be much better if we played Januzaj beside him, not Hernandez.
Was absolutely dismal with some of his short passes. Some consider him to be a good passer but he is only good at pinging the ball out wide sporadically. There is not enough penetration in most of his passes and his first touch leaves a lot to be desired at times. That was one of the prime reasons why he wasn't a great playmaker at a No 10 role. There were plenty of promising attacking moves that frustratingly broke down at his feet at an alarming rate in the recent past. He is like the ultimate highlights player for some time now. Doesn't necessarily impact the game consistently enough but pops up with an assist or a goal every other game.
He grabbed a good goal and could have gotten another with a freekick that hit the bar. However, his general play has not been consistent enough and I think it might not have been the wisest decision to give him the armband. However, we don't exactly have any other suitable candidates so its understandable but I feel the armband could potentially affect him negatively. I would rather have the Rooney of old who consistently made his mark on the game for 90 mins but was inconsistent when it came to goals/assists and rather scored in sprees. I still do think he will be much better when RVP/Welbeck returns though and Hernandez's poor performance didn't help him one bit today.
He grabbed a good goal and could have gotten another with a freekick that hit the bar. However, his general play has not been consistent enough and I think it might not have been the wisest decision to give him the armband. However, we don't exactly have any other suitable candidates so its understandable but I feel the armband could potentially affect him negatively. I would rather have the Rooney of old who consistently made his mark on the game for 90 mins but was inconsistent when it came to goals/assists and rather scored in sprees. I still do think he will be much better when RVP/Welbeck returns though and Hernandez's poor performance didn't help him one bit today.
He can't do any good to you lot can he, Mata and Hernandex had far worse games than he did.
Ah, that's alright then.
He didn't have a great game, but scored and almost got a second.
Still mature of him he admits that he had a poor game:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ut-insists-he-is-right-choice-as-captain.html
Still mature of him he admits that he had a poor game:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ut-insists-he-is-right-choice-as-captain.html
Wasn't his best game but the loss was far from his fault. He was trying a bit too hard and it's now clear why LvG told him to "let it fly". When he tries too hard he tries to be everything and everywhere at once; defender, winger, midfielder striker etc.. and he can end up being a bit like a bull in a china shop but it wasn't for a lack of trying and I think he will be fine once we win a few and the newness of the captaincy wears off. I don't think he deserves too much criticism. Several of passes were a bit off but that sharpness will come back and he will be fine.
He was poor. If we expect him to lead by example, it's going to be a difficult season. Because he's now captain, his inconsistency and fluctuations between crap and great will be a permanent fixture. No dropping or subbing him during his crap periods. At least he's admitting he was crap but, as captain, he has to set an example with his play.
Poor in general play and a well-taken goal only salvages a 6/10 in my opinion.
Agree with the above post about his fluctuation in performance which will irritate the shit out of van Gaal over time. He can either be a talismanic figure who is excellent, or he can barely do the basics like trapping a ball or returning a simple 5 yard one-two with a teammate. Pretty infuriating that the latter was the cause of a breakdown in attacking moves about half a dozen times against Swansea.
At the very least, he is incredibly effective whether that's scoring or assisting. He may not be as creative as the best #10's or as proficient in front of goal as the best #9's but he stacks up very good figures over the course of the season in both regards at the very least. However, I still question him as a captain in spite of his determination and winners mentality, as he isn't as vocal and inspiring to teammates as he should be and I don't think he looked like the leader we needed to get us back into the game against Swansea.
Agree with the above post about his fluctuation in performance which will irritate the shit out of van Gaal over time. He can either be a talismanic figure who is excellent, or he can barely do the basics like trapping a ball or returning a simple 5 yard one-two with a teammate. Pretty infuriating that the latter was the cause of a breakdown in attacking moves about half a dozen times against Swansea.
At the very least, he is incredibly effective whether that's scoring or assisting. He may not be as creative as the best #10's or as proficient in front of goal as the best #9's but he stacks up very good figures over the course of the season in both regards at the very least. However, I still question him as a captain in spite of his determination and winners mentality, as he isn't as vocal and inspiring to teammates as he should be and I don't think he looked like the leader we needed to get us back into the game against Swansea.
He scored though, I mean - what else can he do in that regard? Playing a bit crap and scoring is better than playing a bit crap and not scoring.
I've seen a few complaints about how he was dropping back too much and occupying Mata's zones, its a concern because when that happens, Mata needs to be in Rooney's position making forward runs.
That is hard when the defense playing a high line but in my opinion Mata looked very lethargic and out of sorts vs Swansea.
That is hard when the defense playing a high line but in my opinion Mata looked very lethargic and out of sorts vs Swansea.
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